Trump says more information soon to be released about Anti-Trump Witness Vindman

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You sent 5 min youtube link about vindman and how bad and corrupt he is .. my question is how did he became NSC advisor under President Trump … didn’t white house do a background check on him ?

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Pence can’t pardon him for the raft of state crimes he’s on the hook for.

Why not? Donald Trump pardoned Joe Arapeio (sp?) and his crimes were only in Arizona.
I think that those were Federal crimes ... civil rights violations, etc.
 
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The woman is reporting what Hickman himself posted on Twitter.
There's no "woman" reporting anything - it's literally just a text-to-speech program reading his tweets.
 
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There's no "woman" reporting anything - it's literally just a text-to-speech program reading his tweets.

Did you listen to the entire video?

It's Nancy Morgan Hart speaking.
 
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Which state crimes is he on the hook for?

I know that possible tax and fraud charges were mentioned, that Trump allegedly used different accounting books when figuring his taxes compared to those used when applying for loans -- he understated earnings on his taxes but overstated his earnings and assets when applying for loans.

Additionally, there is an investigation into his charity, Trump Foundation, that allegedly gave little to charity but that Trump used it for personal purchases and to pay debts.
 
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...a continuation of post #63 (feedback from someone-Lieutenant Colonel Jim Hickman, US Army, retired- who knew and worked with Alexander Vindman in the US Army).

Here's his link from twitter:
LTC (R) Jim Hickman on Twitter


Sounds like mostly hearsay, along with some (likely accurate) benign jokes about Americans being clueless about other cultures. This is hardly the first time I've seen a conservative, particularly retired military, get butthurt at the idea of questioning American culture. And if previous partisan statements undermine someone's credibility, then take a load of this guy's Twitter feed. It's literally nothing but pro-Trump stuff:

LTC (R) Jim Hickman (@Jim_Hickman13) | Twitter

Actually, it looks like a troll account. It's just dozens of retweets every single day.
 
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Sounds like mostly hearsay, along with some (likely accurate) benign jokes about Americans being clueless about other cultures. This is hardly the first time I've seen a conservative, particularly retired military, get butthurt at the idea of questioning American culture. And if previous partisan statements undermine someone's credibility, then take a load of this guy's Twitter feed. It's literally nothing but pro-Trump stuff:

LTC (R) Jim Hickman (@Jim_Hickman13) | Twitter
Did Hickman lie?
 
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Sounds like mostly hearsay, along with some (likely accurate) benign jokes about Americans being clueless about other cultures. This is hardly the first time I've seen a conservative, particularly retired military, get butthurt at the idea of questioning American culture. And if previous partisan statements undermine someone's credibility, then take a load of this guy's Twitter feed. It's literally nothing but pro-Trump stuff:

LTC (R) Jim Hickman (@Jim_Hickman13) | Twitter

Actually, it looks like a troll account. It's just dozens of retweets every single day.

We can obviously discredit anything Jim Hickman says on account of partisan bias, amirite?

That's how it works, isn't it? We don't have to examine anyone's claims because the person may be affiliated with a political party (he was a Democrat) or (shudder) dislike President Trump.

That's what the entire defense of Trump from his supporters has been. Not actually trying to challenge the facts, but to discredit his accusers because they're "biased".
 
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We can obviously discredit anything Jim Hickman says on account of partisan bias, amirite?

That's how it works, isn't it? We don't have to examine anyone's claims because the person may be affiliated with a political party (he was a Democrat) or (shudder) dislike President Trump.

That's what the entire defense of Trump from his supporters has been. Not actually trying to challenge the facts, but to discredit his accusers because they're "biased".
Did Hickman lie?
 
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Did Hickman lie?

Did Vindman lie? Why bother to post this nonsense about what Hickman said about Vindman if what Vindman said was the truth.

Your goal in posting it appears to have been to impugn Vindman's character to call his testimony into question.

All iluvatar did was take it 1 step further and start looking into the character of the person you're using as a character witness to Vindman. What I did from there is call out what the strategy was in posting Hickman's tweet.
 
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brinny said:
Did Hickman lie?
Did Vindman lie? Why bother to post this nonsense about what Hickman said about Vindman if what Vindman said was the truth.

Your goal in posting it appears to have been to impugn Vindman's character to call his testimony into question.

All iluvatar did was take it 1 step further and start looking into the character of the person you're using as a character witness to Vindman. What I did from there is call out what the strategy was in posting Hickman's tweet.
What has what you posted got to do with the question in my post that you responded to?

There is no need to accuse me of any such thing nor to evaluate my posting as "nonsense".
 
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Actually, it looks like a troll account. It's just dozens of retweets every single day.

Very much smacks of a troll account. Started Feb 2018, 16k followers, almost entirely retweets. Some days there are literally dozens of retweets, then gaps with no posting at all for a number of days, then frenzied bursts of retweeting. Might just be a hardcore Trump fan, but it’s suspicious. Especially as their activity over time graph has only a 4 hour period where they never tweet.

I’d like to see followers from a month ago to see how linked the account was or whether it’s just exploded in the last few days, but I’m on my mobile at the moment and it’s a pain to check.
 
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Did you listen to the entire video?

It's Nancy Morgan Hart speaking.
I'll admit, I didn't listen to the whole thing - as soon as I figured out it was just a static image with someone reading tweets, I shut it off. I can read for myself.

Edit: That said, I have no idea who Nancy Morgan Hart is, but she sure as heck sounded like a text-to-speech robot.
 
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Did Hickman lie?
Whether or not Hickman lied is irrelevant. His complaints about Vindman boil down to the fact that he said some partisan stuff in Hickman's presence. If being partisan is a reason to doubt someone's testimony, then Hickman isn't exactly one to throw stones, given his own partisanship.
 
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What has what you posted got to do with the question in my post that you responded to?

What does it have to do with the question? It has everything to do with the conversation, which is more than your 1 line question response to my previous post. I've made the context of my post abundantly clear.

such thing nor to evaluate my posting as "nonsense".

What did I accuse you of? I guessed at your intentions of your posting Hickman's tweet, and made it clear I was doing so ("it appears"). If it wasn't to impugn Vindman's character, then may I ask what your intention was?

I evaluated Hickman's tweet as "nonsense" in that he's a clear partisan accusing Vindman of being partisan.
 
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brinny said:
Did you listen to the entire video?

It's Nancy Morgan Hart speaking.
I'll admit, I didn't listen to the whole thing - as soon as I figured out it was just a static image with someone reading tweets, I shut it off. I can read for myself.

Edit: That said, I have no idea who Nancy Morgan Hart is, but she sure as heck sounded like a text-to-speech robot.
LOL! She's a real person. She has a website n' everything.
 
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brinny said:
Did Hickman lie?
Whether or not Hickman lied is irrelevant. His complaints about Vindman boil down to the fact that he said some partisan stuff in Hickman's presence. If being partisan is a reason to doubt someone's testimony, then Hickman isn't exactly one to throw stones, given his own partisanship.
Whether or not Hickman lied is irrelevant.
It IS relevant if Hickman lied or not.
 
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