Trump call to DOJ in Dec 2020: 'Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me'

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It is your opinion. Trump is a just a man saying stuff. In 2012 he tweeted about voter fraud back then. It's always been something he thought was going on in the country. Trump is a vain man and like to troll people's emotions. That who that guy is. That has no bearing on whether or not the USA cheats in voting, but has everything to do with your assigning such an impossibility to something that can't be because Trump said it. Irony does not = fact.
It's not my opinion. I proved for a fact that Trump lied and people believed him. To say Trump 'thought' voter fraud has been something going on in the country since 2012, is presenting an opinion because it's not a definitive statement. However when he claimed the election was rigged if he lost, he used definitive terminology. He didn't say he 'thinks' it was rigged if he loses.

Trump is a just a man saying stuff.
Trump was the President telling his DOJ to lie to America.
 
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I agree that this is info coming from mainstream media.

The document in question was written by acting deputy attorney general Richard Donoghue during the phone call with Trump.

You heard about it through some medium (possibly even this webforum) but the information is coming from someone who was on the phone call.
 
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Pretty sad isn't it? Jimmy Dore is democrat and showed in 2019 how the left media kept talking about Trump's presidency ending. Every month of his presidency like they had any idea. And the fact is, the media lied. They lied about Russia (after left gave Russia 20% of our Uranium), they lied about Ukraine, they lied about Hunter Biden, they tried to impeach Trump twice and back down on the second one because they did not want Pelosi to be interrogated (not to mention introduce doctored evidence for the whole world to see). I would say the proof is, the media lies. If you don't think so, I'd ask you to reconsider because their track record with Trump is miserable.

Wow, you believe it all...

I think you meant "loser," but your Freudian slip I believe is more like it.

Actually, it was a typo -- but given Donald's history of extramarital shenanigans...

I don't believe Biden won because besides it being incredibly obvious that that man does not belong in office,

Baseless opinion.

if Trump were one tenth as lost, the media would be all over him...meanwhile Biden is treated like a queen or princess--since you see Trump as a drama queen....on Biden, why the all the crickets?

Even more baseless opinion.

To me, Biden is president because America is under a spell. Its too obvious in the real world (respectfully).

Doesn't get more baseless than this.

Good, so when we find out that Biden did not win, you'll be good with that, right?

Indeed I will -- but that puts the onus on you to prove that Biden did not, in fact, win. Got anything at least vaguely resembling a plan to actually do that?

A simple "no" will do.
 
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Mercola-level disinformation. Science is whimsical? Sure in alternative-fact world.

I don't distance myself at all. I am no prophet, but I'd say Trump stands a pretty good chance of being the 1st seal. Not AC. Blessings. And by the way..."blessings" was meant as stated...not remotely from around the corner. You can conjecture as much a spin the intentions of others...but what is real is real. Either I'm a loon...or fun's about to happen. History unfolding won't need either of permissions. Again...blessings.
 
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I don't distance myself at all. I am no prophet, but I'd say Trump stands a pretty good chance of being the 1st seal. Not AC.

"I am no prophet" is the truest phrase in this sentence.

Donald's significance in this world is quickly waning -- much to his own rage.
...to imagine that he serves any necessary purpose on a cosmic scale is ludicrous.
 
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Baseless opinion.

The electors don't say baseless.

Even more baseless opinion.

Oh I must be seeing things. But of course, a man like Biden would get more votes than Obama. More votes than any president in American history. America has just been waiting for grandpa. Of course that explains how millions gather around him everywhere which he is lucky if in the thousands. My friend if you call baseless how Biden won the most votes than any US president...wow...can you at least question yourself on that one? lol
 
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Indeed I will -- but that puts the onus on you to prove that Biden did not, in fact, win. Got anything at least vaguely resembling a plan to actually do that?

Lets see how voter fraud fairs between now and Christmas. Maybe your answer would be even Christmas morning. But for now. We have voter fraud interest in several states beyond AZ. Granted...if there is nothing there...I'll gladly say...ok...i was wrong. Never mind. lol. But right now we have voter fraud interests. In several states. And they are just getting started. I would say that one piece of evidence is a) why won't Dominion give up their records? And b) how in the world can we certify a company to do voting for the people of America if we cant see their records. You don't have a problem with that?
 
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Lets see how voter fraud fairs between now and Christmas. Maybe your answer would be even Christmas morning.

so what is your new date for him being back in office after this mysterious evidence is found?

last date I heard was august 13
 
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so what is your new date for him being back in office after this mysterious evidence is found?

last date I heard was august 13
Friday August 13, 2021. :ebil:
 
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the left gave Russia 20% of our Uranium

You're lying here. This never happened.

they lied about Ukraine

No, that was Trump trying to cheat n the election.

they lied about Hunter Biden

You mean the Republicans, right?

I don't believe Biden won because besides it being incredibly obvious that that man does not belong in office

It doesn't matter what you believe. If you have evidence of fraud, produce it.

Good, so when we find out that Biden did not win, you'll be good with that, right?

Bring it.
 
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He didn't say he 'thinks' it was rigged if he loses.

I happen to think he was correct. But that is besides the point. Other than that, see it was that statement that he made on top of all the other republicans abandoning him where I thought he would lose for sure. And sure enough, that kind of rhetoric got him elected. I see that as game theory. Something a person says for effect. Apparently it won the vote. Like I said a showman. I perceive it as somewhat weak my friend to use a showman statement that won an election as a basis for how someone lies. By the way i think Trump certainly does bloviate. But he uses it for effect most of the time. I've seen him where he has not used it to his advantage, but they seem to be fewer times than how he uses it for effect is what I am saying. It's mostly game theory...at least that statement.

