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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Clintjohnson, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. Clintjohnson

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    Hi, I am new here and a new Christian. I wanted to know about the trinity. People say the 3 persons of the trinity are equal. My opinion at the moment is that the Father is at the top of the trinity over the son and holy spirit. Is this wrong to believe.
     
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  2. David Neos

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    What do you mean by "at the top"?
     
  3. Clintjohnson

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    Are they 3 different forms of one God? With one mind? Sorry I'm thinking is there a hierarchy? (If spelled right)
     
  4. David Neos

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    3 persons, one God. Of the same essence, same will, coequal and coeternal. The Son was begotten of the Father before all Ages, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.
     
  5. Gracia Singh

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    I went through a period of believing this, too. Coming to trust and confess the Church's perennial confession of the Trinity has been a journey.

    The Father does give instruction to the Son, and the Son sends the Spirit, yet all are fully God, in nature.

    These articles might be of some help;

    Explaining the Trinity

    The Trinity
     
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  6. Clintjohnson

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    Thanks. Will look at those links.
     
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    There have been various analogies to understand the trinity. We're made in the image of God with a mind, body and spirit. And so one could associate the mind of God as the Father. Our mind commands our body. If we intend to say something the idea is formulated in our mind and then expressed in our word, or in God's case what is in God's mind is expression through the Word of God. "The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word." Heb 1:3 One could like the relationship between the Father and the Son of God as that between the sun as an object in space 93 million miles away from us, and the light that comes from the sun, which travels all the way to earth. When we look at the sun we're actually looking at the light that comes from the sun and calling that that sun. Kind of like when Jesus said "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father" John 14:9. Our body is to be subordinate to our mind. So also with the Son of God.

    Jesus said, "the Father is greater than I." John 14:28

    Joh 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

    Joh 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

    John 14:24 These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

    Luke 22:42 saying, "Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done."

    Even the terms Son and Father have a hierarchical concept.

    As for the Spirit, again he's subordinate to the Father
    Joh 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
    But at times subordinate to the Son
    John 15:26 But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.
    And at times he leads the Son
    Mt 4:1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
    But he's never spoken of as commanding the Father.

    Many will say that Jesus' subordinate role only lasted during his earthly ministry, but actually his eternal role has subordination in it. He is the Word of God. Before his incarnation God sent him. And after his ascension it is the Father again who gives him the authority to judge. "For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead." Acts 17:31 and he said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." Mt 28:18 Why would it have to be given to him if he was in charge to begin with?
     
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  8. Clintjohnson

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    That makes a lot of sense.
     
  9. Of the Kingdom

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    Trinitarianism is a very difficult doctrine to understand in a balanced way. Since there is only one God, there is no basis for a hierarchy; yet there are distinctions.

    As a relatively new Christian, I suggest you should not be too concerned about the details. As you advance in understanding of the Christian faith, you will encounter many views including some who make the three persons too separate, leading toward Tritheism -- as though there were a committee of three independent gods -- or too indistinguishable, leading toward Modalism -- as though God was one person, choosing one of three forms to manifest himself in.

    The single best scripture I've found for finding a balanced understanding is John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word [shown to be Jesus by verse 14], and the Word was *with* God, and the Word *was* God."

    Simultaneously, Jesus is shown to be distinct from the Father, yet of the same essence.

    With: distinct from, yet not separated from.
    Was: of the same essence.

    No words seem to do justice to God's actual nature, including mine, which I recognize as my best shot, although probably still misleading.
     
  10. Clintjohnson

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    I think I would say I am more a trinitarianist. But I am still searching and wondering about whether or not evangelicals believe in a triune God?
     
  11. Of the Kingdom

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    To my knowledge, almost all evangelical creeds accept the Nicean creed, and the Nicean creed attempts to provide the very definition of what the triune God is. The wording they use is that God is one *substance* but also is three *persons*. They chose these words carefully to combat the wrong ideas they had to deal with in their day.

    I am not entirely happy with the words they used, but I'm not convinced I can do better. I think perhaps one being sounds better than one substance in English. I am not entirely happy with the term 'persons', but neither have I found any reasonable substitute. I have considered personality or even the phrase 'center of consciousness', but found neither to be an improvement.
     
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  12. Michael Collum

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    They do on paper, (based on most statements of faith I've read) but the trinity is a difficult concept to discuss in an individualistic culture. People may say they believe in the trinity, but when they explain what this trinity is .. it can vary.
     
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    Clint,

    I recommend a thorough reading of Johns works. Start with the Gospel of John, then go through the epistles of John.

