Trump tweets ICE plans mass arrests/removals to begin next week

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Crumbs? There is opportunity in america, thats why the illegals want in. They have crumbs in their own country.
Crumbs and chaos, yes.
Some of their people choose to leave and come to America seeking asylum, such people are therefore not “illegal”.
 
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And how does this prove illegals aren't coming here for opportunity?
Many of them are. If you want to put a stop to it why not enforce the laws against hiring illegal aliens? But some of them, the ones that most concern us lately, are fleeing for their lives from the violence and disorder of the failed states of Central America.
 
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What kind of states? Capitalist, communist, socialist?
All three of the Triangle countries are technically constitutional democratic republics with capitalist economies. The current Presidents belong to right-wing parties and have been seriously tainted with corruption and undue influence by large American corporations who own much of the land. The governments are weak and unable to control drug gangsters or protect the peasant class from them.
 
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All three of the Triangle countries are technically constitutional democratic republics with capitalist economies. The current Presidents belong to right-wing parties and have been seriously tainted with corruption and undue influence by large American corporations who own much of the land. The governments are weak and unable to control drug gangsters or protect the peasant class from them.
You mean all these immigrants come from 3 countries?
 
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You mean all these immigrants come from 3 countries?
They do. They are fleeing from the failed states of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, fleeing drug gang violence which the governments of those states are unable or unwilling to control.
 
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They do. They are fleeing from the failed states of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, fleeing drug gang violence which the governments of those states are unable or unwilling to control.
And they come to capitalist america, the greatest country on earth
 
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Nope, just a guy with some questions. If you know the answer could you post it? Your link didnt seem to answer the question. Were these states socialist, capitalist, or communist?
I think that I’m done here.
Have a glorious day!
 
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And they come to capitalist america, the greatest country on earth
Why not? They face only violence and death where they are now. Wouldn't you? Besides, it's capitalist America which has contributed significantly to the disordered conditions in their own countries. American corporations exploit and corrupt their economies and American demand for illegal drugs fuels gang violence.
 
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Nope, just a guy with some questions. If you know the answer could you post it? Your link didnt seem to answer the question. Were these states socialist, capitalist, or communist?
They are all democratic republics with right-wing governments and capitalist economies. Why is that important to you? It is more to the point that they are corruptly governed and dominated by drug gangs.
 
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Why not? They face only violence and death where they are now. Wouldn't you? Besides, it's capitalist America which has contributed significantly to the disordered conditions in their own countries. American corporations exploit and corrupt their economies and American demand for illegal drugs fuels gang violence.
American capitalism is opportunity and that's why they come here
 
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They are all democratic republics with right-wing governments and capitalist economies. Why is that important to you? It is more to the point that they are corruptly governed and dominated by drug gangs.
Drug gangs are not capitalist.
 
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American capitalism is opportunity and that's why they come here
Of course it also weighs heavily with them that they are not so likely to be murdered or have their children held hostage to force cooperation with gang activities.
 
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Drug gangs are not capitalist.
Capitalism is an economic system in which business enterprises (legal or otherwise) are owned by private individuals. The only way for a drug gang not to be capitalist is if the government was running it.
 
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Capitalism is an economic system in which business enterprises (legal or otherwise) are owned by private individuals. The only way for a drug gang not to be capitalist is if the government was running it.
Capitalism in america is governed by laws guaranteeing free trade. Monopolies are broken up. Gangs dont allow free trade and will kill the competition. Thats not capitalism.
 
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