Trump Standing Improves Among GOP Voters

[disciple Clint]

Morning Consult Political Intelligence tracking of Trump’s intraparty favorability rating, conducted Jan. 23-25 among 4,296 Republican voters, found 81 percent hold positive views of Trump, including 54 percent who do so strongly. It marks an improvement from a 76 percent low measured Jan. 10-12, when the share who strongly favored him bottomed out at 49 percent on the eve of his second House impeachment. Senate Republicans Signal Acquittal for Trump as His Standing Improves Among GOP Voters - Morning Consult

 

[.Mikha'el.]

It's irrelevant now. Even if he did mount another run next time, he'd at the very minimum lose in the general election, and possibly in the primaries.

 

[disciple Clint]

It's irrelevant now. Even if he did mount another run next time, he'd at the very minimum lose in the general election, and possibly in the primaries.

Yes I think everyone said the same thing in 2016 and then they cried and howled at the moon.

 

[A2SG]

Morning Consult Political Intelligence tracking of Trump’s intraparty favorability rating, conducted Jan. 23-25 among 4,296 Republican voters, found 81 percent hold positive views of Trump, including 54 percent who do so strongly. It marks an improvement from a 76 percent low measured Jan. 10-12, when the share who strongly favored him bottomed out at 49 percent on the eve of his second House impeachment. Senate Republicans Signal Acquittal for Trump as His Standing Improves Among GOP Voters - Morning Consult

Just goes to show some people have short memories.

-- A2SG, but fortunately, not all of us do.....

 

[disciple Clint]

Just goes to show some people have short memories.

-- A2SG, but fortunately, not all of us do.....

OR maybe people have voters remorse now that they are waking up.

 

[A2SG]

OR maybe people have voters remorse now that they are waking up.

Waking up to....what, exactly?

Trump hasn't changed.

And President Biden hasn't turned the US Marxist/Communist/Socialist or whatever people were claiming he was going to.

-- A2SG, at least many people are being held accountable for their actions on January 6....even if everyone isn't.....

 

[FireDragon76]

There's four years for Republican politicians to work on de-radicalizing the base, even if Trump is not impeached, I very much doubt he will be re-elected. He is a toxic bully and he only used fear to keep other politicians inline.

 

[disciple Clint]

Waking up to....what, exactly?

Trump hasn't changed.

And President Biden hasn't turned the US Marxist/Communist/Socialist or whatever people were claiming he was going to.

-- A2SG, at least many people are being held accountable for their actions on January 6....even if everyone isn't.....

The answer to both questions is the same: Look at Biden's EOs, I have no doubt the voters will hold Biden responsible for the results of his attempt to be king instead of president. We, the people are supposed to have input into how our government operates, that is the purpose of having Congress, Biden is not giving the people any opportunity to express their desires. I would think that since his party has control of Congress he could let the system function as it was designed to function instead of like a dictatorship.

 

[FireDragon76]

The answer to both questions is the same: Look at Biden's EOs, I have no doubt the voters will hold Biden responsible for the results of his attempt to be king instead of president. We, the people are supposed to have input into how our government operates, that is the purpose of having Congress, Biden is not giving the people any opportunity to express their desires. I would think that since his party has control of Congress he could let the system function as it was designed to function instead of like a dictatorship.

Biden's EO's seem fairly popular, and not extreme. Biden's approval rating is currently higher than Trump's ever was. So far, Biden is presenting himself as a centrist, and by no means a dictator. Competent leadership is not dictatorship.

 

[mnorian]

OR maybe people have voters remorse now that they are waking up.

With the pandemic; we are on a war footing; and need things done now; and don't have time to wait for the congress; and the obstructionist Republicans.

 

[disciple Clint]

Biden's EO's seem fairly popular, and not extreme. Biden's approval rating is currently higher than Trump's ever was. So far, Biden is presenting himself as a centrist, and by no means a dictator. Competent leadership is not dictatorship.

Biden's approval rating is currently higher than it will ever be in the future. Killing Jobs, raising the cost of energy, and increasing taxes is not the way to popularity.

 

[A2SG]

The answer to both questions is the same: Look at Biden's EOs, I have no doubt the voters will hold Biden responsible for the results of his attempt to be king instead of president.

Um, I have no idea what executive orders you're referring to. The ones President Biden actually signed were perfectly reasonable, and none of them increased his own personal powers in the slightest. If you think you saw an executive order granting him a crown or something, you may want to check your sources.

We, the people are supposed to have input into how our government operates, that is the purpose of having Congress, Biden is not giving the people any opportunity to express their desires. I would think that since his party has control of Congress he could let the system function as it was designed to function instead of like a dictatorship.

And he's going to. Most of the executive orders were to move the process along on issues that needed to be dealt with in a timely manner, such as increasing unemployment benefits for people hit hard by the pandemic. But he gave a far more extensive relief package for Congress to vote on.

Sounds like things are working the way they should.

-- A2SG, and so far anyway, no golf trips.....

 

[disciple Clint]

With the pandemic; we are on a war footing; and need things done now; and don't have time to wait for the congress; and the obstructionist Republicans.

