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Trump says more information soon to be released about Anti-Trump Witness Vindman

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by NightHawkeye, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Advocates aren't supposed to be impartial.

    Because they are surviving scrutiny -- and they're surviving Donald's fear of that scrutiny. The scrutiny is in progress right now.

    Haven't you been paying attention to the scrutiny?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7d7c48-ff4e-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html
     
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  2. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Many will not be able to be acted upon until after Trump is out of office.

    Some, however, as his employer, ... we can begin to act upon now ...
     
  3. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    Incorrect.

    He can be impeached today. All you need is a crime.
    Sure. All Democrats need to do is field a better candidate for president. Is that asking too much?
     
  4. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    Mostly, i pray for myself, that i'm not a monster, and that God supersedes my own nature, which is to plow peoples down, so to speak. I ask for forgiveness, and HIS inexplicable grace, and for His grace to be present in all of my thoughts, words, and deeds, and for him to grant me a "forgiving heart, and to grant me remembrance, that i did not "deserve" His grace, yet He granted it.

    This song below covers it. This is mostly what i pray for, and then i pray outwards, for others, and my country and leaders, and for other countries and its leaders.

    (i also DO things such as help and bless those around me and overseas, through ministries, and advocate for others (gotta take that fierceness SOMEWHERE, right?) and remember what it's like to be homeless, and help and advocate for the homeless.

    And i do this (from the heart) because God had mercy on my sawwy soul.

    (By the way, how are you Vylo? I don't see you as often as i used to.)

     
  5. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    I was never anywhere that sucked more than Saudi Arabia.

    And not so much because of the physical conditions but because of the people.
     
  6. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    BTW, I hope everyone realizes that if Trump is successfully impeached, then Pence becomes president, and his first act will be a blanket pardon Trump for whatever crimes Trump might have done in office.

    That's what Ford did for Nixon, and the courts upheld it.
     
  7. rambot

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    What was it like?
     
  8. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Waiting until election is not a prudent response to an official who is abusing his/her office.

    As part of my experience as a member of a non-profit, the Board upon which I sat determined that the Treasurer was embezzling funds. It would not have been prudent to wait until the next opportunity to vote him out of office. That is why the impeachment process exists ...

    And the impeachment process is not only relevant in the case of criminal activity. When the officer of an organization begins to pursue other goals than those of the organization ... using organizational resources (time, money, volunteers), there needs to be a provision where that officer can be retired from there post.

    Criminal activity just makes it that much worse, of course ...
     
  9. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If I'm not mistaken, Pence would only be able to pardon Federal crimes ...
     
  10. Kentonio

    Kentonio Well-Known Member

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    Pence can’t pardon him for the raft of state crimes he’s on the hook for.
     
  11. whatbogsends

    whatbogsends Senior Veteran

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    Clearly the man who drinks his little wine and eats his little crackers is a man of God.
     
  12. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    So far every candidte is way better then Trump.
     
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  13. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    Yes. That's what the Democrats are up in arms about.
     
  14. ChristianForCats

    ChristianForCats Christ is born!

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    Don't be so optimistic about that. Gerald Ford waited about two months to pardon Richard Nixon, right? It is also noteworthy Bill Clinton was never pardoned by Barack Obama, who had eight years to do that if he wanted to.
     
  15. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    Which state crimes is he on the hook for?
     
  16. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    Ford was his own man, and Obama certainly was.

    Pense doesn't even take a drink of water except closely behind Trump.
     
  17. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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    It's my understanding that prosecutors in NY are looking at him for tax violations. If they manage to get his tax returns, accounting records, and DeutscheBank records, I'd imagine a creative DA could come up with something.
     
  18. ChristianForCats

    ChristianForCats Christ is born!

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    Pence can’t pardon him for the raft of state crimes he’s on the hook for.

    Why not? Donald Trump pardoned Joe Arapeio (sp?) and his crimes were only in Arizona.
     
  19. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    Democrats aren't in arm about this. Sadly its excpected. Also Trump might not be impeached. Because of republicans having to approve it. Trump just left the Democrats no choice . But to impeach..
     
  20. Tiberius Lee

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    So you “ tanking God” that there will be damaging information coming out about someone which might ruin his life so your President can escape impeachment ? We defiantly worship different God! Because my God whom I worship wants me to love my enemy and don’t want me to wish that my enemy will be hurt so I can be benefited!
     
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