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Trump slams Biden for Afghanistan withdrawal at Alabama rally

Former President Donald Trump slammed the US withdrawal from Afghanistan as “the greatest foreign policy humiliation in the history of the United States of America” during a rally in Alabama on Saturday.

Trump ripped President Biden for allowing “weakness in the White House,” saying that, Vietnam looks like a Masterclass in strategy compared to Joe Biden’s catastrophe.”

“This will go down as one of the great military defeats of all time and it did not have to happen that way,” Trump said to his supporters. “This was not a withdrawal, this was a total surrender, for no reason.”​
 
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Trump slams Biden for Afghanistan withdrawal at Alabama rally

Former President Donald Trump slammed the US withdrawal from Afghanistan as “the greatest foreign policy humiliation in the history of the United States of America” during a rally in Alabama on Saturday.

Trump ripped President Biden for allowing “weakness in the White House,” saying that, Vietnam looks like a Masterclass in strategy compared to Joe Biden’s catastrophe.”

“This will go down as one of the great military defeats of all time and it did not have to happen that way,” Trump said to his supporters. “This was not a withdrawal, this was a total surrender, for no reason.”​

Still won't vote for trump! Learned my lesson after voting for him in 2016.
 
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“This was not a withdrawal, this was a total surrender, for no reason.”
There's always a reason. Reading between the lines of current events, America, that 1619, slave trading nation needs to get out of other people's business and start falling in line with Agenda 2030. There can be no more national pride, no privilege. Therefore the Americans over there should not be treated any differently from the Afghans.
 
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And it keeps looking worse ....but that is to be expected with the Taliban calling the shots....(figuratively and literally, with the weapons we left them)
On Friday Joey said we would get everybody out....That is not going to happen...we have maybe 3 days of airlifts left ....then the military has to draw down and evacuate which will take 2-3 days.... to be out by the 31st...
Negotiating with force or the threat of force is the only thing the Taliban will listen to....
 
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Trump slams Biden for Afghanistan withdrawal at Alabama rally

Former President Donald Trump slammed the US withdrawal from Afghanistan as “the greatest foreign policy humiliation in the history of the United States of America” during a rally in Alabama on Saturday.

Trump ripped President Biden for allowing “weakness in the White House,” saying that, Vietnam looks like a Masterclass in strategy compared to Joe Biden’s catastrophe.”

“This will go down as one of the great military defeats of all time and it did not have to happen that way,” Trump said to his supporters. “This was not a withdrawal, this was a total surrender, for no reason.”​
Trump exaggerates. There was a large scale panicked retreat in Vietnam c. 1975, not a Master class in strategy. The US is not going back to Vietnam either.
 
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Well, if trump says it, you can rest assured it’s a lie.
Or he has some self serving ends in view.

We are supposed to “know them by their fruit”

After 5 years of rotten fruit, well, what can I say?
 
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Trump slams Biden for Afghanistan withdrawal at Alabama rally

Former President Donald Trump slammed the US withdrawal from Afghanistan as “the greatest foreign policy humiliation in the history of the United States of America” during a rally in Alabama on Saturday.

Trump ripped President Biden for allowing “weakness in the White House,” saying that, Vietnam looks like a Masterclass in strategy compared to Joe Biden’s catastrophe.”

“This will go down as one of the great military defeats of all time and it did not have to happen that way,” Trump said to his supporters. “This was not a withdrawal, this was a total surrender, for no reason.”​

There was a president who
1) ordered one of the 2 founders of the Taliban out of jail after Obama had him there for 7 years
2) negotiated the withdrawal of the US troops with the Taliban, with a firm US withdrawal date
3) excluded the Afghan Army and government from all negotiations, making it clear that they had little power and would have continue to have in the future, with no continuing US help in supporting their corrupt regime and phantom army
4) negotiated the terms of withdrawal/surrender that has resulted in ZERO US deaths since the Agreement

That president's name is Donald J Trump.

Strongly agreeing with Trump, Biden wanted to keep the agreed upon May 1st date. After all, Biden campaigned against Trump's tearing up agreements made by Obama. Biden was convinced to try to extend the deadline. Biden extended the deadline to August 31, presumably with Taliban agreement, since there have still have been no Americans killed. The Taliban has protected Americans, and apparently assisted in the withdrawal. The 100,000 could not possibly have been evacuated without Taliban cooperation. The Taliban has even been protecting us against ISIS-K, although that is becoming more difficult.

To be clear, the Taliban could have bombed the runways or the people at the gates, or used other kinds of devices. That would have greatly diminished the number that could have been evacuated. And, that attack could have been made by extremists from the Taliban or by ISIS-K. The Taliban could certainly have reasonably claimed that they weren't responsible since they could not be expected to control every extremist Taliban fighter or even less control all of the ISIS-K fighters.

Of course, the Taliban isn't doing this out of humanitarian interests. They just want the US out, and the Taliban founder in control of Afghanistan, as was promised and agreed to in 2020.
 
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The Taliban could have sabotaged the evacuation, but from their POV, it would make no sense to do so. They want us out of there as quickly as possible, and are trying to expedite the process.

Trump bungled this by shutting the Afghan government out of the negotiations, which led to a completed collapse as the government and army just folded from lack of U.S. support. They just didn't trust us after Trump's betrayal.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Remember our loyal Kurdish allies? Trump tossed them under the bus, too.
 
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Ya know…. we do have eyes to see and ears to hear.


This is so typical ….responsibility? …..what responsibility? …No, no, no….This is Trumps fault….

