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Trump gives 2 hour speech at CPAC

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by essentialsaltes, Mar 2, 2019.

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  1. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    Ouch
     
  2. LostMarbels

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    There was no republican party until the presidential election of 1860. Republican Abraham Lincoln defeated Southern Democrat John C. Breckinridge, becoming the first ever Republican President.

    After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they (*Democrats) controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks (who were Republicans). The "Solid South" gave nearly all its electoral votes to Democrats in presidential elections.

    * added for contextual content. Only text by astreic is my edit.
    United States presidential election of 1860 | United States government

    At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

    The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans. Racist activity in the South often took the form of riots that targeted blacks and Republicans.

    Grant, Reconstruction and the KKK | American Experience | PBS
     
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  3. LostMarbels

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    And it is meant as intended. To judge a 'pro' just look at the 'counter'. You can see what someone stands for by seeing what they oppose.
     
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  4. LostMarbels

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    The move of Southern states from solidly Democrat to solidly Republican began to take place. In that environment, the Dixiecrats and the “Southern Strategy" was born.

    Their campaign slogan was “Segregation Forever!"

    Meeting in Birmingham, Alabama, the Dixiecrats nominated South Carolina governor Strom Thurmond as their presidential candidate, and Mississippi governor Field J. Wright, as their vice-presidential nominee. The party platform represented the openly racist views of most white southerners of the time. It opposed abolition of the poll tax while endorsing segregation and the "racial integrity" of each race.


    Also from:
    https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1751.html

    Welcome to the birth of the RINO.
     
  5. cow451

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    Welcome to What about 50 years ago?
     
  6. LostMarbels

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    No the conversation line began here:
    Trump gives 2 hour speech at CPAC

    However, truth is Democrats, not Republicans are the progenitors of all racial angst in America. They even came up with the "southern strategy" to infiltrate the republican party to make it more amiable towards segregation; creating what we now call RINO's.
     
  7. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    Which is a nice summary of Whatabout 50 years ago. Or are “Real Republicans” actually what we now call Democrats?
     
  8. cow451

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    The GOP still controls the Senate. You really need a game program.
     
  9. EpiscipalMe

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    You being wrong about the Southern Democrats, the Southern Strategy, and the modern Republican Party is not dependent on you support of Trump.

    The Democrats were the early supporters of racism but this changes decades ago when the Dixiecrats jumped ship and joined the Republicans. The Southern Strategy was orchestrated by the Nixon campaign, not the Dems.
     
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  10. LostMarbels

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    What I quoted here is from PBS, and The Encyclopedia Britannica. Tell them they are in error. I didn't come up with it. Sources are cited.

    Trump gives 2 hour speech at CPAC
     
  11. EpiscipalMe

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    PBS says nothing about the Southern Strategy being a ploy by the Democrats to infiltrate the Republican Party.

    Southern Strategy | Encyclopedia.com
     
  12. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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    There's nothing incorrect in that post. However, it only covers 1860 to the late 1870s. We're talking about a period of time 100 years later, which your post does not address.
     
  13. LostMarbels

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    Thank you. That is because I was answering one person, not championing a cause.

    If people would just click the links to follow the conversation instead of rebutting everything.

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  14. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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    Except that the original post in that discussion specifically talked about the procession of Democrats -> Dixiecrats -> Republicans, which was then called a lie. That post was then (mockingly) referred to as a product of the "Daughters of the Confederacy history textbook," to which you made your reply about the Reconstruction period. So perhaps it might behoove you to follow your own advice.
     
  15. USincognito

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    Actually the Republican party formed from the division of the Whigs over slavery in 1854.
     
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  16. LostMarbels

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    Correct. I stated my post wrong.
    1854
    Republican Party founded
    • Wisconsin, former members of the Whig Party meet to establish a new party to oppose the spread of slavery into the western territories. The Whig Party, which was formed in 1834 to oppose the “tyranny” of President Andrew Jackson, had shown itself incapable of coping with the national crisis over slavery.

      With the successful introduction of the Kansas-Nebraska Bill of 1854, an act that dissolved the terms of the Missouri Compromise and allowed slave or free status to be decided in the territories by popular sovereignty, the Whigs disintegrated. By February 1854, anti-slavery Whigs had begun meeting in the upper midwestern states to discuss the formation of a new party. One such meeting, in Wisconsin on March 20, 1854, is generally remembered as the founding meeting of the Republican Party.
     
  17. Go Braves

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    What a weird photo. Of course Trump doesn't get that this is actually disrespectful to the flag.

    AAR, I agree with this: Trump’s CPAC Rant Wasn’t a Speech—It Was a Breakdown
     
  18. TLK Valentine

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    And so on, indeed.

    How about instead I do you a favor and assume you phrased this wrong?

    Who said I don't understand it?
     
  19. USincognito

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    Oh brother! Not this asinine talking point. He perjured himself at the behest of Trump. And if he's such an awful person and liar, why was he a Trump friend and fixer for 20 years?
     
  20. TLK Valentine

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    In order to find this, would you support an in-depth investigation into Donald's finances?

    and if so, would you agree that if such an investigation turned up evidence of crimes not related to Russia, justice should be done?
     
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