Trump erroneously says 1918 Spanish Flu 'probably ended' WWII, which happened two decades later

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Do the cancel culture think the only reason WW I ended was the triumphant late comer entry of the US into the fray? Yay team. Are these the same people who wish to see horns tooted over a couple of atom bombs given to the USA by God they claimed, and dropped on civilians ended the war while all the Japanese troops were on the other side of the island and soundly defeated by those commie British allied Russians? Guess the financial winners of war like to make their own history and discredit any circumstances that get in the way. Trumps bumbles are far less damaging.
 
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Why? Sickness.

No heroics by British and Australian troops especially at the battle of St Quentin canal which broke through Hindenburgh line. They used tanks and mustard gas and a massive artillery barrage to do it. This was the point when the German high command realised they had lost the war. The Spanish flu started in the USA and was spread to Europe by the American troops. They infected more of their allies than Germans. At one point 3/4s of the French army were off sick with it and half the British. The Aussie/ British penetrationof the Hindenburgh line came despite the "American flu" as a Britain First patriot of the time might have dubbed it.
 
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It pales in comparison to Biden’s racist suggestion that Hispanics have diverse political views and African Americans do not.
Is that because the left has so successfully lead the black vote around by the nose for 50 years by telling them what MLK did had no effect? Why did it take 50 years for many blacks to stand up and say we have made a good life for ourselves (Blexit). Is Biden being persecuted for truth? Are old school political manipulations no longer PC? And how come the new right of Trump seems to resemble the old left. When did the left go from concern for the well being of all to pocketed self interest groups? Just an outside observation.
 
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Is that because the left has so successfully lead the black vote around by the nose for 50 years while reminding them what MLK did had no effect? Is Biden being persecuted for truth?

The African American vote has not been purely Democrat-dominated for the past few election cycles, and was never monolithic in terms of political opinion, and what is more, there have always been African American Republicans, even during the DNC’s peak popularity in the black community.

A good Canadian parallel would be the long period of single party rule by Proctor and Gamble the Progressive Conservatives in Alberta.
 
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A good Canadian parallel would be the long period of single party rule by Proctor and Gamble the Progressive Conservatives in Alberta.
Yes your 51st state where people shoot off shotguns in honour of Cheney and his handbook..
 
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I'll provide that link when you post a link of Obama apologizing for saying there are 57 states.
Two points, 1) I didn't say "apologize" I said "admit and correct"
and 2)
You mean like this? FACT CHECK: Did Barack Obama Say He Had Visited 57 (Islamic) States?
Talking with reporters at a later campaign stop, Senator Obama expressed concern that he’d recently misstated both the number of potential victims of a recent cyclone in Burma and the number of states he’d visited, saying: “I hope I said 100 thousand people the first time instead of 100 million. I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh …”

Quite frankly, there is no need to apologize for an obvious slip of the tongue.
So that would mean: no, he didn't say he misspoke and he didn't correct what he said? Because since he's never once admitted (to my knowledge) A) making a mistake or B) corrected a mistake he's made I'm not actually surprised. Of course the real treat is watching people go into the President Trump waltz where they do their little dance of saying:
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quickly followed by
"PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE REAL VICTIM IN ALL THIS!!" (tm)
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So you wish to make a mount everest over a grain of sand! have at it!
It's sort of interesting that what's considered "standard Republican talking points about Joe Biden" is considered "making a mount everest over a grain of sand" when the foot is in their candidates mouth.

Just remember, Obama campaigned in all 57 states! He said so!
Thank you for reminding everyone how big a deal US Republicans made about someone mispeaking. And even better, how they've been doing so for over 12 years, since that happened in 2008. (Including President Trump who just brought it up in 2018 Trump: 'Fake news media’ didn’t cover when Obama said '57 states' in 2008 )

Politicians like every other person on the planet are guilty of misspeaking from time to time.
That's true.

Only the petty like to stir up a tempest in a teapot over it!
...have you brought this up to President Trump's re-election campaign? Because they (and the Republican Party and the conservatives who support them) seem to think it's a winning strategy for the 2020 presidential campaign.
tulc(is pretty sure they would appreciate hearing how petty their campaign is)
 
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No heroics by British and Australian troops especially at the battle of St Quentin canal which broke through Hindenburgh line. They used tanks and mustard gas and a massive artillery barrage to do it. This was the point when the German high command realized they had lost the war.