Deflection is not going to work in this case because we have it all on tape from the get go….

This is a complete disaster …like everything else Biden touches. Biden owns this right down the line, this is undeniable and certainly inexcusable.

And the next one will be …shifting the “left behind” to the people.
 
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Ya know…. we do have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Yep. As you probably know, lots of people were warning Trump that his Pollyanna notion that the Taliban and the Afghan government would just come together and help us get Americans out of the country, was a foolish dream. Under the best of circumstances, it would have been unlikely. And by locking the Afghan government out of the negotiations, Trump made it the worst situation. So when we started to leave, officials and commanders fled, surrendered or switched sides.

Deflection is not going to work in this case because we have it all on tape from the get go….

Yep. Even conservatives warned him. He didn't listen.

Bolton: Trump-Pompeo negotiations ‘delegitimized Afghan government’
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This is a complete disaster

Over 90% of Americans are already evacuated. Unless some Americans left Afghanistan without telling anyone, there's maybe 350 left to go in the next few days. ISIS likely sees this as a disaster. But I don't see how an American would.

Biden owns this right down the line, this is undeniable and certainly inexcusable.

Biden saved countless lives by alerting Americans to not go to the airport just before ISIS-K attacked there. And he quite properly began to make them pay for it, by killing two of their commanders. And he let them know it wasn't going to end there; more to come.

Biden owns this right down the line

Yep. Biden was smart enough to just tell his commanders to "go get 'em." And they did. His Sec. of Defense, using the same common sense, told the troops to find creative ways to get the few remaining Americans out. One operation was using a local hotel as a base to shuttle them to the airport by helicopter, bypassing the gates entirely.

Have some faith in our men and women in uniform; they're smarter than you seem to think they are.
 
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Have some faith in our men and women in uniform; they're smarter than you seem to think they are.

I would have been happy to respond to your misinformed statements …which still do not distract from the ignorance of Joe.

But when you feel it necessary to add an unsolicited line like that to deflect the arrogant and irresponsible decisions of this president …….you are not worth the response.
 
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Hi all,

Oh come on! Aren't we tired of this yet? The former guy is a liar and he has been, probably since his early 20's, been one to tell people what he believes will stir them up to bolster his position. He's still telling everyone that the Arizona audit is going to prove all his claims of voter fraud...well? Doesn't anyone who listens to that man know by now that he's only telling you what he thinks you want to hear without even a single shred of evidence to support the things that he's telling you? ("sigh")

He's the guy who couldn't even formulate, in four years, a single comprehensive infrastructure plan even though that was one of his campaign promises and pretty much everyone agrees that we should be doing work on our national infrastructure. Well????

He's just telling you what he knows you want to hear to bolster his own weak abilities to get anything of any value done. Now he's telling you that Pres. Biden is doing it all wrong. Well, maybe so...but Pres. Biden is getting it done. He has put forth a comprehensive infrastructure plan and, by working in a non-partisan manner, is actually getting it done!!!! Talk is cheap!!!!

God bless,
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I have to admit - it is kind of fun watching the frantic machinations of those who have an intense dislike or hatred of President Trump reacting to the volumes of people who still rally around him.
 
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I would have been happy to respond to your misinformed statements …which still do not distract from the ignorance of Joe.

But when you feel it necessary to add an unsolicited line like that to deflect the arrogant and irresponsible decisions of this president …….you are not worth the response.

QFT and wisdom
 
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Combine the huge crowds with this:

Former President Trump’s various political committees brought in a combined $82 million in fundraising during the first six months of 2021.

And Trump has spent very little of the money he’s hauled in, with his committees entering the month of July with $102 million cash on hand, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission that the former president made public on Saturday evening.
And there is still three years to go before serious fund raising and campaigning.
 
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In other words, you have made too much sense for a response, so I don't have one.

Actually, he might not have known that DoD was letting the local commander manage things as the situation demanded. If so, perhaps actions he would have called "stupid" when he thought that Biden ordered them, suddenly seemed pretty smart, when he realized local commanders were ordering them.
 
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I have to admit - it is kind of fun watching the frantic machinations of those who have an intense dislike or hatred of President Trump reacting to the volumes of people who still rally around him.

Things are working out. Not quickly, but surely...

Trump's Ohio Speech: 'Scores Of People Left Early' — SAD!

Dozens of people walked out of a rally in Ohio over the weekend as former President Donald Trump was speaking.

Trump's Ohio Speech: 'Scores Of People Left Early' — SAD!

Former President Trump Losing Support From Republicans, Poll Finds
A poll found that for the first time since July 2019, party supporters outnumbered Trump supporters.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...mp-losing-support-from-republicans-poll-finds
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Things are working out. Not quickly, but surely...

Trump's Ohio Speech: 'Scores Of People Left Early' — SAD!

Dozens of people walked out of a rally in Ohio over the weekend as former President Donald Trump was speaking.

Trump's Ohio Speech: 'Scores Of People Left Early' — SAD!

Former President Trump Losing Support From Republicans, Poll Finds
A poll found that for the first time since July 2019, party supporters outnumbered Trump supporters.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...mp-losing-support-from-republicans-poll-finds
iu

Here is the overflow crowd_

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24 people leaving would not exactly make a dent

LOL Crooks and allies dot com

A never ending source of humor.

Biden never had dozens of people walking out because he never had dozens of people coming.
 
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Biden never had dozens of people walking out because he never had dozens of people coming.

There is a reason for that, but if I said you would just dismiss it because it would go against would you already think you know.
 
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