THIS is [apparently , partly] TRUE and wonderful !Obviously, it is clear there are now two different religions in this world, one follows Jesus in loving others with prodigal grace
We do believe God commands us not to sin, where did I suggest otherwise?
If he could also cite where Jesus told His disciples to partake in or enable sin, that would be helpful too. I seem to recall Him being pretty big on the whole "sin no more" thing.
Our church doesn't read that verse that way, it's been used by Pharisees over the centuries unjustly. Jesus is just saying "Don't get into trouble".
So when Jesus says “ sin no more” you think he’s really saying “don’t get caught”?
Not necessarily.
So what exactly do you think Jesus means when he says "sin no more"?
"Stay out of trouble".
Confessional Lutherans teach homosexual behavior is contrary to the word of God.Remember though Martin Luther, as in this short excerpt from internet search:
"Looking back at the time of Martin Luther, the reformist was also against homosexuality as it was considered a sodomy, sinful and the works of the devil. According to ... Whence comes this perversion?"
Do any Lutheran churches still hold so strongly to the original faith of Lutherans ?
Confessional Lutherans teach homosexual behavior is contrary to the word of God.
Not based on what you’ve stated thus far. And honestly, I have a very difficult time believing you’ve accurately portrayed the beliefs of the Lutheran church as a whole -- perhaps your particular congregation, or just yourself as an individual.None of that denies that we acknowledge sin. If anything, I think Lutherans take sin very seriously.
If you have a problem with people restating your claims regarding the beliefs of your church, perhaps some introspection is in order. Just a kind suggestion.Please refrain from libel and accusing us of things we do not teach.
I agree. I put all sexual sin in the same category, even my own.And you are free to believe that in our church as well. You are not free, however, to discriminate against your gay neighbor, or to shame them or speak ill of them needlessly. That's an important distinction.
Yes, and likewise THank you, I was raised LCMS decades ago, and was always taught that there,Confessional Lutherans teach homosexual behavior is contrary to the word of God.
Jesus told everyone, not just gays, to repent.You are not free, however, to discriminate against your gay neighbor, or to shame them or speak ill of them needlessly. That's an important distinction.
Absolutely! If my straight friend wanted me to cover for his adultery I could not. If my gay friend wanted me to celebrate his wedding I could not. It's never about the person, always about the sin.I agree. I put all sexual sin in the same category, even my own.
Everyone needs prayer,Mr. Philips needs prayer, not affirmation in his erroneous conscience.
I agree. I put all sexual sin in the same category, even my own.
Jesus told everyone, not just gays, to repent.
Is that shaming everyone ?!
This goes directly against God's Own Word "He is no respecter of persons" ...Therefore, ethics is not a matter of legalism as in other churches, but it must respect the sinner as a person.
Respect for human dignity is fundamental to our ethics.
What does Jesus Himself Say ? (about sin?)It can be if you use it in the wrong context. You aren't Jesus, don't commit a sin against the 1st commandment.
This is what your point is?It's about how we treat people who disagree with us and who do not share our religious beliefs.
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