Trump: Vote For an Alleged Sexual Predator Because He’s Tough On Crime

[Sistrin]

We do agree that the Democrat in this race supports a woman's right to have an abortion.

I am curious. Have you ever in your life taken a class in Biology?

So, I guess my question then would be "why can't the people who don't support murdering babies put up a candidate who is not a child molester and all-around creep?"

Who are you accusing of being a child molester? And what information do you have which would serve to prove that allegation true?

In addition would you include people like, oh, say, John Conyers and Al Franken in your definition of "all-around creep?"

 

[GingerBeer]

The short answer is liberalism kills.

You mean like the Iraq war?

 

[Sistrin]

You mean like the Iraq war?

Wow. Talk about a programmed response.

Here is a list of Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the war in Iraq:

Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Breaux (D-LA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carnahan (D-MO) Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA) Clinton (D-NY) Daschle (D-SD) Dodd (D-CT) Dorgan (D-ND) Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC) Johnson (D-SD) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Miller (D-GA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Schumer (D-NY) Torricelli (D-NJ)

Note the Clinton represented on the list is Hillary Clinton. Of course most of these people eagerly voted in favor of the war and then spent the rest of their careers denying it.

 

[GingerBeer]

Wow. Talk about a programmed response.

And your response was all your own without any input from political party hacks?

 

[archer75]

I am curious. Have you ever in your life taken a class in Biology?



Who are you accusing of being a child molester? And what information do you have which would serve to prove that allegation true?

In addition would you include people like, oh, say, John Conyers and Al Franken in your definition of "all-around creep?"

I sure would!

 

[archer75]

The short answer is liberalism kills. Whenever liberal/progressive policy is enacted the death toll always goes up.

In addition modern Liberalism is permeated and defined by nothing more than and little less than Communists, Socialists and Dictators. Trump's election has clearly exposed that truth for all who have eyes to see. This truth can be ascertained by simply listening to anything Chuck Schumer or Elizabeth Warren have to say; but more than listen to what they say watch how they say it.

For one more reason at its most basic level liberalism is anti-God. Or perhaps it would be more accurate to state liberalism is anti-Christian, for liberals do worship a god, the god known of as The State. Think about it, why do you believe on election night last year millions of people were actually broken down in tears, crying and wailing over the fact Clinton had lost the election? Why one year later were these same people out screaming at the sky? The answer isn't as simple as their side losing the Presidential election, the answer is their god had been cast down. This truth also accounts for the immediate and continual effort by the American left to overturn the results of the legal and constitutional election of Donald Trump, because one liberals care nothing of the Constitution or the legalities enforced therein and two they are hellbent to avenge their god. A legal election, the Constitution, Democracy, all of that can be damned.

Then you have the absolute moral decrepitude inherent in liberalism and defined by the Democrat Party throughout history. Remember, if every accusation leveled against Roy Moore is true, the actions those accusations represent all occurred when Moore was a proud Democrat, a proud member of the Democrat party.

For these and at least fifty other reasons I could give, Trump is correct, we don't need another liberal in the Senate.

I agree with a good bit of what you say here. I don't agree with the implication that we don't need another "Liberal" but do need another child molester. It seems reasonable to me to understand that Moore is one. I have no "proof" more than what these women have said and his transparent response to it.

Even if they were all of age, which it seems they were not, it is still slimy behavior to use your public office for your own slimy purposes rather than to do your job. I saw enough of that with Clinton, thank you. This kind of behavior is pure trash and is beneath the dignity of the human race.

If Republicans can't find anyone more upstanding than Moore, they have no business running a candidate. And I'd say the same of the 1992 and 1996 Democrats.

 

[Sistrin]

And your response was all your own without any input from political party hacks?

Citing the actual voting history of the Senate at that time is hardly the work of political party hacks. Stop dodging the issue.

 

[Sistrin]

Even if they were all of age, which it seems they were not, it is still slimy behavior to use your public office for your own slimy purposes rather than to do your job.

Yeah, absolutely.

I stated in prior threads I thought Moore was politically finished, regardless of his actual guilt or innocence. I suppose that still remains to be seen. However I also stated there exist as yet no proof he is guilty as charged, because an accusation alone does not constitute proof, regardless of how loudly the left protest it does.

 

[GingerBeer]

The issue is that voting for an accused sex offender is not moral no matter how you cut it unless you are certain that the accusations are all false - all nine of them for Roy Moore and all 12 or more for Donald Trump. No one can say that they voted Christian Moral values after voting for those people.

 

[Sistrin]

The issue is that voting for an accused sex offender is not moral no matter how you cut it unless you are certain that the accusations are all false...

If that is the standard then no Conservative or Republican will ever be elected to any high office ever again, as all Democrats have to do is find someone to make an accusation and its over. You sure you want to live in that world?

