Trump now wishes he had left the UCLA players in China?

[Basil the Great]

According to news reports, the President is apparently upset by what the father of one of the three players has had to say.

 

[Albion]

I don't blame him, even though I'd rather that the president hadn't responded as he did.

Those guys were not innocents caught up in some culture clash, accused of something that would be only a trivial offense in this country. That's what happened with other travelers, but not these "ambassadors of good will."

 

[The~Cerberus~Infinite]

Dude gets your kid out of hot water in a foreign country and you still insult him?

You don't have to like him, but when he does you a solid, say thank you.

 

[Servant68]

Our current society does nothing but coddle criminals and make excuses for them. The result is idiots like the kid's father.

Having been in law enforcement and having family currently in law enforcement, I have a unique insight into just how bad America is rotting from the inside out.

Crime statistics are generally down, but that is due to people simply giving up on the system and no longer reporting crimes and cops no longer arresting a lot of people for stuff that in the past would have been a trip to jail and consequences in court. Cops realize that the justice system is broken and there are few consequences for the bad guys.

Why waste the time arresting someone, exposing yourself to personal injury and lawsuits, doing all of the paperwork, showing up in court on your day off, only to have the perp walk away with probation and time served only to be back doing the same thing in a week or two?

Police departments are grossly undermanned and can't attract new employees. This country is on the verge of a total breakdown of the justice system, and it's not going to be pretty...

 

[Albion]

Dude gets your kid out of hot water in a foreign country and you still insult him?

You don't have to like him, but when he does you a solid, say thank you.

Agreed, although maybe we should also note that the players all did so, whatever else we think of them. It's just this one father who was already known to be a jerk who behaved badly after the release was secured.

 

[cow451]

Agreed, although maybe we should also note that the players all did so, whatever else we think of them. It's just this one father who was already known to be a jerk who behaved badly after the release was secured.

One jerk being rude to another jerk.

 

[Hank77]

If all that kid took was a pair of glasses like his dad says, that doesn't amount to 10 yrs. in jail, not even close to it. That may be one reason the dad jerk is saying, too much is being made of it.

Still Trump was nice to speak to the Chinese about it and maybe that is why they could come home so soon without anyone going to trial.

Washington Post correspondent Simon Denyer reports from Beijing that someone who takes goods worth between 1,000 yuan ($150) and 2,500 yuan ($380), for example, could face a maximum sentence of six months, but might escape with only a fine. Stealing anything worth more than that would be punished with jail time. Someone convicted of stealing goods worth between 7,000 ($1,050) and 10,000 yuan ($1,510) would face between two and three years in jail under Chinese law. Theft of something worth 2,500 yuan to 4,000 yuan could result in a sentence of 6 months to one year and 4,000 yuan to 7,000 yuan, one to two years.
LiAngelo Ball, two other UCLA players released on bail after shoplifting arrest in China

 

[PeachyKeane]

I'm just curious, should we have left behind the (several now) American Christian preachers who have been arrested in North Korea for preaching Christianity in a nation where it is very illegal to preach Christianity? Especially after they are warned by their own government, the government of South Korea, and the government of North Korea that preaching Christianity is illegal in North Korea?

 

[Albion]

If all that kid took was a pair of glasses like his dad says, that doesn't amount to 10 yrs. in jail, not even close to it.

Not in America, it isn't. They were in China as foreign guests of the government, and it wasn't just "a pair of glasses," whatever you might have read his father to say.

 

[Hank77]

Not in America, it isn't. They were in China as foreign guests of the government, and it wasn't just "a pair of glasses," whatever you might have read his father to say.

What did they each steal then?

 

[ArmenianJohn]

I'm just curious, should we have left behind the (several now) American Christian preachers who have been arrested in North Korea for preaching Christianity in a nation where it is very illegal to preach Christianity? Especially after they are warned by their own government, the government of South Korea, and the government of North Korea that preaching Christianity is illegal in North Korea?

LOL, how cute, you think that preachers are worth something... No, you don't get how it works. Basketball players generate revenue. Preachers don't, they are not worth anything. Understand now? /s

 

[Albion]

What did they each steal then?

Exactly what each stole is unclear, but several sources--including the Athletic Director at UCLA--confirm that "they" stole at three different stores. And the merchandise was very high-end stuff intended mainly for wealthy tourists to buy. The notion that we'd believe Mr. Ball characterizing the event as no big deal and like stealing a pair of sunglasses is ridiculous. That's just him attempting to minimize the thefts. The penalty would probably have been five or so years in jail.

 

[Hank77]

Exactly what each stole is unclear, but several sources--including the Athletic Director at UCLA--confirm that "they" stole at three different stores. And the merchandise was very high-end stuff intended mainly for wealthy tourists to buy. The notion that we'd believe Mr. Ball characterizing the event as no big deal and like stealing a pair of sunglasses is ridiculous. That's just him attempting to minimize the thefts. The penalty would probably have been five or so years in jail.

So you believe it must have been over $1,500 dollars each.


ESPN, citing an unnamed source, reported that police came to the team hotel in the city of Hangzhou early Tuesday morning to apprehend the student-athletes, who were reportedly not allowed to speak to coaches. They have reportedly been accused of stealing sunglasses from a Louis Vuitton store next to the hotel.
LiAngelo Ball, two other UCLA players released on bail after shoplifting arrest in China

 

[PeachyKeane]

LOL, how cute, you think that preachers are worth something... No, you don't get how it works. Basketball players generate revenue. Preachers don't, they are not worth anything. Understand now? /s

Apparently, I was in the dark.

What about football players? What are they worth?

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Apparently, I was in the dark.

What about football players? What are they worth?

Just as much as basketball. For Pro in both sports they're worth even MORE!

 

[Vylo]

Trumps yelling at a clone of himself. It won't go anywhere good, but might get amusing.

 

[Dawnhammer]

Why waste the time arresting someone, exposing yourself to personal injury and lawsuits, doing all of the paperwork, showing up in court on your day off, only to have the perp walk away with probation and time served only to be back doing the same thing in a week or two?

Because it is your job and you are paid to do it?

 

[Albion]

So you believe it must have been over $1,500 dollars each.

From what we have been given to know, I wouldn't doubt it for a moment.

 

[War_Eagle]

According to news reports, the President is apparently upset by what the father of one of the three players has had to say.

Yes, Trump was wrong.

But you'd think the father would show a little gratitude, given what Trump just saved his son from.

 

[Hank77]

From what we have been given to know, I wouldn't doubt it for a moment.

I just googled Louis Vuitton sunglasses, the store that it was reported that they stole from, and just on the google page there is a pair that sells for $3,000.