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Featured Trump Fulfills Jerusalem Prophecy Today

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by James Honigman, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. James Honigman

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    Did you see the American/Israeli flags projected unto the Western Wall today? For those who might not follow the news, President Trump changed decades of history announcing our recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital today, and his plans to move the American embassy there. That is a huge end time sign taken right out of Ezekiel 37. Turn your Bibles to Ezekiel 37.15; start reading and see if you agree with this explanation.

    The two sticks are For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions. This is the present day occupants of Jerusalem and Israel. The LORD continues to tell Ezekiel to Take another stick, and write upon it, for Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions. This is America, which has historically been the recipient of the 10 northern tribes of Israel, which the LORD scattered 2,700 years ago. Confused?

    For those who do not know their Bibles, allow this brief explanation. When Solomon became king, the 12 tribes of Israel split up, 10 tribes going to the northern parts of Israel and the remaining two staying in and around Jerusalem, southern Israel. 2,700 years ago, our Father (as promised) scattered the 10 northern tribes around the world but mainly concentrated them in Europe. From Europe many of them migrated to America, even Ellis Island at the turn of the last century.

    Of course, by that time the vast majority of them were Christians, having no idea they were descendants of the 10 northern tribes. Let's just say it was much safer to be a Christian than a Jew during the Dark Age. Many American and European Christians today would be shocked, and no doubt dismayed, to find out they were Jewish!

    In any case, President Trump gave us a remarkable end of days sign today when he inadvertently put the sticks of Judah and Joseph back together today. Everyone should understand that the capital of the millennial reign and the eventual throne of God will be in Jerusalem. It is our Heavenly Father's favorite place on earth. For those of you who might not own a Bible (shame on you!) this is how it reads:

    Say unto them, 'Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in Mine hand. Ezekiel 37.19
     
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  2. DavidPT

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    Ezekiel 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
    22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
    23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.


    The prophecy also indicates some of the following. and one king shall be king to them all. I don't think that's quite the case yet. Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. The fact many of them still deny the Son, can't see this portion being true yet, either. The prophecy seems to indicate that once they are gathered in their own land, all of these other things mentioned in these verses will be true as well.

    How you then are concluding Trump fulfills Ezekiel 37.15, when these other things mentioned in the verses that follow, are not even remotely the case as of yet, puzzles me?
     
  3. sfs

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    Very confused.
    Every European who came through Ellis Island was a descendant of the lost 10 tribes. So was every European who stayed in Europe. They're all also descendants of the ancient Greeks and of ancient Germans. If you go back a few thousand years, we're all descended from every group that was around at the time. That's the way genealogy works.
     
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  4. BABerean2

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    It is a part of one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church.

    It is a "Trojan Horse" of the global elite who want Jerusalem to be the capital of their world government.

    In Matthew chapter 21 Christ said that the son is "heir" to the land.
    He also said that the kingdom would be taken from those who reject the "chief cornerstone" and that it would be given to another nation bearing fruit.
    That holy nation is found in 1 Peter 2:4-10.







    The New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34 is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.

    On the day of Pentecost Peter addressed the crowd as "all the house of Israel" in Acts 2:36.
    On that day about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah chapter 31.


    Jer_31:31  "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

    Mat_26:28  For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

    Mar_14:24  And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.

    Luk_22:20  Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

    1Co_11:25  In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

    2Co_3:6  who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

    Heb_8:8  Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH—

    Heb_8:13  In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

    Heb_9:15  And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

    Heb_12:24  to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

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    1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 
    1Jn 2:23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 


    1Ti_1:4  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.


    Tit_3:9  But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.


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  5. Acts2:38

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    Matthew 24:
    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


    And just like that, the false man made doctrine of premillennialism was destroyed, and they who believe in such, came to the full realization that they totally misunderstood the book of Revelation among others like Daniel etc.
     
  6. jgr

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    This announcement certainly appears to be the abomination of the hour, although unsurprising given the early evidence that Trump was simply another Israeli stooge.

    The greatest concern is the implications for the region's Christians.
     
  7. ebedmelech

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    It's the Jerusalem above that is our mother...earthly Jerusalem has historical significance to the world but in my mind there's nothing prophetic in this event...NOTHING!

    Trump simply said it like it should be...Israel has a sovereign right to call Jerusalem their capital, just like every other nation...PERIOD.
     
  8. Truth7t7

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    I disagree that the USA is seen as the companion in prophecy.

    I disagree that God will have a throne, "On This Earth" in Jerusalem.

