Love your neighbour, as long as he isn't Republican.
To the rest of us, or some of us, Trump's witness is good and better, not egregious, and not wrong. As he stands up for what is right and true, as God enables him to, this is a good thing to be accepted if not embraced.His behavior really is at odds with the Episcopalians and my own church, and in an egregious way.
To the rest of us, or some of us, Trump's witness is good and better, not egregious, and not wrong. As he stands up for what is right and true, as God enables him to, this is a good thing to be accepted if not embraced.
This has nothing to do with what Trump did. It looks like mis-direction to me.You don't think Christians have a duty to protect those who are vulnerable from needless shame?
Do you believe that, or are you some kind of agent provocateur?
Remember though Martin Luther, as in this short excerpt from internet search:That makes a mockery of religious freedom as we Lutherans understand it.
Has anyone in the past 2000 years been able to prevent this?We cannot allow grossly barbaric and inhumane acts in the name of religion.
Don't you recognize that self-righteous acts are NOT PURE, and NOT RIGHTEOUS?As a follower of Jesus Christ, I am not called to stand for my own purity and righteousness, but I am called to love my neighbor as myself. I have the righteousness of Christ imputed to me. Why would I want to dishonor that through self-righteous acts that are meaningless?
truth, purity in the church, righteousness in Christ Jesus
No one in Christ does nor would want to.Why would I want to dishonor that through self-righteous acts that are meaningless?
Some of us answer to a higher authority than the postmodern “morality” of secular society. And nowhere in this case is anyone “shaming” the gay community, so let’s depart with the hyperbole.Gay marriage is legal in the US. Gay people are going to get married whether Christians shame them or not.
No, it’s about the rights of people not to be forced to participate in another person’s sinful behavior. Repeatedly throughout scripture God tells us not to sin (not just “don’t get into trouble” like you’ve claimed in this thread). Many, if not most, of us here know gay people personally. They’re our friends, our family, our co-workers, and yes, even our fellow church goers. We can love them, as we are called, but that doesn’t mean we should help enable their sin any more than we should enable anyone’s sin, including our own.This whole thing is a horrible legal move cooked up by the "Christian" right to try one last-ditch effort to try to find some constitutional right to hurt gay people. Because it's really not about wedding cakes, it's about repealing and undermining antidiscrimination laws.
Do you honestly not understand how someone can love the sinner yet not love the sin? Because you seem to think the two are mutually inclusive.Not treating gays as equals is shaming. You don't get to define what is and is not shaming.
"For many are called, but few are chosen." Matthew 22:14Most people who are not captivated by the ideology of the religious right understand this.
Regardless of what anyone does to anyone on earth,Not treating gays as equals is shaming. You don't get to define what is and is not shaming. Most people who are not captivated by the ideology of the religious right understand this.
Do you honestly not understand how someone can love the sinner yet not love the sin?
Amen, brother!Regardless of what anyone does to anyone on earth,
on Judgment Day Jesus sends the unrepentant sinners away, no matter what their sin was (sexual or otherwise, heterosexual included, and even just greed).
So it is better, as the Apostles write inspired by Yahweh Sovereign Creator,
for people TODAY, while they still are able to, to repent
EVEN IF it is EMBARRASSING (shamed?) and devastating -
because
it is so much better to be embarrassed now, and devastated,
instead of cast out on Judgment Day.
Would anyone dare disagree with Yahweh's Word ?
I'll be honest, friend. Seeing as you've stated your church doesn't even believe God commands us not to sin, their opinion is moot. And in keeping with the TOS here, I'll simply state I am so, SO glad I do not attend there. I prefer a church that preaches from the Bible.What Mr. Philips did, my church does not define as a loving act.
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