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True Or False?

Discussion in 'The Junk Drawer' started by Beautyinsteadofashes, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. Beautyinsteadofashes

    Beautyinsteadofashes Well-Known Member Supporter

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    TRUE or FALSE

    The less time we spend on our relationship with God, the less time He spends on us.

    *Support answer WITH SCRIPTURE
     
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    St_Worm2 Senior Member Supporter

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    Hmm, this passage comes to mind, but it's probably what you're actually looking for. Also, sorry for positing such a long passage, but I thought the content was helpful in this case. Take special note of the text in bold, particularly v28, if you want to skip reading the rest.

    Romans 1
    18 The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
    19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
    20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
    21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
    23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
    24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
    25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
    27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
    28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.​

    Yours and His,
    David
    p.s. - it seems to me that with Christians, the Lord may actually have to spend more time working with those of us who stray, because He promised to see ALL of His elect safely through this life to Glory, and to grow us in Christlikeness along the way .. e.g. Philippians 1:6; 2:13; Hebrews 7:25, 12:7-11; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 John 5:13. The question has to be this however, since God uses the fittest means possible to help His 'faithful' saints remain vigilant (by keeping our eyes off of this world and on the next one instead), do any of us really want face what He's going to have to do to return us to the flock when we've strayed? I believe there is also a point where He will all but withdraw from directly/personally disciplining an errant believer, a point where He allows 'someone else' take over the job .. cf 1 Corinthians 5:5 :eek:
     
  3. Doug Melven

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    I don't think the answer is a simple true or false.
    Philippians 2:12-13 Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who works in you.
    That would seem to say that as much time as you spend on your relationship with God, God will work in you as much as you will let Him.

    Then we have Hebrews 7:25.
    He (Jesus) is able to save to the uttermost those who cone unto God by Him, for He ever lives to make intercession for them.
    And Romans 5:20
    But where sin abounds, grace abounds much more.
     
  4. Beautyinsteadofashes

    Beautyinsteadofashes Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I read that passage from Romans not to long ago actually. (Not intending to sound like a smart mouth, just making a statement).
    I wouldn’t put myself quite in the same category. I still acknowledge God. I think about Him daily. I pray. (Not nearly enough! Certainly not “without ceasing”) I don’t worship creatures or other such things in His place. BUT, am I giving Him the attention I should be? No. And I’m not reading The Word as much as I should. (Painful to admit). This has led me to wonder if because I do not offer Him much of my time, perhaps He will not offer me much of His.
    In regards to working more with those who stray, that makes sense to me. I know He desires that none shall perish. (Hopefully that’s the correct spelling “perish”) Also He goes after the one lost sheep out of the 99 and rejoices when they return to Him. I can’t think of the exact verses.
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    I think perhaps a good cross reference to that verse in Philippians is in Deuteronomy 30 where we are told we are given the choice between life and death so that we may choose life. “Work out your own salvation” “choose life”. To me they are saying the same thing.
    Maybe also, in Philippians 2:12-12 it’s saying that when we choose Him, He can then work in us. (Putting in my own words). But I’m not sure that this says that the more thought and time we give Him, the more thought and time He gives us. Or vice versa, the less time we give, the less He gives. But that we do have to acknowledge Him.
     
  5. Beautyinsteadofashes

    Beautyinsteadofashes Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The verse “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” Comes to mind. Since He wouldn’t forsake us, it would then make sense that He wouldn’t decide to ignore us when we don’t devote the time to Him which He deserves. Really, it would be sort of vindictive. “Well, you’re ignoring Me so I’ll ignore you!” That’s how we at times respond to one another. But God is merciful. And loving. And full of grace. Even though we are undeserving.
     
  6. SkyWriting

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  7. Doug Melven

    Doug Melven Well-Known Member

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    You can't imagine how much God loves you, literally, you can't imagine it. Ephesians 3:19 says His love for us is beyond knowing,
    Psalms 40:5 says that the number of thoughts God has for you can't be declared, there are so many.
    If you make it a point each day to see God's love for you in His Word, you will be in awe of how much He loves you and in return you will love Him and want to spend time with Him.
     
  8. tulc

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    If He's with us everywhere He must think of us everywhere as well, right? :scratch:
    tulc(always liked this one) :wave:
     
  9. JCFantasy23

    JCFantasy23 In a Kingdom by the Sea. Staff Member Administrator Supporter CF Senior Ambassador Angels Team

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    I've heard that quote, but I never cared for it because it makes the relationship feel conditional on God's side instead of unconditional like it is, and it's also giving us too much control of the relationship's direction.
     
  10. brinny

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    It is "us" who forsakes Him.

    And no, He's not vindictive or "petty" and petulant. That would be "sin", wouldn't it?

    If we forsake God, it is "us" that is in question, not God.

    We are admonished to examine our hearts.

    Amen?
     
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  11. Daniel Marsh

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    False, God disciplines his children. Odds are one is not spending time with God when he needs to discipline them.
     
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  12. Ron Gurley

    Ron Gurley What U See is What U Get!

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    Time in the mind of God is incalcuable.

    Time with God is realized only in spiritual prayer and praise and worship?

    John 4:24 (NASB)
    24 God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship (Him) in spirit and truth.”
     
  13. Dave-W

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    2 Timothy 2:13
    If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.
     
  14. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    God is outside of time. He wrote the book of our life before we were even born. Our angels read our book so they can help us to be the person God wants us to be. Also the Holy Spirit is our Guide and our Teacher.
     
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  15. Shempster

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    The less time we spend on God results in more mental and physical problems which "should" cause us to go to God. Unfortunately, most of us run to a book, a teacher or the doctor to deal with it all.
     
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