    However the future Antichrist/Man of Sin will, dont be deceived. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

    Interesting to see devlopment in Israel, in no time the Antichrist will proclaim peace in the world, as the Jews prophetical Messiah.
     
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  9. BABerean2

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    Who created the modern State of Israel?




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    Rom 2:28  For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 
    Rom 2:29  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. 




    Rev_2:9  I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


    Rev_3:9  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

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  10. seventysevens

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    You seem to forget that it is Christ telling of how HIS plan is played out , not something the USA dreamed up , just as God has told us before it happens that it is HE that puts the hook in the mouth of Israels enemies and drags them down to wage war with Israel to Glorify Himself in the sight of men
     
  11. Handmaid for Jesus

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    What about the fulfillment of this prophecy
    Zec.12:1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

    2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

    3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

    4 In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

    5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God.

    6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

    The stage is set for Ezekiel 38. Most people don't see it.
     
  12. BABerean2

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  13. Davy

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    Very much agree on the division of the ten tribes and their scattering to the West. But I don't believe it's mainly about America, but all the traditional western Christian nations, i.e., the "multitude of nations" Ephraim's seed was to become per Gen.48, and the "company of nations" Jacob's seed was to become per Gen.35.

    Also, per my Bible understanding, and per history like Josephus, the title of Jew is the name those who returned from the 70 years Babylon captivity applied to their selves, and to all who lived in the land (Judea). The ten tribes of Israel had already been scattered out of the holy land about 200 years before all that, and thus were never known as Jews. So you might consider greatly multiplying the number of scattered ten tribed "house of Israel" folks living in the Christian west that don't know they have an Israelite heritage that was lost long ago.


     
  14. DavidPT

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    Have you ever tried interpreting that passage in light of the following?


    Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

    Let's do a little comparing.

    I will make them to come and worship before thy feet-----the sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet

    Apparently the sons that afflicted thee, this is meaning them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. What does the text in both passages indicate these will do? come and worship before thy feet----shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet

    Why though, if it is as you seem to be suggesting?


    I notice that when some of you that use this particular passage in Rev_3:9 to show your disgust of these alleged fake Jews living over in the middle east presently, you never seem to want to consider the latter portion of that verse as well, where we are told that these same ones will eventually come and worship before thy feet. You all just want to use the first part to somehow prove these are condemned phonies , even though the passage goes on to say that they will eventually come and worship before thy feet. As does the passage in Isaiah 60 as well.
     
  15. James Honigman

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    I agree with you David. The prophecy is yet future. The one King and God will take place during the millennial reign of Christ and then again at the end of the millennial day when He hands the eternal kingdom over to our Father. I was trying to draw attention to the prophecy with President Trump's declaration of how close America and Israel are to the end. Thanks for the input. James.
     
  16. James Honigman

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    Very good Handmaid, and you are right, very few people see it! The progression of Ezekiel 37, the 2 sticks and the awakening of the "dry bones" to the battle of Hamon Gog in 38 and 39 is not coincidental. Our Father gave us those chapters in chronological order on purpose. By the way, your prophecy about Jerusalem and Israel being surrounded by her enemies is also on target for today. Thanks for the good input. James.
     
  17. James Honigman

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    Your right Davy, but I wanted to keep things simple in my post. All the tribes were scattered by our Father, but the majority of them were scattered into Eastern and Western Europe. Sadly, the vast majority of them were killed in the holocaust, but many had already migrated to America. Praise the LORD. Thanks for the input. James.
     
  18. James Honigman

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    There is so much to say here, but I really don't want to get into it on this post. BUT, let me say this: Revelation 2.9 & 3.9 both teach the same thing, which is why they are the only two churches our Beloved was happy with (Smyrna & Philadelphia). They taught "the synagogue of Satan". Now think about this David: "Jews" as given in those scriptures actually mean, "Residents of Judea". Our people are not the only residents in Judea today. Food for thought. Thanks again. James.
     
  19. BABerean2

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    I have no disgust for any group or nation of people.

    I used the passage in comparison with what Paul said at the end of Romans chapter 2.

    I am disgusted with the actions of many in the modern Church who ignore 1 John 2:22-23 and
    the verses below, and fail to share the Gospel with all races of people.


    The most wicked thing we can do to any group of people is to claim they have a relationship with God outside of Christ.

    1Ti_1:4  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.


    Tit_3:9  But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

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  20. parousia70

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    Which Horses and Riders are these?
     
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