    Don’t read them just yet for doctrine other than understanding the Trinity.

    When you have accomplished that... jump to the book of Galatians and move slow through it... Cross referencing each of the points you don’t understand by googling the verse or passage (series of verses in question)... followed by the word Cross Reference.

    Find 3 translations of scripture you like.

    A paraphrase for easy reading and topical understanding.

    A literal translation for specificity and deeper study.

    A Modern translation that is literal but conformed more towards your way of speaking.... for daily study.

    Use the Internet because it’s all there.

    Do NOT use Commentaries! Stick with Cross References, Interlinear Searches (Of verses)... “example... Romans 4:1-6 Interlinear” in google.

    Concordances.... Word in question plus the word concordance in google.

    For deep translation comparison... (Example Romans 4:1-6 Parallel)


    All Love in Jesus Christ to you.

    1 John 2:27... Believe it!
     
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  14. Athanasius377

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    The Irish Twins can help:

     
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    The Athanasian Creed, one of the three ecumenical creeds:


    Whoever desires to be saved must, above all, hold the catholic faith.

    Whoever does not keep it whole and undefiled will without doubt perish eternally.

    And the catholic faith is this,

    that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in unity, neither confusing the persons nor dividing the substance.

    For the Father is one person, the Son is another, and the Holy Spirit is another.

    But the Godhead of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is one: the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.

    Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit:

    the Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, the Holy Spirit uncreated;

    the Father infinite, the Son infinite, the Holy Spirit infinite;

    the Father eternal, the Son eternal, the Holy Spirit eternal.

    And yet there are not three Eternals, but one Eternal,

    just as there are not three Uncreated or three Infinites, but one Uncreated and one Infinite.

    In the same way, the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, the Holy Spirit almighty;

    and yet there are not three Almighties but one Almighty.

    So the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God;

    and yet there are not three Gods, but one God.

    So the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, the Holy Spirit is Lord;

    and yet there are not three Lords, but one Lord.

    Just as we are compelled by the Christian truth to acknowledge each distinct person as God and Lord,

    so also are we prohibited by the catholic religion to say that there are three Gods or Lords.

    The Father is not made nor created nor begotten by anyone. The Son is neither made nor created, but begotten of the Father alone.

    The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son, neither made nor created nor begotten but proceeding.

    Thus, there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.

    And in this Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another;

    but the whole three persons are coeternal with each other and coequal so that in all things, as has been stated above, the Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity is to be worshiped.

    Therefore, whoever desires to be saved must think thus about the Trinity.

    But it is also necessary for everlasting salvation that one faithfully believe the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Therefore, it is the right faith that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is at the same time both God and man.

    He is God, begotten from the substance of the Father before all ages; and He is man, born from the substance of His mother in this age:

    perfect God and perfect man, composed of a rational soul and human flesh;

    p 18 equal to the Father with respect to His divinity, less than the Father with respect to His humanity.

    Although He is God and man, He is not two, but one Christ:

    one, however, not by the conversion of the divinity into flesh but by the assumption of the humanity into God;

    one altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person.

    For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ,

    who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again on the third day from the dead,

    ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father, from whence He will come to judge the living and the dead.

    At His coming all people will rise again with their bodies and give an account concerning their own deeds.

    And those who have done good will enter into eternal life, and those who have done evil into eternal fire.

    This is the catholic faith; whoever does not believe it faithfully and firmly cannot be saved.
     
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    Bible and Jesus says:

    the Father is greater than I.
    John 14:28

    This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
    John 17:3

    I think it is right to believe what Jesus says, if you are a disciple of Jesus (“Christian”).
     
  17. Bible Highlighter

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    The Trinity:

    The Bible teaches that there is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4) (1 Timothy 2:5) (Isaiah 45:5).

    Yet, the Bible also teaches that there are distinctions within the Godhead or that there is a plural nature to God.

    Here are a couple of quick points:

    #1. The word Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is both a singular and a plural noun.
    #2. God refers to Himself in plural form (Genesis 1:26) (Genesis 3:22) (Genesis 11:7) (Isaiah 6:8).
    #3. Plurality of God in New Testament (Matthew 28:19) (2 Corinthians 13:14) (John 14:16-20).
    #4. Introductions to both the Son & Holy Spirit (Daniel 7:9-10, Daniel 7:13-14) (John 14:16)
    #5. Different persons of Godhead appear at one time (Luke 3:21-22)
    #6. Distinctions of Wills (Luke 22:42).
    #7. Conversations Between the Godhead (Psalms 2:1-12) (Psalms 45:6-7) (Psalms 110:1) (Matthew 11:27) (John 17:24).​

    The Trinity is told to us in one verse within the King James Bible (Note: This verse does not appear in many Modern Translations).

