Trump and Kim hold talks in Hanoi having first dinner together

Seeing these talks as?

  • Very positive

    Votes: 4 12.9%
  • Hopeful

    Votes: 1 3.2%
  • Doubtful

    Votes: 10 32.3%
  • Total waste of time

    Votes: 16 51.6%

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Mountainmanbob

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I would pay hard cash to see you and your fellow Trump supporter's reactions if President Obama had been the one who had said that.

Obama did not have a clue he left the North Korean Hot Mess for Trump and even told him so on the way out.
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Art of the deal Knowing When to Walk.
It ain't rocket science.
Well maybe for some here it is.
M-Bob

I see....and part of this “art” is giving up verification of denuclearisation...?

And agreeing that there was “no hurry” to denuclearise...?

Some artwork you got there....:doh:
 
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Art of the deal Knowing When to Walk.
It ain't rocket science.
Well maybe for some here it is.
M-Bob

The art of the deal should have a section about reasonable expectations. We are never going to get a "deal" with North Korea that includes their dismantling their nuclear program.

Surprise surprise, the country that we threatened with nuclear war just a year ago is the same country that refuses to give up their nuclear weapons??? Who would have thunk??? :doh:

We could give NK 100% of everything they want and they still would not give up their nuclear weapons. Obama knew just as everyone but Trump knows... NK has one and only one commodity to trade on... and that is their instability. They have been trading on "the threat of their developing a nuclear program" for decades. And decades from now, they will still be trading on it...

Obama did not have a clue he left the North Korean Hot Mess for Trump and even told him so on the way out.
M-Bob

So, prior to Obama NK did not have nuclear weapons?
Prior to Obama NK did not engage in saber rattling?
Prior to Obama the US and NK had a great relationship?

I know i know, it is much easier to save face by changing history and warping reality rather than deal with the truth.

The Truth is President Trump got played on the world stage by a tin pot dictator.

Funny, Trump goes to NK and tries to make a deal after threatening nuclear war... and GOP types support him.

Obama actually makes a deal with Iran, a deal that our European allies supported, and the Neo Conservatives in the US and Trump tore that deal up???

Gotta be honest, GOP is not looking all that good right now, looks like they have no clue on how to engage in global politics.

You can try to spin this any way you like, but there is too much egg on Trump's face on this one to "explain away".
 
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Obama did not have a clue he left the North Korean Hot Mess for Trump and even told him so on the way out.
M-Bob

If Obama had complimented Kim and the NK state, you guys would have been calling him a traitor and howling for his impeachment. You know how I know this? Because Obama DID once say he would be willing to meet with Kim, and the response from the right was brutal. The same people praising Trump now were shouting about how weak and appeasing Obama was just for suggesting it.
 
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The Truth is President Trump got played on the world stage by a tin pot dictator.

Funny, Trump goes to NK and tries to make a deal after threatening nuclear war... and GOP types support him.
Seen any NoKo missles over Japan lately?

Obama actually makes a deal with Iran, a deal that our European allies supported, and the Neo Conservatives in the US and Trump tore that deal up???
Where was I reading about a president being played by a tin-pot dictator?
 
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Obama sure did see a lot of rockets flying out of North Korea.

Anybody seen any lately?

Why would we be seeing any ? North Korea has gotten all the fruits of these useless talks.

Prestige, proganda for the masses, humbling USA, being treated as equals. They are fine for now refining and upgrading their nuclear cababilities.

The missiles will come out later. Perhaps they will wait for less volatile and stupid actor in the White House, but nothing has changed and it is pretty naive to pretend anything of substance has come out of these "elevated" talks that are apparently not in any hurry to actually achieve anything.
 
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What a morning joke reading some of the replies here on this thread.

Stop scaring the little children and the poor goats.

Kim expected too much and Trump walked. If Trump would not have walked now we would be hearing how he got taken in by Kim.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

The general public with a little bit of sense is laughing at you all. You are so predictable.

Anti Trump no matter what.

If Trump walked on water you would say it was a bad thing.

If Trump stopped all of the poverty in the world you would say that ain't Fair.

M-Bob
 
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What a morning joke reading some of the replies here on this thread.

Stop scaring the little children and the poor goats.

Kim expected too much and Trump walked. If Trump would not have walked now we would be hearing how he got taken in by Kim.

He already did -- expecting Kim to give up his nukes was a sucker bet.

If Trump walked on water you would say it was a bad thing.

We're not the ones expecting him to walk on water.

If Trump stopped all of the poverty in the world you would say that ain't Fair.

Luckily Donald has no intention of stopping poverty anywhere.
 
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Well Jim you have proven yourself to be a clown bully so what do you expect?
M-Bob

Insofar as he bullies clowns, or that he clowns with bullies?

Either way, no wonder Donald's scared of him.
 
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Obama did not have a clue he left the North Korean Hot Mess for Trump and even told him so on the way out.
M-Bob

Donald should have listened.

Oh, well -- some people only learn the hard way, and others don't learn at all.
 
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The Truth is President Trump got played on the world stage by a tin pot dictator.

.....and his loyalist still have not figured out they are willing victims to the biggest con job in our nation's history.
 
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By popular demand your favorite by fair and balanced Fox News.

NO DEAL: President Trump abruptly walked away from negotiations with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Vietnam with no deal and headed back to Washington, saying the U.S. is unwilling to meet Kim's' demand of lifting all sanctions on the rogue regime without first securing its meaningful commitment to denuclearization ... Trump, speaking in Hanoi, said the U.S. asked Kim to do more regarding his intentions to denuclearize and “he was unprepared to do that.” “Sometimes you have to walk,” Trump said.
 
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