Trump Threatens to Send in the Feds Chicago

[Radrook]

Trump has threatened to send in the Feds in response to the growing crime rate in Chicago.

 

[RDKirk]

I'd be rather interested in seeing that happen. There might be a precedent in Eisenhower calling in the National Guard to enforce integration requirements in southern states in opposition to local and state government, but those were very limited in scope and temporary in nature. This would require a few thousand of troops in a deployment of at least a decade to resolve the underlying issues...I'd be interested in seeing it attempted.

 

[sfs]

I'd be rather interested in seeing that happen. There might be a precedent in Eisenhower calling in the National Guard to enforce integration requirements in southern states in opposition to local and state government, but those were very limited in scope and temporary in nature.

Wouldn't that be a tad illegal, under the Posse Comitatus Act?

 

[lasthero]

I'm honestly confused as to what that even means.

Send in the feds to do...what, exactly?

 

[Desk trauma]

I'm honestly confused as to what that even means.

Send in the feds to do...what, exactly?

To #MAGA!

 

[Tina W]

I'm honestly confused as to what that even means.

Send in the feds to do...what, exactly?

That's what I want to know!

 

[mnorian]

That's what I want to know!

Martial Law: N. "military government involving the suspension of ordinary law."

 

[mnorian]

Wouldn't that be a tad illegal, under the Posse Comitatus Act?

That doesn't apply to National Guards or the Coast Guard.

 

[RDKirk]

Wouldn't that be a tad illegal, under the Posse Comitatus Act?

Unfortunately, Ronald Reagan severely undermined Posse Comitatus by Executive Order without a response by the Judicial or Legislative Branches. But federal involvement in law enforcement was "under the radar" of Americans at that time; I knew about it because my military unit was one of those tapped.

As I said, I'd be interested in seeing how that would play out in the courts.

 

[RDKirk]

Martial Law: N. "military government involving the suspension of ordinary law."

Part of what I'd be interested in seeing played out in the courts is whether the president can order martial law for a region over the objection of the state. No truly "conservative" court would allow that to happen.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Part of what I'd be interested in seeing played out in the courts is whether the president can order martial law for a region over the objection of the state. No truly "conservative" court would allow that to happen.

Not seeing how ... or why ... Trump would order martial law in Chicago. He's said no such thing. What he did say apparently related to recommending a consultant to the police department.

It would appear, however, that the Department of Justice does have a measure of authority it can wield to maintain law and order in Chicago. After all, doesn't murder violate one's civil rights?

 

[Arcangl86]

That doesn't apply to National Guards or the Coast Guard.

Posse Comitatus actually does apply to the National Guard if they have been federalized IIRC.

 

[RDKirk]

After all, doesn't murder violate one's civil rights?

Actually, no. Not all by itself. Factors such as "hate crime" would have to be included. Murder per se is not a federal crime.

 

[Arcangl86]

And of course this ignores the huge federal presence already in Chicago. I think all the major agencies have a field office here.

 

[NightHawkeye]

And of course this ignores the huge federal presence already in Chicago. I think all the major agencies have a field office here.

There ya have it.

With offices already there all Trump has to do is send more staffers in. So what's the issue?

 

[sfs]

I do kind of like the idea of the Coast Guard fighting crime in Chicago. I'm sure their skill set is ideal for the task.

 

[Arcangl86]

There ya have it.

With offices already there all Trump has to do is send more staffers in. So what's the issue?

What good is sending in a couple dozen more federal agents going to do?

 

[NightHawkeye]

What good is sending in a couple dozen more federal agents going to do?

All it usually takes is one.

 

[RDKirk]

All it usually takes is one.

The Texas Rangers would be highly offended by your confusing them with Federales.

 

[Uncle Siggy]

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