two unmarried people living...

[* kittie *]

together.  what do you guys think?  is it right or wrong...and why?  should i worry about my brother, or am i worrying too much.

 

[LightBearer]

For many “living in sin” is no longer a sin? God tells us in no uncertain terms how he feels about such conduct. His Word, the Bible, states: “Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge fornicators and adulterers.” (Hebrews 13:4) Sex before marriage may not be a sin in the view of liberal clergymen and churchgoers, but it is a serious sin in God’s eyes! God requires that we refrain from such practices, which he views as unclean.

Scriptural standards are very strict. The only place for sexual intimacy is within marriage, and all such intimacy outside marriage is forbidden. We read: “Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom.” (1 Corinthians 6:9, 10) Moreover, for Christians the Bible requires monogamy, one husband for one wife. (1 Timothy 3:2) And while there are extreme cases where divorce or separation might be allowed, the Bible says that in general the marriage bond is for life. Jesus himself said: “He who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’ . . . So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.”—Matthew 19:4-6, 9; 1 Corinthians 7:12-16.

Today, these standards are widely ignored. Loose sexual practices are tolerated. Sexual relations between dating teenagers are viewed as normal. Living together without the benefit of marriage is accepted. Among married couples, illicit sexual affairs by either partner are not uncommon. And divorce is pandemic in this modern world. These relaxed standards, however, have not brought happiness. The bad results have proved that the Bible was right after all in insisting on strict moral standards.

 

[Kristine]

there is also another scenario which is where a couple lives together, but keeps seperate beds and bedrooms.  (A dating couple living like roomates.)

Do you see that situation any differently?

 

[Havoc]

What your God "tells" you is really only relevant to anyone who believes in him.

In most cases co-habitation is marriage for all intents and purposes under the law. And the living arrangements of consenting adults are no ones business but their own.

 

[Havoc]

Originally posted by LightBearer
For many “living in sin” is no longer a sin? God tells us in no uncertain terms how he feels about such conduct. His Word, the Bible, states: “Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge fornicators and adulterers.” (Hebrews 13:4) Sex before marriage may not be a sin in the view of liberal clergymen and churchgoers, but it is a serious sin in God’s eyes! God requires that we refrain from such practices, which he views as unclean.

Scriptural standards are very strict. The only place for sexual intimacy is within marriage, and all such intimacy outside marriage is forbidden. We read: “Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom.” (1 Corinthians 6:9, 10) Moreover, for Christians the Bible requires monogamy, one husband for one wife. (1 Timothy 3:2) And while there are extreme cases where divorce or separation might be allowed, the Bible says that in general the marriage bond is for life. Jesus himself said: “He who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’ . . . So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.”—Matthew 19:4-6, 9; 1 Corinthians 7:12-16.

Today, these standards are widely ignored. Loose sexual practices are tolerated. Sexual relations between dating teenagers are viewed as normal. Living together without the benefit of marriage is accepted. Among married couples, illicit sexual affairs by either partner are not uncommon. And divorce is pandemic in this modern world. These relaxed standards, however, have not brought happiness. The bad results have proved that the Bible was right after all in insisting on strict moral standards.

 

Interesting that these strict standards have not resulted in a greater number of successful marriages among Fundamentalist Christians.

 

[* kittie *]

they are not in a sexual relationship...i need another reply please

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by Kristine
there is also another scenario which is where a couple lives together, but keeps seperate beds and bedrooms.  (A dating couple living like roomates.)

Do you see that situation any differently?

I do Kristine,

Many of us lived that way in the military (low pay, high rent), so we all shared a condo.

I'll give you a current situation as well...men and women serving together in the military, sharing the same barracks, foxholes, tanks, naval ships...etc.

No difference is there?  Simply sharing the same living quarters does not constitute a sin.

 

[Daniella]

i dont know.. if he is going to give in why should you worry? i mean i understand he is ya brother in all .. but it is his choice.. and why is it a sin to live together unmarried? if there not sleeping together whats the big prob?

 

[Smilin]

Zactly...no big problem. Many people have mutliple roommates (male and female) to share the living costs.

And falling asleep in a bed with a member of the opposite sex is not a sin daniella...lol

 

[Daniella]

Originally posted by Smilin
Zactly...no big problem. Many people have mutliple roommates (male and female) to share the living costs.

And falling asleep in a bed with a member of the opposite sex is not a sin daniella...lol

 

how about the member of the same sex

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by Daniella
 

how about the member of the same sex

LOL...Did it THOUSANDS of times when I was in the miliatry.  Just the way it is. 200 of us slept in an equivalent space of your average dining room...for almost a year one time.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

I don't understand. blueiverson, are they (your brother and whoever he is living with) in any kind of relationship?

 

[* kittie *]

i never said it was a sin. i was just asking...
they don't share living costs. my brother pays half, and i pay the other pay. she doesn't pay...

 

[* kittie *]

yeah...they're boyfriend and girlfriend.

 

[Rising_Suns]

Why do you pay for her half?

 

[* kittie *]

that's what i'm wondering too. but i guess i shouldn't have a bad attitude about it, cuz God has provided for me...
uhh...need to work on that.
but her parents live like 5 minutes away from me and my brother. i guess she just sleeps over at our apartment...and spends the day too...so she doesn't have to pay. ??? i don't know. lol

 

[Rising_Suns]

You are extremely generous to be doing so. Bless you.

So where is this concern about them coming from? Did you just want to see if it was "ok" scripturally?

 

[* kittie *]

yeah.
or is two unmarried couples living together just something people should avoid...because of the temptation involved. like it's not wrong, only if sex isn't involved.

 

[Rising_Suns]

Originally posted by blueiverson
yeah.
or is two unmarried couples living together just something people should avoid...because of the temptation involved. like it's not wrong, only if sex isn't involved.

I lived with my ex fiance for about 2 years, so maybe I can give you some advice here. 99 times out of 100, sex will be involved with 2 people who are dating and living together. Unless you're a virgin or have taken an oath of celibacy, the temptation is too strong...and even then, the temptation will still be great. It is definately something to avoid, no matter how serious they are. I have learned from my past mistakes, which is why I have retaken my oath of celibacy.

Are they both practicing Christians?

 

[* kittie *]

i know that my brother is...but i'm not exactly sure if she is.