Trump's wall could pay for itself in no time

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Any idea how much money it cost to process these ones?

Cost of the manpower to round them up?

Some will need medical attention food Etc?

M-Bob

More than 3,000 illegals caught in one day: DHS

I'm assuming we can manage to take care of 3000 people for less than 15 billion dollars.

Could you explain to me how this money would be saved even if we could magic up a wall right now? You'd still have to... you know.. round the people up who are here.
 
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I'm assuming we can manage to take care of 3000 people for less than 15 billion dollars.

Did you forget that Mountainbob was talking about government doing this? In NYS we paid 3/4 of a billion dollars for 350 jobs to be created in Buffalo. And Cuomo thinks that is a good deal and brags about it. People claim that Elon Musk is some sort of genius. He surely is a genius at convincing certain heads of governments to give him money for not much in return. I can't get that kind of deal from Cuomo? I can guarantee that I could do better than 350 jobs in return for $ 750,000,000 plus tax breaks going forward. That, despite the fact that I have never been an employer of any kind and am surely no genius. But job creating home grown businesses in NY are to be taxed fully in order to pay to import businesses from elsewhere that stop by for a cup of coffee collect their gifts from me and my fellow NY State taxpayers provided to them by Cuomo and leave as soon as the tax breaks expire.
 
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Any idea how much money it cost to process these ones?

Cost of the manpower to round them up?

Some will need medical attention food Etc?

M-Bob

More than 3,000 illegals caught in one day: DHS
That appears to include people who showed up at the border crossing seeking asylum.

Most undocumented immigrants did not enter the country by sneaking over the border. I can’t figure out why Trump doesn’t just promote jail time for employers who knowingly hire undocumented immigrants. Would make a huge difference.
 
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I'm assuming we can manage to take care of 3000 people for less than 15 billion dollars.

Could you explain to me how this money would be saved even if we could magic up a wall right now? You'd still have to... you know.. round the people up who are here.


I lost the math there?
We are talking 3,000 a day.

How many is that in a year?

We would expect it to rise greatly?

M-Bob
 
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That appears to include people who showed up at the border crossing seeking asylum.

It should be noted that at this time we let in approximately 1 million a year legally.

Needs to be a little filter correct?

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I can’t figure out why Trump doesn’t just promote jail time for employers who knowingly hire undocumented immigrants. Would make a huge difference.

He won't because he would have to serve time himself.
 
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How much does it cost to maintain a wall per thousand miles? Just roughly speaking?

{Pacific Rim}
It's not the wall per se, but the Jaegers.
{/Pacific Rim}

I lost the math there?

Actually you lost it in the thread title where you didn't understand what "pays for itself" means.
 
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He won't because he would have to serve time himself.

And lock up the rest of us that might have a butler or a cook or a maid.

I think my best friend and my neighbors and I are in trouble?

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Construction alone could run upwards of $70 Billion, not including land acquisition or $150 million/yr in ongoing maintenance costs.

Trump’s border wall would cost same as 1.5 aircraft carriers

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Southern Border Wall - HSGAC Minority Report.pdf

Border Patrol's budget, OTOH, is only about $13.5 Billion/yr:
U.S. Customs and Border Protection - Wikipedia

The wall would have to completely eliminate over 5 years' worth of Border Patrol labor in order to pay for itself.
 
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{Pacific Rim}
It's not the wall per se, but the Jaegers.
{/Pacific Rim}



Actually you lost it in the thread title where you didn't understand what "pays for itself" means.

Do the numbers do the numbers.

The big question what if those numbers double or triple in 5 years?

M-Bob
 
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That appears to include people who showed up at the border crossing seeking asylum.

Most undocumented immigrants did not enter the country by sneaking over the border. I can’t figure out why Trump doesn’t just promote jail time for employers who knowingly hire undocumented immigrants. Would make a huge difference.

You can't dog whistle about Mexicans if you go after business owners. Less votes
 
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Do the numbers do the numbers.

The big question what if those numbers double or triple in 5 years?

M-Bob
Can't do the numbers without numbers. How much does each illegal immigrant cost? And don't forget to subtract the revenue they generate - even if they're working entirely for cash, they still make purchases that are taxed. If they're using a false SSN or other tax ID to go through a payroll system, then they're also paying income and Social Security taxes.
 
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