Trump Could Be The Most Honest POTUS In Modern History

[GoldenBoy89]

Yes.

Then he's even more incompetent than I thought. Thankfully.

 

[inquiring mind]

How so?

Reassuring, entertaining, enlightening, encouraging, uplifting, cheering, and comforting... sort of a calming effect.

 

[inquiring mind]

Then he's even more incompetent than I thought. Thankfully.

Well, he's the President... you're not.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Well, he's the President... you're not.

There are still many things to be grateful for.
M-Bob

 

[inquiring mind]

There are still many things to be grateful for.
M-Bob

Yep!

 

[TLK Valentine]

Better than ‘telling a lie about what you intend to do’ in the first place – and then making-up bogus info for any whys that come up.

Well now, that depends on what the real why is... why hide your intentions if they're good?

What president hasn’t felt the need to be popular, even to the point of embellishing things let's say?

There's a difference between embellishing and fabricating...

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Well, he's the President... you're not.

Do you guys ever come up with anything original or do you just take all your talking points directly from Trump?

 

[inquiring mind]

Well now, that depends on what the real why is... why hide your intentions if they're good?

As you said, "Donald doesn't lie about what's he's going to do --"

There's a difference between embellishing and fabricating...

I guess that would fall under 'the eye of the beholder' thing.

 

[inquiring mind]

Do you guys ever come up with anything original or do you just take all your talking points directly from Trump?

We came up with him.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

We came up with him.

We've noticed.

 

[whatbogsends]

There's a truth to this: Donald doesn't lie about what's he's going to do -- he makes up bogus facts and statistics to lie about why he's doing it, and of course, lies about it after the fact to make it seem so much greater than it is (as the article itself shows).

The man needs to be popular, and when he lies (which is still often; make no mistake), it's a means to that end.

Still not really true. All the time we hear Trump refute rumors that he's going to fire X, only to have Trump fire X later that week. He's lied about what he's going to do in situations like that multiple times.

He said he was going to release his taxes after he was elected. He lied about what he was going to do.

He said he was going to sit down with Mueller. He lied about what he was going to do.

There are plenty more examples.

 

[USincognito]

I think it's worthy of two threads at least.

How so?

Reassuring, entertaining, enlightening, encouraging, uplifting, cheering, and comforting... sort of a calming effect.

That response is a rather bizarre non sequitur.

 

[TLK Valentine]

As you said, "Donald doesn't lie about what's he's going to do --"

...just the why... makes me think there's an angle here we're not supposed to see.

A man can do a good thing... and still skim a little off the top for himself... after all, is he not entitled, seeing as how much good he's done?

(And for the record, I don't necessarily agree with everything he promised to do)

I guess that would fall under 'the eye of the beholder' thing.

Not if you're telling whoppers out of whole cloth...

Case in point -- Donald pulled the plug on the Iran nuclear deal, as promised... now, should he have? That's debatable. But certainly the reasons he offered were nonsense. Iran was not in violation of the deal, and Donald has demonstrated (having purchased the Brooklyn Bridge from Russia, North Korea, and now Saudi Arabia), that he can't negotiate a better deal.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Still not really true. All the time we hear Trump refute rumors that he's going to fire X, only to have Trump fire X later that week. He's lied about what he's going to do in situations like that multiple times.

He said he was going to release his taxes after he was elected. He lied about what he was going to do.

He said he was going to sit down with Mueller. He lied about what he was going to do.

There are plenty more examples.

Donald lies to the press... not to his base -- he is honest with the people he needs to follow him without question... and the press asks too many darn questions...

 

[whatbogsends]

Donald lies to the press... not to his base -- he is honest with the people he needs to follow him without question... and the press asks too many darn questions...

Does him telling his supporters at a campaign rally that 200 soldiers have already been returned from North Korea well over a month before they received any bodies count as lying about his actions to his base?

