Two Questions about Marriages and Courtships

[jay_swift]

College isn't a status symbol - its a requirement if you want to have a job with a company that doesn't require hard labor. There are people who are naturally talented or teach themselves something, but how would an employer know you had those skills? They don't have time to test a few hundred applicants. They just make sure you have an expensive piece of paper called a degree.

 

[plum]

<derail>jay, i wish that was always true. most of the time, emlpoyment also comes down to who you know and what experience you have in the field. in my field (media production) you could have dropped out of high school and still made it up in Hollywood as a camera operator or a production designer. </derail>

 

[Echoes Peak]

College isn't a status symbol - its a requirement if you want to have a job with a company that doesn't require hard labor. There are people who are naturally talented or teach themselves something, but how would an employer know you had those skills? They don't have time to test a few hundred applicants. They just make sure you have an expensive piece of paper called a degree.

I do not question that having a college degree gets many potential employers to look at you. I'm just merely commenting that, there a couple of cases where there are some individuals have had success without that piece of paper.

As for the skills thing, I think that's up for debate and depends upon what program your in. I know quite a few people have graduated from with college degrees, that were no more "brilliant" than they were when they got in., I

Okay, I'm derailing the thread....back to marriage and stuff

 

[Out of the Flames]

I do not question that having a college degree gets many potential employers to look at you. I'm just merely commenting that, there a couple of cases where there are some individuals have had success without that piece of paper.

As for the skills thing, I think that's up for debate and depends upon what program your in. I know quite a few people have graduated from with college degrees, that were no more "brilliant" than they were when they got in., I

Okay, I'm derailing the thread....back to marriage and stuff

I work for a Professional Employer Organization. Let me give you some insight on degrees vs. work experience. A lot of employers will say they want a Bachelor's degree for a position that they're hiring for when really, this is a ploy to weed out people who would be a waste of an interview. I do not have my BA yet, but I did have 4 years of payroll/HR experience which was what landed me the job over the people who DID have the degree. I see the same happen with our clients on a daily basis. Experience almost ALWAYS wins out over the degree because there is more to be said for practical application than for book education. That is why internships have become crucial to many a grad student looking to get a foot in the door.

 

[fishstix]

In my field, you have to have professional certification to legally practice (no, I'm not in law or medicine). In order to get that professional certification, you need to have a degree, and not just any degree either. They will not consider someone who does not have an appropriate degree, it is the requirement for starting on the certification process. In other words, you drop out of university, you go find some other career.

 

[Tenorvoice]

Howdy everyone. I recently read the book by Joshua Harris called "Boy Meets Girl" and he talked about how people shouldn't start courting/dating until they are ready to be married. First question: Do y'all agree with this? Should people wait until they are fully capable of getting married before they can begin courting someone?

Yes I belive that would help things out a lot!

But first think about the Second question: Do people need to have a job before they get married? What is your opinion of people getting married while still attending university?

Same answer here too YES, will save headaches in the future

I am concerned as to possibly such thing as "too long of a courtship" and I am wondering if problems do arise in couples who get married while still in university?

God Bless ,

Steffani

Same answer yet again...YES

JMO tho'

peace

 

[Out of the Flames]

In my field, you have to have professional certification to legally practice (no, I'm not in law or medicine). In order to get that professional certification, you need to have a degree, and not just any degree either. They will not consider someone who does not have an appropriate degree, it is the requirement for starting on the certification process. In other words, you drop out of university, you go find some other career.

Of course there are professions that do require such education. And if you are seeking one of them it would definitely be a wise idea to complete your schooling. But a great number of jobs do not require it. I could be a Certified Payroll Professional after the 24 hour required course and a 20 minute exam, but I do not need that course or exam to be well versed and well practiced in HR/Payroll/accounting. Again, practical application vs. education.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

Good post

I havent read Boy meets girl yet, but I did read I kissed dating goodbye. Overall I thought it was a good book, but there was some points that I thought were out of this world.
I think its a good idea to maybe hold off dating until you are serious about marriage, but at the same time, although they are all noew ex's (not that there are many) alot of my ex's have helped shaped me intop the woman I am today. I learned valuable lessons on what works and what dosent work in a relationship. I was also able to figure out what my "type"- if you'd say... is.

But I really do think Harris has some great points. But to answer some of youd questions (The ones I can remmeber anyways)... one was about marriage in college, and finances.
In my case. I am in a transitional period in my life right now. I was half way done my Double BA In History/Communications with a minor in theology, when this year I felt God calling me to take the winter semester off... which I did, and I realized that he was leading me elsewheres... so I made the chances and I now feel that I am on teh path that God wants me on. So, once again, I am starting a new degree. Its kinda furstratring cos I am going to be 21 and a freshman at a new university. Anyways... in my case, unless I dont plan on getting married for another 4 years (which I pray isnt the case) I will be in school. I really believe, even if whoever I marry is still in school (or not) and its Gods will for us to marry, he will provide for us. Now mind you, dont use that as justification to marry someone if you are both living off student loans or whatnot. But I truely believe if you are seeing the Lord, he will lead you down the path He wants you on, regarding your mate and being able to support eachohter.

Hummm... I hope that makes sence? If not, Iw ill try and explain myself better

 

[stormgade4]

One thing I noticed about Harris' second book; he seemed to imply everyone else lived in his little world where things went great. No doubt encouraging, but sometimes he seemed out of touch with reality. My singles ministry, especially the younger singles, has become fractured recently because of gossip.

I agree courtship is a great idea to strieve for. I even asked my former girlfriend's father if I could date his daughter. He was floored and then was very glad I asked him. I guess chivilry isn't quite dead.

 

[Echoes Peak]

I agree courtship is a great idea to strieve for. I even asked my former girlfriend's father if I could date his daughter. He was floored and then was very glad I asked him. I guess chivilry isn't quite dead.

How awesome is that .