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Trump May boycott 2020 debates after DNC snubs Fox News

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Mountainmanbob, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven Well-Known Member

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    @GreatLakes4Ever, if I may give you a friendly reminder...

    "Calling out" a member is an unsolicited comment about another member in reference to something they may have said, their personal beliefs, their signature, or their avatar (challenging the member in a negative manner). This applies to any thread, whether the called out member is participating in that thread or not. Do not quote, or make comments about another member, in your signature or user title. - Terms of Service and Christian Forum Rules
     
  2. Shiloh Raven

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  3. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am merely asking you to look at your own content and take an honest assessment of your content and explain to me why...
     
  4. Gigimo

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    You mean like telling Christian Trump voters/supporters they're immoral because they voted for him?
     
  5. Shiloh Raven

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    I didn't get personal and call a Trump supporting member out by name and call them immoral. I used general terms and addressed the 'lesser of two evils' ploy and the corruption of both political parties.
     
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  6. GoldenBoy89

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    Yep. It's all from the same person.

    And how'd you know my real name?
     
  7. Shiloh Raven

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    Surely you can't be serious?

    I am serious... and don't call me Shirley!
     
  8. rambot

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    Yeah. Trump should really, really start smartening up and not acting the way he does.


    That said, I would love to see any evidence to actually support this claim.
     
  9. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Why are you bringing Shirley into this conversation? ;)
     
  10. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I provided evidence on post #78
     
  11. Shiloh Raven

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    WhySoSirius.gif :D
     
  12. ThatRobGuy

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    ...glad to see he's further watering down and exaggerating certain terms.

    Funny how all he has to do is classify something "radical left" and his easily manipulated followers lap it up like a thirsty dog.

    For those who care about factual classifications. Radical left would be Karl Marks or Leon Trotsky...or groups like Weather Underground or the New Black Panther Party, not US Democrats who are, for the most part, moderate, and compared to western Euro nations, probably a tad right of center.
     
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  13. Belk

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    The goal posts seem to be shifting.
     
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  14. USincognito

    USincognito Milk-Bones for Cerberus is a cool album name Supporter

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    To whom is this response directed?
     
  15. ThatRobGuy

    ThatRobGuy Programmer Extraordinaire Supporter

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    With regards to his usage of the phrase "radical left", I wanted to give it some additional context.
    (it's friday, I'm not really a bar-hopper, the GF is out of town, so I'm bored, so I decided to make a quick & dirty little graphic)

    There's a large disparity between what the actual left-to-right spectrum looks like, and what the modern-day Trump supporter thinks it is.

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    In reality, the overwhelming majority of democrats are just a tad left of center, while the majority of pro-Trump republicans are closer to "radical right" then they are moderate. However, in their mind, they're "center right" and democrats are "radical left.

    The perspectives have gotten more dramatically skewed over the past few years.

    Evidence of this is how much the republicans, specifically those who are die-hard loyal to Trump, have increasing tried to squash any alternative ideas within the party and dismiss those who dare to even stray on one particular issue as a "RINO" and a "Liberal".

    This is usually dictated by positions on religious/moral stances held by the majority of evangelicals. I saw a lot of it in my home state of Ohio with regards to how Trump supporters talked about guys like John Kasich and Rob Portman. Those guys are conservative...not even centrists, but full blown conservatives. However, since Portman doesn't hold the "official stance" on gays and Kasich doesn't hold the "official stance" marijuana and guns, they get labelled as "not real conservatives" and people said "they're sellouts, we need to get them out of there and get some real conservatives in" (even though Rob Portman gets a good rating from the NRA, has anti-regulatory positions, favors tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, opposes abortion, opposed ObamaCare, opposes social safety nets, etc...because he doesn't take a stance that "gays should be denied marriage rights", he got labelled "left winger" and "RINO" by Ohio Trump supporters.

    When concepts like equal rights and separation of church and state are categorized as "radical left" ideas...you know the GOP has gone off the rails.

    Of course, the fact that AOC got elected has given them the false ammo of "this is what all democrats are!!!"...when in reality, like I noted above, there are far more people adhering to extreme positions in the GOP than there are in the democratic party.
     
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  16. USincognito

    USincognito Milk-Bones for Cerberus is a cool album name Supporter

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    What in the world are you babbling about? Did you miss this post where I actually looked threads that Jason (NOR YOU) were here to witness and I found over 1000 threads with Obama in the title just between 2012 and 2016?

    Here it is again. Jason's search is no where near comprehensive. He is wrong. Period.
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    I have no idea where you're getting your number from. I limited the threads from 2008-2016 and got bored when I reached 1000 threads.
    https://www.christianforums.com/threadloom/search?query=title:eek:bama forum:"909,909" after:2007-04-01 before:2016-11-30&tab=407&page=102
    That only goes back as far as 2012.

    And you're going to need to provide evidence that all of the Trump threads are merely "bashing him as a person". Looking at threads on the most recent 3 pages:
    Trump May boycott 2020 debates after DNC snubs Fox News
    Positive thread.
    So did Trump only help to boost Kim's image on the world stage?
    Neutral thread, but started by Trump supporter.
    Trump ranks Fox air staff by loyalty
    Critical thread, but about his too cozy relationship with Fox.
    Michael Cohen sues Trump Organization for unpaid legal fees
    Fact based thread.
    Korea : Trump = Peace + Security. Dems("Socialists") = War + Insecurity ?
    ???
    Trump ordered to pay legal fees after losing court battle over his Scottish golf course
    Fact based thread.
    Trump's Trade Wars Costs Americans billions per month
    Fact based thread.
    Mueller notifies judge that Trump friend Roger Stone may have violated gag order
    Fact based thread.
    N. Korea, Not Trump, Correct on Failed Summit: US Official
    Critical thread, but based on reporting, not personal opinion of the poster.
    Trump gives 2 hour speech at CPAC
    This one had some fun at his expense.
    Trump mocks glasses worn by Chinese officials in rambling speech riddled with false claims
    Critical thread with some editorializing.
    Trump and Kim hold talks in Hanoi having first dinner together
    Positive thread.
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  17. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

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    I believe your search is including all posts with the name "Obama" and "Trump". Did you check the "titles only" box? Because I don't think there are over 100,000 threads on this forum. There are over 100,000 posts on this forum.
     
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  19. FireDragon76

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    We do pray for our leaders. That doesn't mean we have to like them or agree with them.
     
  20. USincognito

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    I've been here for 16 years so I've go a pretty good command of how to use the search function. If, instead of asking me this question, you had taken the link I have proved - twice now - you would see that "Obama" appears in every title. But you didn't even need to do that. You could just have looked at the search URL.
    https://www.christianforums.com/threadloom/search?query=title:eek:bama forum:"909,909" after:2007-04-01 before:2016-11-30&tab=407&page=102
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    Obama
    2007-04-01 to 2016-11-30
    Page 102.

    There are 10 threads per page, so 102 pages means 1020 threads about Obama and that's not all of them for 2016-2012, which again, is only half of the search parameter I checked.

    1. Who said anything about 100,000 threads?
    2. There are over 100,000 threads in just Discussion and Debate, much less the entire forum.
    Discussion and Debate
    Discussions: 142,228 Messages: 5,587,572​
    3. There are 29,125 threads in American Politics and over 1060 of them have Obama in the title.

    Your are simply wrong Jason.
     
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