Trump's Golden Idol at CPAC

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The Statue of Liberty is different because it represents an idea, not a person. One could, I suppose, say the same for the Donald statue, which would explain why it's made of fake gold... which would certainly explain its popularity at CPAC.

The MLK and Lincoln statues are to memorize people after they are dead. While Donald will indeed one day go the way of all flesh, he does not yet qualify.

could it be viewed as a modern day bust?

Here's a bust of Napoleon. I heard it was sculpted while Napoleon was still alive.

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"Napoleon famously rejected Canova’s monumental portrayal of him as Mars because of the statue’s nudity. The bust Canova derived from it conversely became one of the emperor’s important official images."
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/239576
 
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What makes the Trump statue so uncomfortable is the accompanying "Trump is God's representative on earth!" rhetoric that tends to go hand in hand with, shall we say, enthusiastic appreciation for him.

Especially galling is the fact that some of the same folks who made a lot of hay out of needling liberals for supposedly worshiping Obama as "the one" back in the day are the same ones who unironically seem to consider Trump as a sort of right-wing pope.
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What makes the Trump statue so uncomfortable is the accompanying "Trump is God's representative on earth!" rhetoric that tends to go hand in hand with, shall we say, enthusiastic appreciation for him.

Especially galling is the fact that some of the same folks who made a lot of hay out of needling liberals for supposedly worshiping Obama as "the one" back in the day are the same ones who unironically seem to consider Trump as a sort of right-wing pope.
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Galling to you (as a Christian); amusing to me.

Especially when you consider that these are probably the very same folks who were up in arms about the "messianic" rhetoric surrounding Obama -- so secure in their belief that they themselves could never be so easily and thoroughly duped.

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What makes the Trump statue so uncomfortable is the accompanying "Trump is God's representative on earth!" rhetoric that tends to go hand in hand with, shall we say, enthusiastic appreciation for him.
Your eyes must be better than mine. Where on or near the statue in question is that wording found?

Especially galling is the fact that some of the same folks who made a lot of hay out of needling liberals for supposedly worshiping Obama as "the one" back in the day are the same ones who unironically seem to consider Trump as a sort of right-wing pope.
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That's interesting imagery, even though you seem to be the only one who is aware of anybody thinking Trump is some sort of right-wing pope. :rolleyes:
 
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Especially when you consider that these are probably the very same folks who were up in arms about the "messianic" rhetoric surrounding Obama -- so secure in their belief that they themselves could never be so easily and thoroughly duped.
But all of these alleged honors being directed at Trump are simply inventions of people who never liked him in the first place and enjoy speaking ill of him, whether what's said derisively has any basis in reality or not.

In the case of Obama, however, he WAS indeed referred to as a 'Messiah' by a very prominent Obama supporter.
 
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I'm not a Christian. When you consider every "God" to be false, it hardly matters which one is the current flavor-of-the-month.

I'll tell you one thing -- if the AntiChrist ever does show up and dupe the "false" Christians into following him, whatever scheme he comes up with, he's going to kick himself for overthinking it.
 
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In that regard only. But even so, innumerable leaders meet the test of being strongly liked by some of the population and strongly disliked by the rest. That's routine stuff. In just our own country's history, most of the presidents we've had fit that description.
 
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But all of these alleged honors being directed at Trump are simply inventions of people who never liked him in the first place and enjoy speaking ill of him, whether what's said derisively has any basis in reality or not.

People like Rick Perry?

Rick Perry Says That Trump Is God's “Chosen One”

Or Sarah Huckabee-Sanders?

Sarah Sanders says 'God wanted Trump to be president'

Or Wayne Allan Root?

Donald Trump: 'I am the chosen one' - Premier Christian News | Headlines, Breaking News, Comment & Analysis

Or these folks?

Trump was "chosen by God" says supporters
 
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In that regard only. But even so, innumerable leaders meet the test of being strongly liked by some of the population and strongly disliked by the rest. That's routine stuff. In just our own country's history, most of the presidents we've had fit that description.

True.
 
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In that regard only. But even so, innumerable leaders meet the test of being strongly liked by some of the population and strongly disliked by the rest.

This is true.

In your opinion, did Donald pass his test?
 
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People like Rick Perry?
Possibly, although some of those seem to have held different views of him at different times.

So, do you have a point? None of what you posted shows that any of the people you named worshipped Trump, considered Trump to be a Messiah or called him that, any "golden idols," or the rest of this sort of thing that's been posted in this thread.

I know by now that it's too much to hope that discussions of politics won't feature pure fiction for the sake of the shock value, but every so often I think it deserves to be mentioned.
 
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I'm not a Christian. When you consider every "God" to be false, it hardly matters which one is the current flavor-of-the-month.

I'll tell you one thing -- if the AntiChrist ever does show up and dupe the "false" Christians into following him, whatever scheme he comes up with, he's going to kick himself for overthinking it.

You probably were not one then either.

Third request. did you raise the issue when it was Barack being touted as a Messiah?

Evidently you find importance right now, did you find the importance then?

Not a hard question either you did or you did not.

Which is it? Can you please answer that?
 
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Possibly, although some of those seem to have held different views of him at different times.

So, do you have a point? None of what you posted shows that any of the people you named worshipped Trump, considered Trump to be a Messiah or called him that, or the rest of what's been posted in this thread.

Exactly my point. There is a difference between a selfie and worship.
 
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Ok, so virtually no one considered Obama an actual messiah.

And virtually no one considers Trump to be any of those ridiculous characterizations that have occupied most of the space in this thread. Not even those folks who got a kick out of posting them.
 
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