I understand what you're saying. He's been honest to his base that he wasn't going to play along in world politics as past presidents have - although if you break his claim down further, he claims to be tough, yet coddles dictators such as Kim Jong Un and Putin. He's been honest in regards to his Supreme Court appointees. That being said,being honest about your intentions only within certain context hardly puts him in contention for "the most honest POTUS in history".

 

[TLK Valentine]

Does him telling his supporters at a campaign rally that 200 soldiers have already been returned from North Korea well over a month before they received any bodies count as lying about his actions to his base?

I understand what you're saying. He's been honest to his base that he wasn't going to play along in world politics as past presidents have - although if you break his claim down further, he claims to be tough, yet coddles dictators such as Kim Jong Un and Putin. He's been honest in regards to his Supreme Court appointees. That being said,being honest about your intentions only within certain context hardly puts him in contention for "the most honest POTUS in history".

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment... part of me suspects that the article is poking a bit of fun at Donald's tendency for hyperbole...

Not that he'd have read much past the title... an attention span is not one of his virtues.

 

[inquiring mind]

You guys just don’t get it for some reason. These bad boys have been shut down by President Trump. They’re no longer pushing us with nuclear threats, and wouldn’t dare. They’re not buzzing our ships with fly-byes, nor would they for one second consider seizing one of our vessels. They’re not taking our lunch money anymore. What part of standing up to a bully do you not understand? This is going to be really hard for you to grasp, but they respect President Trump, even if you don’t, and you’re much safer whether you realize it or not.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Do you guys ever come up with anything original or do you just take all your talking points directly from Trump?

I don't think they come up with their own talking points. I've heard several of his loyal supporters talk just like him... they use profanity to insult political opponents, they have demeaned women, they have mocked a woman's appearance, they brag about their sexual exploits, they use the same racial slur to insult Elizabeth Warren, they insult and degrade people who disagree with their conservative politics, and they lash out and verbally attack anyone who dares to criticize Trump. I know a few of them who have no problem whatsoever with him groping women or with his multiple affairs.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You guys just don’t get it for some reason. These bad boys have been shut down by President Trump. They’re no longer pushing us with nuclear threats, and wouldn’t dare. They’re not buzzing our ships with fly-byes, nor would they for one second consider seizing one of our vessels. They’re not taking our lunch money anymore. What part of standing up to a bully do you not understand? This is going to be really hard for you to grasp, but they respect President Trump, even if you don’t, and you’re much safer whether you realize it or not.

Cool story, bro... it would appear that appeasement is "standing up" as long as your followers see you talk tough...

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Donald lies to the press... not to his base -- he is honest with the people he needs to follow him without question... and the press asks too many darn questions...

If Donald Trump ran as a Democrat and he won the presidential election as a Democrat, the Christian Religious Right would have attacked him for having multiple affairs, for having an affair with a inappropriate content star and paying her off to silence her, for being in his third marriage to his former mistress, for fathering five children with three different women, for joking about dating his daughter, for bragging about watching young teenage girls getting undressed during a beauty pageant, and for bragging about groping multiple women, including married women. I seriously doubt that they would have called his boastful and egotistical bragging about groping these women 'locker room banter' either.

And how do I know the Christian Religious Right would have attacked Donald Trump for his sexual deviant behavior and his sexual scandals? I know this because they continuously attacked, shamed, and shunned Bill Clinton for his sexual deviant behavior and sexual scandals. But Bill Clinton was a Democratic liberal president and Trump ran his presidential campaign as a Republican conservative.

Just imagine the moral indignation and outrage of the Christian Religious Right if Barack Obama had had the slighest hint of sexual deviant behavior and had sexual scandals as Donald Trump while he was still in the White House. Just imagine the moral indignation and outrage of the Christian Religious Right if Obama had been in his third marriage to a former mistress or if he had had an affair with a inappropriate content star and then paid her off to silence her or if he had joked about dating his daughter or bragged about watching young girls getting undressed or had bragged about groping multiple women.