They knew they were beaten long before that.

The Last Hundred Days began on August 8, 1918 with an all-out attack on German positions in Amiens. By day’s end, Canadian soldiers had obliterated German defenses and advanced an incredible 13 kilometers. It was the most jaw-dropping allied victory ever seen in the First World War up to that point. For context, it had taken months of fighting and 500,000 dead to gain only eight kilometers of ground at Passchendaele. Up until this point, many First World War battles had followed a predictable pattern: A lengthy artillery barrage followed by fixed-bayonet human wave attacks across no-man’s-land. At Amiens, Canada rolled out a strategy that prioritized speed and unpredictability above all else: Tanks, motorized machine guns, cavalry, storm troopers and intricately timed artillery barrages all thrown at the enemy in a dizzying tidal wave of force. Erich Ludendorff, who by this time had become the effective military dictator of Germany, referred to August 8 as the “black day” of the German army. When General Ludendorf reported to the Kaiser he was asked “We have lost the war haven’t we?” Ludendorf replied simply “Yes sir”. As the Canadian breakout continued relentlessly into the autumn, Canadian Corps commander Arthur Currie would estimate that one quarter of all Germans on the Western Front were being shot at by Canadians. When German troops would sweep back into France in 1940, their new strategy of Blitzkrieg would be an eerily close carbon copy of the tactics that Canadians had used to evict them from France 21 years earlier.
 
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They knew they were beaten long before that.

The Last Hundred Days began on August 8, 1918 with an all-out attack on German positions in Amiens. By day’s end, Canadian soldiers had obliterated German defenses and advanced an incredible 13 kilometers. It was the most jaw-dropping allied victory ever seen in the First World War up to that point. For context, it had taken months of fighting and 500,000 dead to gain only eight kilometers of ground at Passchendaele. Up until this point, many First World War battles had followed a predictable pattern: A lengthy artillery barrage followed by fixed-bayonet human wave attacks across no-man’s-land. At Amiens, Canada rolled out a strategy that prioritized speed and unpredictability above all else: Tanks, motorized machine guns, cavalry, storm troopers and intricately timed artillery barrages all thrown at the enemy in a dizzying tidal wave of force. Erich Ludendorff, who by this time had become the effective military dictator of Germany, referred to August 8 as the “black day” of the German army. When General Ludendorf reported to the Kaiser he was asked “We have lost the war haven’t we?” Ludendorf replied simply “Yes sir”. As the Canadian breakout continued relentlessly into the autumn, Canadian Corps commander Arthur Currie would estimate that one quarter of all Germans on the Western Front were being shot at by Canadians. When German troops would sweep back into France in 1940, their new strategy of Blitzkrieg would be an eerily close carbon copy of the tactics that Canadians had used to evict them from France 21 years earlier.

Typical Canadian perspective.;-) You might have missed a few details like the fact that the British 4th army under Rawlinson which won that battle had 10 British divisions and 5 Australian divisions and only 4 Canadian divisions!!! It was British Tanks and aircraft, artillery and infantry that supported the Aussie and Canadian cavalry breakout. But it is an important fact that this battle and that of Quentin Canal which broke the Hindenburg line was won by British Empire forces while the French and Americans really only had peripheral roles in its success. So despite the myths about the French winning WW1 or the American intervention being the crucial factor it was actually the British Empire forces that won it. Also WW2 arguably the battle of Atlantic, battle of Britain and even El Alamein were the crucial battles which allowed American intervention to be meaningful. But it is harder to claim that the British Empire won that war also, though not impossible.
 
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Hey, Tulc.. .maybe you should post on the mistakes and blatant nonsense that Biden and his team have said and done... you would have far more material for your mud slinging.
...isn't that what the Republicans have been doing for all these months? I thought that was the strategy for 2020: accuse Joe Biden of being "dim" "failing" "not all there", so when people start pointing out just how all those things actually apply to President Trump (who does it live while on television for everyone to see) it sort of begs the question: why is it okay for Republicans and President Trumps supporters to do it but is suddenly "wrong" when someone else does it?
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...isn't that what the Republicans have been doing for all these months? I thought that was the strategy for 2020: accuse Joe Biden of being "dim" "failing" "not all there" ... etc
Perhaps it is time to see the voters as dim and failing rather than the politicians.
 
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