Trump announces Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy to lead new ‘Department of Government Efficiency’

[Aldebaran]

After all of Elons efforts...... this?

I would have picked him for something meaningful. Like Ambassador to Mars.

As a businessman, he's shown success at efficiency. With SpaceX, he's been able as a commercial venture to outdo NASA at their own game. NASA is how space is done the government's way. SpaceX is how it's done more efficiently. NASA is not making anymore breakthroughs, but SpaceX is.

If he knows how to do it as a businessman for his own company, I'd love to see what he can do for the biggest budget in the world.

 

[durangodawood]

As a businessman, he's shown success at efficiency. With SpaceX, he's been able as a commercial venture to outdo NASA at their own game. NASA is how space is done the government's way. SpaceX is how it's done more efficiently. NASA is not making anymore breakthroughs, but SpaceX is.

If he knows how to do it as a businessman for his own company, I'd love to see what he can do for the biggest budget in the world.

I have a lot of respect for Elons aptitude and effort in various arenas. At the same time hes a bit of a kook and a liar.

I'm curious to see what He and Vivek hav in mind. Id like to see this succeed. But this has the vibe of another Trump latest great idea that fizzles out into nothing.

 

[Aldebaran]

I have a lot of respect for Elons aptitude and effort in various arenas. At the same time hes a bit of a kook and a liar.

I'm curious to see what He and Vivek hav in mind. Id like to see this succeed. But this has the vibe of another Trump latest great idea that fizzles out into nothing.

Thomas Edison and Howard Hughes were both seen as eccentric as well. Albert Einstein didn't even finish High School. Dropped out at age 15.
The actual track record of all these men should be seen as more important than their personalities. Same can be said for Trump.

 

[durangodawood]

Thomas Edison and Howard Hughes were both seen as eccentric as well. Albert Einstein didn't even finish High School. Dropped out at age 15.
The actual track record of all these men should be seen as more important than their personalities. Same can be said for Trump.

Im just not into clear liars getting into positions of public accountability.

Youre right about eccentricity tho. I should not hold Elons psylocybin use against him, for instance.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Your question was predicated on a false premise.

It's a free country. Let's see how it goes.

When Trump and the Republicans had control of both chambers of Congress for two years, how much pork did they cut?

Did they have the position they are creating?

Did they have Musk? I believe he was still a Democrat at that point.

Did they have Vivek?

That is why it is a NEW office. Something that did not exist before.

Hard to compare with something that didn’t exist.

 

[essentialsaltes]

That is why it is a NEW office. Something that did not exist before.

Hard to compare with something that didn’t exist.

See, you did great.

Anyway, whether an office or two exists or not, the budget and appropriations (including the pork) are the sole domain of the Congress.

 

[Aldebaran]

See, you did great.

Anyway, whether an office or two exists or not, the budget and appropriations (including the pork) are the sole domain of the Congress.

But not if Trump wanted to forgive student loans, or maybe other types as well.

 

[QvQ]

Trump, you can give him the world and he will drop it on his foot.
Now he is appointing his razor thin majority in the House to Cabinet posts, likely giving the Democrats that majority
And Kari Lake, so many candidates Trump endorsed who can not get elected.

 

[essentialsaltes]

But not if Trump wanted to forgive student loans, or maybe other types as well.

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law

The money for the loans was appropriated by Congress.

I leave to the courts to decide about the legality of various types of loan forgiveness, but no money is drawn from the Treasury when a loan is ripped up.

 

[Aldebaran]

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law

The money for the loans was appropriated by Congress.

I leave to the courts to decide about the legality of various types of loan forgiveness, but no money is drawn from the Treasury when a loan is ripped up.

The courts already did that twice.
So it looks like Trump might be able to ignore the courts as well.

 

[Vambram]

See, you did great.

Anyway, whether an office or two exists or not, the budget and appropriations (including the pork) are the sole domain of the Congress.

Not exactly the sole domain of the Congress. I know that you remember that the President has veto power as well.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Nothing yet, but assigning two bosses to the department focused on efficiency isn't exactly an auspicious start.

You can think of no efficient duos?

 

[Laodicean60]

You can think of no efficient duos?

Tom and Jerry

 

[RocksInMyHead]

You can think of no efficient duos?

Can you? But what does that have to do with anything? Two people in charge is not what I think of when someone talks about creating an efficient organization.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Tom and Jerry

Iconic? Sure. Efficient?!?

 

[Laodicean60]

Iconic? Sure. Efficient?!?

Not sure if efficient, I'd have to work there.

 

[Laodicean60]

Tom and Jerry

BTW, I meant Ben and Jerry, not my favorite childhood cartoon.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Not sure if efficient, I'd have to work there.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Can you? But what does that have to do with anything? Two people in charge is not what I think of when someone talks about creating an efficient organization.

My parents pulled it off just fine.

 

[Aldebaran]

Can you? But what does that have to do with anything? Two people in charge is not what I think of when someone talks about creating an efficient organization.

Would you rather have just 1 person making all the decisions? Wouldn't that be fascistic?