Trump Border Wall National Emergency Stands as The House Fails To Override Trump's Veto

[TLK Valentine]

Indeed? Then why aren’t the Democrats happier?

Because like most things that the GOP does, this one is going to drag the rest of the country down with them.

 

[thecolorsblend]

Because like most things that the GOP does, this one is going to drag the rest of the country down with them.

No problem, right? The permanent Democrat majority that’s coming soon can just fix the country later on, right?

 

[TLK Valentine]

No problem, right? The permanent Democrat majority that’s coming soon can just fix the country later on, right?

Sounds like the sort of thing that might warrant a national emergency...

 

[thecolorsblend]

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[TLK Valentine]

Why would a national emergency need to be declared with a permanent Democrat majority? Surely all the Democrats need to do is accuse somebody of sexual harassment or ban cow farts or something, right?

You would allow such people to come to power?

 

[thecolorsblend]

You would allow such people to come to power?

Saving the world isn’t my job.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Saving the world isn’t my job.

Donald thinks saving America is his. Surely you will cheer when he saves it from those Democrats.

 

[wing2000]

Which law? The emergency declaration law or the immigration law?

There is nothing wrong with what Trump did. There are countless thousands of people crossing the border illegally. Something should be done about it. And if the Congress thinks he did something egregious they can overrule him.

...but as we see, the GOP congressmen don't have the courage to vote against Trump. Trump is basically saying that he, as President, can redirect funds to the border...funds that are already authorized and specified by the Congress. That's a direct violation of the Constitution.

 

[wing2000]

One example wherein Congress is being bypassed for reallocation of defense dollars (there are other defense areas that will be tapped as well):

The Pentagon announced Monday night that it has authorized the transfer of up to $1 billion to the Army Corps of Engineers to build additional barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border, a move that drew sharp objections from Democratic lawmakers.

The shift in funds, which the Pentagon justified under President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency at the southern border, will facilitate the construction of 57 miles of “pedestrian fencing,” road construction and lighting along stretches of the border in Arizona and Texas.

The money, according to top Pentagon officials, was shifted from the Army after recruiters failed to hit targets that would have required the funds.

Ten senators, including Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.), the top Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, objected to the move, saying in a letter that the Pentagon had not sought approval of congressional defense committees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8b7525a8d5f_story.html?utm_term=.24f074991c54

 

[HTacianas]

...but as we see, the GOP congressmen don't have the courage to vote against Trump. Trump is basically saying that he, as President, can redirect funds to the border...funds that are already authorized and specified by the Congress. That's a direct violation of the Constitution.

The GOP congressmen don't want to vote against Trump on this. I could just as easily say the dem reps don't have the courage to vote against Nancy Pelosi.

And the matter is not unconstitutional. Anyone telling you that is lying to you. A law passed by the Congress grants the president the authority to do what he is doing. The Congress can overrule him. They didn't.

 

[HTacianas]

...but as we see, the GOP congressmen don't have the courage to vote against Trump. Trump is basically saying that he, as President, can redirect funds to the border...funds that are already authorized and specified by the Congress. That's a direct violation of the Constitution.

The GOP congressmen don't want to vote against Trump on this. I could just as easily say the dem reps don't have the courage to vote against Nancy Pelosi.

And the matter is not unconstitutional. Anyone telling you that is lying to you. A law passed by the Congress grants the president the authority to do what he is doing. The Congress can overrule him. They didn't.

 

[wing2000]

The GOP congressmen don't want to vote against Trump on this. I could just as easily say the dem reps don't have the courage to vote against Nancy Pelosi.

And the matter is not unconstitutional. Anyone telling you that is lying to you. A law passed by the Congress grants the president the authority to do what he is doing. The Congress can overrule him. They didn't.

The Constitution places the power of the purse in Congress: “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law . . .” In specifying the activities on which public funds may be spent, Congress defines the contours of federal power. This requirement of legislative appropriation before public funds are spent is at the foundation of our constitutional order.

https://constitutioncenter.org/inte...priations-clause-article-i-section-9-clause-7

 

[HTacianas]

The Constitution places the power of the purse in Congress: “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law . . .” In specifying the activities on which public funds may be spent, Congress defines the contours of federal power. This requirement of legislative appropriation before public funds are spent is at the foundation of our constitutional order.

Appropriations Clause By Kate Stith - Appropriations Clause

"In specifying the activities on which public funds may be spent, Congress defines the contours of federal power"

The Congress has already spoken on this and has passed a law granting the president the authority to declare an emergency and to reappropriate funds in support of it.

 

[cow451]

Which law? The emergency declaration law or the immigration law?

There is nothing wrong with what Trump did. There are countless thousands of people crossing the border illegally. Something should be done about it. And if the Congress thinks he did something egregious they can overrule him.

The fake emergency Trump declared. Immigration law needs work. Trump should act like a President and not like a whiny crybaby.

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread is closed. There is too much flaming.

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