NOPE, you put those words in her mouth....
I think she absloutely did.
Lets read it one more time:
I am excited to see things shaping up and the way being prepared for the second coming of Lord Jesus.I just think that people do not understand that this preparation will not be pretty, or painless.
Perhaps, but its pretty clear she is also excited to "see things Shaping up" and that "It wont be painless"
RADICALS.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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Wait a minute. Is he accusing evangelicals with setting the stage for Satan to appear as Christ? Sounds like it to me. Someone should tell him that God's Word just so happens to prophecy of Satan coming to pose as Messiah in the last days; no need to blame it on evangelicals who may warn about it from Scripture, because God is Who is warning us about it in His Word.
Rev.12:7 forward reveals Satan being cast down to this earth with his angels after the war in Heaven against Michael and his angels, and the "dragon" is one of Satan's titles given there, which continues as the subject of the coming false one in Rev.13 that will work great signs and miracles on earth, raining fire down from heaven in the sight of men, and setting up an "image of the beast" in false idol worship.
I, too am excited for the coming of Christ. I'm fearful of the events that usher it in.
This is the key statement in the quote
""Evangelicals misinterpret the prophecies as applying to literal Israel when they now apply to spiritual Israel."
This is the key statement in the quote
""Evangelicals misinterpret the prophecies as applying to literal Israel when they now apply to spiritual Israel."
Is this the LIE of 2 Thessalonians 2:10-13 ?
Can you be grafted in physically to the Nation of Iseral? NO We as gentiles are grafted in Spiritually since the Cross. Thus the 70 week prophecy (seventy weeks are determined upon my people) ended the literal Israel and at the Cross spiritual Israel was instituded.
"When the Jewish nation rejected the Messiah, the Gospel was spread to all nations. All who believe in the name of Jesus can now become the spiritual descendants of Abraham (Galatians 3:16, 29; Romans 4:16; 9:3-8).
The apostle Paul calls Christians “the Israel of God” and “the circumcision.” God gave circumcision to Abraham as a symbol of belonging to God's people. When Paul refers to all Christians as “the circumcision,” he reminds us that the Kingdom of God and the covenant promises associated with it were taken from the Jews and passed on to spiritual Israel. This new circumcision is not of the body but of the heart.
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder (Matthew 21:43-44).
Actually no. This is historical fact which simply reading Daniel 11 and history it's...undenieable. I don't know if you read the link but this has nothing to do with the counter reformation or Alcazar. Long before Alcasar Jewish history taught this long before him. It's about Hanukkah!You are believing a teaching that came from the counter reformation based on your post.
Luis de Alcasar
Jesuit scholar Luis de Alcasar (preterism’s creator) in 1604. His book, Investigation of the Hidden Sense of the Apocalypse, was published in 1614. Froom states this:
Applying the New Jerusalem to the Catholic Church, Alcazar contended that the Apocalypse describes the twofold war of the church in the early centuries—one with the Jewish synagogue, and the other with paganism—resulting in victory over both adversaries. Revelation 1 to 11 he applied to the rejection of the Jews and the desolation of Jerusalem by the Romans. Revelation 12 to 19 Alcazar allotted to the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the church, the judgment of the great Harlot being effected by the downfall of pagan idolatry; Revelation 20 he applied to the final persecution by Antichrist, and the day of judgment; and chapters 21 and 22, referring to the New Jerusalem, he made descriptive of the glorious and endless triumphant state of the Roman church.v
Futurism and Preterism
It is for anyone who rejected the Gospel of Jesus Thee Christ as it was preached that Jesus IS THEE Messiah ,For Jesus shed His innocent blood to pay the price if sins so that you can be saved from eternal damnation. That it had been preached into all the world that Jesus IS King and people just rejected it2 Thessalonians 2:10-13 [Full Chapter]
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. ...
This verse is not for the hethean but for those that profess to follow Christ in the last days.
Ask yourself WHAT IS THE LIE?