Do we need to be in a big rush to terminate 11,000 people who were working on the pipeline or all the people working on the wall, or the people working in the energy industry, how are those people going to feed their family, keep their homes, or find jobs that pay the kind of money they have been making?

 

[disciple Clint]

Um, I have no idea what executive orders you're referring to. The ones President Biden actually signed were perfectly reasonable, and none of them increased his own personal powers in the slightest. If you think you saw an executive order granting him a crown or something, you may want to check your sources.



And he's going to. Most of the executive orders were to move the process along on issues that needed to be dealt with in a timely manner, such as increasing unemployment benefits for people hit hard by the pandemic. But he gave a far more extensive relief package for Congress to vote on.

Sounds like things are working the way they should.

-- A2SG, and so far anyway, no golf trips.....

Have you seen any of those EOs that could not have gone through the normal process, what was so urgent that the American people could not been given the opportunity to provide input. As far as things working like they should, you might want to ask those people who will no longer be working because their jobs were eliminated without any opportunity for their representatives to vote.

 

[A2SG]

Do we need to be in a big rush to terminate 11,000 people who were working on the pipeline or all the people working on the wall, or the people working in the energy industry, how are those people going to feed their family, keep their homes, or find jobs that pay the kind of money they have been making?

I've responded to those exaggerated claims on the pipeline before; the number of jobs is closer to one thousand, and most of those were temporary anyway; and even if the number of jobs were close to your exaggerated figure, are they worth the hundreds of thousands of gallons of tarsands oil the pipeline has already leaked into the US? The damage to the environment may be irreparable. Besides, oil prices have plummeted since the pandemic hit anyway, so the economic benefit of the oil being piped (most of which wasn't going to the US anyway) is negligible.

-- A2SG, all in all, it sounds more and more like a bad idea that should have ended already....

 

[A2SG]

Have you seen any of those EOs that could not have gone through the normal process, what was so urgent that the American people could not been given the opportunity to provide input. As far as things working like they should, you might want to ask those people who will no longer be working because their jobs were eliminated without any opportunity for their representatives to vote.

Given how obstructionist the GOP was under President Obama, and how many of them still supported the outgoing president who cared more about his lost cause of reelection than doing his job, it seems a prudent move to get things moving on the important issues right away, and take the time later on, when the mood of Congress and the GOP can be better measured, to see what can be done further.

But, again, whether or not you agree these actions needed to be done swiftly, none of them have been unreasonable or benefitted President Biden directly in any way. If he waited for the "normal process", we might still be waiting months from now...if not years....

-- A2SG, look how long the GOP took to simply recognize who won the election, something that most of us knew that very night....

 

[GreekOrthodox]

I've responded to those exaggerated claims on the pipeline before; the number of jobs is closer to one thousand, and most of those were temporary anyway; and even if the number of jobs were close to your exaggerated figure, are they worth the hundreds of thousands of gallons of tarsands oil the pipeline has already leaked into the US? The damage to the environment may be irreparable. Besides, oil prices have plummeted since the pandemic hit anyway, so the economic benefit of the oil being piped (most of which wasn't going to the US anyway) is negligible.

-- A2SG, all in all, it sounds more and more like a bad idea that should have ended already....

Do you have some links for the real loss of jobs with the XL Pipeline? I've got a friend who is now convinced that all of our oil was going to go through it. ... sigh ...

 

[disciple Clint]

I've responded to those exaggerated claims on the pipeline before; the number of jobs is closer to one thousand, and most of those were temporary anyway; and even if the number of jobs were close to your exaggerated figure, are they worth the hundreds of thousands of gallons of tarsands oil the pipeline has already leaked into the US? The damage to the environment may be irreparable. Besides, oil prices have plummeted since the pandemic hit anyway, so the economic benefit of the oil being piped (most of which wasn't going to the US anyway) is negligible.

-- A2SG, all in all, it sounds more and more like a bad idea that should have ended already....

I will keep that in mind when I am paying over $5 a gallon for gas in the near future. The bill to heat my home wont be as friendly as it is now either.

 

[A2SG]

Do you have some links for the real loss of jobs with the XL Pipeline? I've got a friend who is now convinced that all of our oil was going to go through it. ... sigh ...

This one seems pretty comprehensive.

-- A2SG, always happy to help.....

 

[disciple Clint]

Given how obstructionist the GOP was under President Obama, and how many of them still supported the outgoing president who cared more about his lost cause of reelection than doing his job, it seems a prudent move to get things moving on the important issues right away, and take the time later on, when the mood of Congress and the GOP can be better measured, to see what can be done further.

But, again, whether or not you agree these actions needed to be done swiftly, none of them have been unreasonable or benefitted President Biden directly in any way. If he waited for the "normal process", we might still be waiting months from now...if not years....

-- A2SG, look how long the GOP took to simply recognize who won the election, something that most of us knew that very night....

The point is that we have a system of government bypassing that system without justification is unconstitutional and I expect that Biden will find out that the courts are not going to allow it.