Trump was the President telling his DOJ to lie to America.

Now this is something I am looking into. And I think it is a reasonable thing to bring up actually being who said it. But most of the things said about Trump is crafted by the left. You might have had the experience? Are you aware this even happens? lol. I'm seriously asking because they are like infatuated with doing it incase it has escaped your notice. My take is it sound too much like when he wanted to send a nuclear weapon into a hurricane. But lets see how valid or real this hearsay is. The reason we have open borders and no illegal accountability on COVID while the USA get scolded by the medical mafia is because sex trafficking and drugs make politicians who don't care about the country money. Cuba can't bring that...so we don't take their ships. The globalists (i.e. so helpful border protection) pay a lot to say things about Trump. That is what it smells like to me.
 
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The document in question was written by acting deputy attorney general Richard Donoghue during the phone call with Trump.

You heard about it through some medium (possibly even this webforum) but the information is coming from someone who was on the phone call.

I love you man. Thanks for your sober and kind demeaner. But so was Ukraine, only that was official print (not side nots on a napkin). And still...just look what they did with that call. Do you remember the hearings? lol. Wow. There is so much more you can do with men writing on napkins. Just saying. Blessings.
 
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Wow, you believe it all....
Yes I believe when they went for their second shameless impeachment Justice Roberts wanted nothing to do with, they ran like scared little school girls when it got too real for them. What a way to Trump a bogus desperate impeachment. Of course I believe they did not succeed. Maybe in some alternative universe they won.
 
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Donald's significance in this world is quickly waning -- much to his own rage.
...to imagine that he serves any necessary purpose on a cosmic scale is ludicrous.

Something tells me that if you were president for four years and had non stop constant harrassment you would not been such a calm little cookie. In fact, I cant think of anyone that would last through all of that unless you were a huge narcissist...which fortunately gave Trump the supernatural edge of surviving a a presidency so patiently. No normal person survives that. I have a feeling time will shortly reveal you to be a bit mistaken, if history has anything to say about it. Recent history. How soon we forget. :(
 
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People still believe the election was stolen? Really?

even after several judges (many appointed by trump himself) ruled otherwise? After many recounts?

Trump won a lot in court they won't hand feed us in the media. They keep a tight ship to help our bias. But the reality is he did win quite a few cases. The Supreme Court were just chicken. I don't need to argue this though...from a political science view, this voter fraud thing is just getting started. If it fails it fails, amen. But I have a feeling this is one of those things that just won't go away anytime soon. The party is probably just getting started. We'll have to wait and see. But certainly a move must be busted certainly prime to 2022 game time. If not, there is no point. And the nay sayers can have their socialistic globalistic biological men winning women's competition country. Sad to say.
 
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You're lying here. This never happened.

Why would you believe Wiki about Uranium One:

A conspiracy theory launched during the 2016 presidential election campaign accused Bill Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, Hillary Clinton, the Obama administration, high level officials in Russia, the State Department, Uranium One, and the FBI of allegedly compromising national-security interests, bribery, and suppressing evidence.[31][32][33] All parties have denied the accusations, and no evidence of wrongdoing has been found after five years of allegations, an FBI investigation, a House Intelligence Committee inquiry, and the 2017 appointment by the Justice Department of the U.S. Attorney in Utah, John Huber, to evaluate the FBI investigation.[31][32][33][34][35] Huber's inquiry ended in January 2019 without any findings of consequence.[35]

When by that same standards, the dems lied about Russia, Russia, Russia. Ok, so no Uranium One and no Russia Russia Russia. But what do we do with kill American oil production and Russian Pipeline Joey? What do we do with that? It's kind of just like totally in our faces on a daily based man.
 
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It doesn't matter what you believe. If you have evidence of fraud, produce it.

Oh its coming.

And about Hunter, yeah laptop confirmed signed by Hunter by expert under their admin. Plus Hunter lied about no drug gun purchase, been under investigation for taxes, dad got in compromising photos proving dad did know about Ukraine. But yeah must be conservatives lying. Hunter's a saint. And we know how great a job dad's doing for America with a backwards K.
 
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I happen to think he was correct. But that is besides the point. Other than that, see it was that statement that he made on top of all the other republicans abandoning him where I thought he would lose for sure. And sure enough, that kind of rhetoric got him elected. I see that as game theory. Something a person says for effect. Apparently it won the vote. Like I said a showman. I perceive it as somewhat weak my friend to use a showman statement that won an election as a basis for how someone lies. By the way i think Trump certainly does bloviate. But he uses it for effect most of the time. I've seen him where he has not used it to his advantage, but they seem to be fewer times than how he uses it for effect is what I am saying. It's mostly game theory...at least that statement.
What type of reasoning would vote for Napoleon Dynamite because he said "If you vote for me all your wildest dreams will come true?"



Now this is something I am looking into. And I think it is a reasonable thing to bring up actually being who said it. But most of the things said about Trump is crafted by the left. You might have had the experience? Are you aware this even happens? lol. I'm seriously asking because they are like infatuated with doing it incase it has escaped your notice. My take is it sound too much like when he wanted to send a nuclear weapon into a hurricane. But lets see how valid or real this hearsay is. The reason we have open borders and no illegal accountability on COVID while the USA get scolded by the medical mafia is because sex trafficking and drugs make politicians who don't care about the country money. Cuba can't bring that...so we don't take their ships. The globalists (i.e. so helpful border protection) pay a lot to say things about Trump. That is what it smells like to me.
I listen and evaluate a candidates words and not the spin. Cynicism and constructive criticism are not the same thing.
 
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