 

[GingerBeer]

If that is the standard then no Conservative or Republican will ever be elected to any high office ever again, as all Democrats have to do is find someone to make an accusation and its over. You sure you want to live in that world?

And that would be a bad thing?

 

[Archivist]

I am curious. Have you ever in your life taken a class in Biology?

I have. But that has nothing to do with my statement that the Democrat candidate supports a woman’s right to have an abortion. That is a simple fact.

 

[GingerBeer]

I have. But that has nothing to do with my statement that the Democrat candidate supports a woman’s right to have an abortion. That is a simple fact.

Have you noticed that Republican dominated house, senate, and executive has never ended abortion.

 

[Archivist]

Have you noticed that Republican dominated house, senate, and executive has never ended abortion.

True. Nor has a GOP-dominated Supreme Court overruled Roe.

 

[GingerBeer]

True. Nor has a GOP-dominated Supreme Court overruled Roe.

Exactly and that makes me wonder if all the pro-life posturing by candidates (mainly republican) is fake-conviction-politics.

 

[archer75]

Yeah, absolutely.

I stated in prior threads I thought Moore was politically finished, regardless of his actual guilt or innocence. I suppose that still remains to be seen. However I also stated there exist as yet no proof he is guilty as charged, because an accusation alone does not constitute proof, regardless of how loudly the left protest it does.

I agree that an accusation is not proof.

If Moore were tried in a court of law for whatever, he should get a fair trial, as anyone should.

However, I don't have the power of a court of law. Neither do I have the responsibility. I'm comfortable enough reading people at this stage of my life that - for my purposes - I accept that he did this stuff. I don't think the accusers are lying. Do I think he should go to prison on the grounds that I believe the former 14-year-old? No. But I do think I can form my own opinion about his character based on the accusations and his response. And I think hes a man of such low character that he's unfit to hold any office at all.

And just in case this sounds partisan, I'd say the same of Bill Clinton.

 

[archer75]

Exactly and that makes me wonder if all the pro-life posturing by candidates (mainly republican) is fake-conviction-politics.

Agreed. They will mess with abortion "rights" locally but will never touch Roe.

 

[GingerBeer]

Agreed. They will mess with abortion "rights" locally but will never touch Roe.

Politicians can't directly overturn roe vs wade but they have had decades of opportunity to replace Supreme Court justices with justices that will overturn it and they haven't.

The voters in the US don't want to get rid of roe vs wade.

 

[RDKirk]

This is like being a Christian in the old USSR (or maybe even the new Russia) or the Philippines or most other places where all political choices only prove that the affections of those with the Mind of Christ must lie somewhere else entirely.

I don't know why Christians in America continue to delude themselves that the earthly power of Caesar can ever represent the Kingdom of Heaven in this world.

Christians in America put on colored googles with red lenses or blue lenses that always filter out part of Christ's full spectrum of moral ideals. Republicans with their red goggles can't see Christ's ideals that are on the blue end of the spectrum, and Democrats with their blue goggles can't see Christ's ideals that are on the red end of the spectrum.

 

[Christie insb]

The short answer is liberalism kills. Whenever liberal/progressive policy is enacted the death toll always goes up.

In addition modern Liberalism is permeated and defined by nothing more than and little less than Communists, Socialists and Dictators. Trump's election has clearly exposed that truth for all who have eyes to see. This truth can be ascertained by simply listening to anything Chuck Schumer or Elizabeth Warren have to say; but more than listen to what they say watch how they say it.

For one more reason at its most basic level liberalism is anti-God. Or perhaps it would be more accurate to state liberalism is anti-Christian, for liberals do worship a god, the god known of as The State. Think about it, why do you believe on election night last year millions of people were actually broken down in tears, crying and wailing over the fact Clinton had lost the election? Why one year later were these same people out screaming at the sky? The answer isn't as simple as their side losing the Presidential election, the answer is their god had been cast down. This truth also accounts for the immediate and continual effort by the American left to overturn the results of the legal and constitutional election of Donald Trump, because one liberals care nothing of the Constitution or the legalities enforced therein and two they are hellbent to avenge their god. A legal election, the Constitution, Democracy, all of that can be damned.

Then you have the absolute moral decrepitude inherent in liberalism and defined by the Democrat Party throughout history. Remember, if every accusation leveled against Roy Moore is true, the actions those accusations represent all occurred when Moore was a proud Democrat, a proud member of the Democrat party.

For these and at least fifty other reasons I could give, Trump is correct, we don't need another liberal in the Senate.

We do not need a child abuser writing law in the United States. I wonder where your heart is if you think liberals worship politics but you would vote for men who hurt women sexually. This is explicitly forbidden in the Bible.