I don't know how you can't discern that the only way they can be grafted back in again is thru accepting Christ like everybody else did. And anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father, period, which is the fact. So you're obviously misinterpreting them. There's nothing outside of the 2nd testament/covenant. So you are definitely preaching the spirit of antichrist doctrine:As the Bible clearly says in Romans 11:25, "do not be ignorant of this mystery..."
I'm well aware of two the Old and New Covenants. Romans 11 concerns both. Branches were broken off so that the Gentiles could be grafted in and God will graft back in the natural branches again. He committed them to disobedience but THEY WILL ONCE AGAIN RECEIVE MERCY when the fullness of the Gentiles is complete (vs.32)
It's one chapter, I don't get how you guys can't discern it. It's reasonable to think you would do this to the rest of the Bible as well. If I remember correctly, I've had conversations with you in the past -- you're also an Amillennialist?
That's the fact of the matter.1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jo 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1Jo 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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1Jo 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jo 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Actions speaks louder than words. I never said you weren't a Christian. I simply pointed out what the scriptures says concerning your actions. So then shall I also call you a deceiver, since you're totally dismissing the facts?I'm in agreement with every word of the Bible, but concerning the End Times, there are many views and I have mine -- The jury is not out yet. You will experience things in the coming months and years that you've never expected -- shall I then call you a deceiver?
You better watch yourself, you are accusing me of not being a Christian! That's against forum rules and although I've never reported anyone who outright attacks my faith ... let this be a warning to you!
LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS, "DON'T BE IGNORANT ..."I don't know how you can't discern that the only way they can be grafted back in again is thru accepting Christ like everybody else did. And anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father, period, which is the fact. So you're obviously misinterpreting them. There's nothing outside of the 2nd testament/covenant. So you are definitely preaching the spirit of antichrist doctrine:
That's the fact of the matter.
What actions?Actions speaks louder than words. I never said you weren't a Christian. I simply pointed out what the scriptures says concerning your actions.
So then shall I also call you a deceiver, since you're totally dismissing the facts?
Romans 9:27 Only A "Remnant" Are Called To Be Saved.LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS, "DON'T BE IGNORANT ..."
H E L L O, the FATHER WILL DRAW THEM TO CHRIST - THAT IS MY DISCERNMENT,
DON'T DISTORT WHAT I SAID. JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, THEY WILL COME TO CHRIST. GOD WILL DRAW THEM, REMOVE THE VEIL OF BLINDNESS AND THEY WILL SEE.
GOD WILL DRAW THEM, REMOVE THE VEIL OF BLINDNESS AND THEY WILL SEE.
I am in agreement with scripture - all of it. You should be to, because you missed on verse 14 where it says they were blinded to this day, the veil remains. And yes, because they are blind, they read Moses and it remains.2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
2Co 3:9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory.
2Co 3:10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels.
2Co 3:11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
2Co 3:12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech—
2Co 3:13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away.
2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Those who refuse to see the New Covenant of Christ, which we are ministers of in verse 6 above, also have a veil over their eyes.
The New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34 is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and the passage above.
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I am in agreement with scripture - all of it. You should be to, because you missed on verse 14 where it says they were blinded to this day, the veil remains. And yes, because they are blind, they read Moses and it remains.
This does support Rom. 11- they are blinded to this day.
Our spiritual selves are neither Greek, nor Jew, nor male or female, we are all in Christ. The Body of Christ spiritual. But this does not negate Old Testament convenants, blood lines. You can't allegorize every convenant and apply it to the natural branches. God is not done with natural Israel. They will be grafted into the spiritual body if Christ. Y oh bring up Jer. 31:34, but fail read "all Israel will be saved", which also supports Rom. 11.
So when they turn to the LORD, it will be an answer to a promise made long ago in Jet. 31. It wasn't fulfilled. The body isn't entirely full yet -- just about though.
I don't understand your resentment and animosity towards a remnant Jewish population - millions that will be drawn to Jesus. ??? This is the spirit of anti-Semitism.
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