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Trump's good and bad points.

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Mountainmanbob, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Mountainmanbob

    Mountainmanbob Goat Whisperer Supporter

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    Trump tweets too much.

    Good
    Excellent negotiator.
    Examples -- Mexico, China, No Korea, Canada and Europe. Iran coming soon.
    Love of Country and flag.
    Booming economy.
    Low unemployment.

    M-Bob

    What Are Donald Trump's Strengths And Weaknesses As A Leader?
    Vision

    No one could say that Trump lacks a vision – his vision is “America First.” What does that mean in practice? It means jobs for Americans, a smaller U.S. trade deficit, a crackdown on illegal immigration and the end of freeloading European nations achieving their military security at the expense of the US defense budget. Today, we’ve all got a pretty good idea of what President Trump’s vision is, which, in some ways, is testament to his strength in articulating it. Arguably, however, there are some notable flaws in the strategy that he is using to achieve his vision – in particular, the trade tariffs, which already appear to be having unintended consequences at home, and some wildly unpopular immigration policies that have damaged his standing abroad.
     
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  2. Mountainmanbob

    Mountainmanbob Goat Whisperer Supporter

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    If Trump would clean up his tweets a little his approval rating would probably jump to 65%.
    M-Bob
     
  3. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Trump's biggest mistake, imo, was not securing the border immediately upon being elected. If he had we wouldn't be having this debacle down there.
     
  4. Tom Farebrother

    Tom Farebrother Optimistic sceptic Supporter

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    Bit of errant pedantry for you M-Bob - title should be 'Trumps good points and one debatable bad point'.
     
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  5. Mountainmanbob

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    Guess that's all he has -- so far listed.
    M-Bob
     
  6. Tom Farebrother

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    :D ok. Good article though, as far as it goes.
     
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  7. Tom Farebrother

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    I don't want to get carried away here, but, it's difficult to trust someone who has had so many affairs, twice traded in a wife for a younger model, who stiffs contractors and workers, and doesn't pay his debts. His general attitude towards and behaviour around the Queen, and other dignitaries and world leaders, is pretty cringeworthy and very disrespectful. Being a bully just because you can isn't a great quality.

    As a leader he doesn't appear to give much thought to the consequences of his actions, and he shows a disturbing lack of empathy for others.

    That's me putting it very mildly.
     
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  8. Sparagmos

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    Trump is a horrible negotiator.
     
  9. Mountainmanbob

    Mountainmanbob Goat Whisperer Supporter

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    Trump said last night that, "we are one nation under God."

    Curious, how many democrats believe that?

    M-Bob
     
  10. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Curious ... who does Trump consider to be "we" ?

    Certainly not the four freshman Congresswomen he targeted ...
     
  11. grasping the after wind

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    Doubtful. Not only does Trump have many other bad points than just his tweets but even if he were a paragon of virtue, the most tolerant and the most inoffensive person on the planet those opposed to the policies he advances would still call him racist homophobic etc. It is what they do no matter who opposes them.
     
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  12. Tom Farebrother

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    And you worked that out with - what? Comparisons with parallel universes? On what basis are you suggesting the current political climate would be different if Trump wasn’t Trump?
     
  13. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    No need to work anything out. Just listening to the name calling going back decades. However, I believe I was suggesting that the political climate would be the same if Trump were not Trump.
     
  14. Jamsie

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    I think you would be quite wrong... if trump had any virtue or character, tended to the business of the country instead of childish name calling - tweeting - watching TV - golfing, ceased his incessant self promotion and feeding his insatiable ego, chose not to lie constantly, and conducted himself with some dignity, etc. then we might disagree on policy issues but one could at least consider it is what he believes is best for America. (However, "If wishes were horses beggars would ride")
     
  15. visionary

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  16. DZoolander

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    What are the effective differences between what we have with Canada/Mexico now vs. NAFTA before?
    What has been actually accomplished with North Korea?
    What has been accomplished with our European allies?
    What has been accomplished with China?
     
  17. visionary

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    Better trade deals than NAFTA for the US. Ongoing negotiations with North Korea, too early to tell, but at least they are talking, which didn't happen before. European allies are overrun with Muslims, which decrease the "allies" aspect as they are no longer the countries we use to know and associate with, so we will see how that goes. Just like the UN which has changed as more and more representatives in key positions are Muslims. China is also in the midst of negotiations so it is again too early to tell.

    The changing face of the world into a Muslim/Communist/socialism is all downhill for the people of this world. That is not good. Without Trump the speed of political change would have been detrimental for the US which would have turned it into Venezuela within a short period of time thus fulfilling the rise of the beast in end time prophecies.
     
  18. DZoolander

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    I’m curious. What are some specific things about the deals with Canada and Mexico that are better?
     
  19. tulc

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  20. Mountainmanbob

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    If you truly don't know you may be watching the wrong news channel?
    M-Bob
     
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