    “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” (1 John 5:7) (KJV).​

    Romans 1:20 says,
    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"


    Meaning, even nature itself declares the Godhead (or the Trinity).

    Atoms = Nucleus, Protons, Electrons.
    Water Molecules = Hydrogen Atom, Hydrogen Atom, Oxygen Atom.
    Man's Formation = Dust, Mist (i.e. Water), Breadth of Life.
    Man Made in God's Image = Physical Body, Spirit Body, Soul.

    Although the word "Trinity" is not found within the Scriptures, the word "Godhead" is used instead (Acts of the Apostles 17:29) (Romans 1:20) (Colossians 2:9).

    While Jesus is 100% fully human, Jesus is also 100% fully God, and thus, He has the power of God.

    #1. Jesus said He has power to raise the dead to life just as the Father had power to raise the dead (John 5:21).
    #2. Hebrews 1:3 talks about how Christ held all things together by the word of His power when He purged us of our sins.
    #3. Jesus said, He would raise up this Temple (His body) three days later (John 2:19).
    #4. Jesus had the power to forgive sins and give eternal life (Mark 2:7) (Luke 7:44-50) (John 14:6).
    #5 Jesus had power to take away the sins of the entire world (John 1:29).
    #6. Jesus Christ said wherever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am among them (Matthew 18:20). This was said to the people he was around and not to just us today.
    #7. Jesus knew men's thoughts (Matthew 9:4) (Matthew 12:25) (Mark 2:8) (Luke 5:22) (Luke 6:8) (Luke 9:47) (Luke 24:38).
    #8. Jesus knew about the lives of others (John 2:24) (John 4:17-18) (John 4:29) (John 6:64).​

    God purchased us with His own blood:

    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” (Acts of the Apostles 20:28).

    There is no Savior beside or next to God:

    “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” (Isaiah 43:11).

    “So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.” (Matthew 16:19).

    Holy Spirit is God:

    The Holy Spirit is called God:

    “Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.” (Acts of the Apostles 5:3-4).

    The Holy Spirit is on equal level with being God:

    “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19).

    The Holy Spirit is eternal:

    “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” (Hebrews 9:14).

    The Holy Spirit is a person:

    “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;” (John 14:16).

    The Holy Spirit can be grieved:

    “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” (Ephesians 4:30).

    The Holy Spirit can be blasphemed:

    “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” (Matthew 12:32).

    Important Note: Only God can be blasphemed.

    The Father Sent The Holy Spirit

    The Bible says that God the Father sent the Holy Spirit. Jesus said.

    But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you (John 14:26).

    The Holy Spirit does the will of God the Father. Paul wrote.

    And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will (Romans 8:27).

    Source used for Holy Spirit being distinct from the Father:
    Is the Holy Spirit a Distinct Person from God the Father?
     
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    160 Reasons Jesus Christ is Almighty God

    By Thomas Golda

    Only because Jesus Christ is Almighty God do we have reassurance that He can save His elect from eternal damnation and eternal torment.

    1. Jesus IS the visible image of the Invisible God - Colossians 1:15, II Corinthians 4:4...to see Jesus is to see the Invisible God - Mankind was created IN the image of God - Genesis 1:26...Jesus IS the image of God. To see Jesus is to see the Invisible God in the flesh.

    2. Jesus was conceived by God - Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:20. Since Mary was his earthy mother, that makes Jesus fully human..since God was His physical Father, since Jesus did not have an earthy father, that makes Jesus fully God. He was fully man and fully God. The Great Godman.

    3. To see Jesus' face is to see the glory of God - II Corinthians 4:6

    4. Jesus "being in the form of God" makes Him God - Philippians 2:6

    5. Jesus being the brightness of the Father's glory - Hebrews 1:3

    6. Jesus is the exact image of the Father's Person - Hebrews 1:3

    7. That is why to "see Jesus" is to "see the Father" - John 14:9, John 12:45

    8. That is why Jesus said He and His Father are one - John 10:30

    9. Jesus is IN the bosom of the Father - John 1:18. Not "on" the bosom"..not "near" the bosom...IN the bosom...He is in the center of the Father. They are "one"
    10. He is called EVERLASTING Father - Isaiah 9:6

    11. Jesus deserves the SAME honour as the Father - John 5:23

    12.Jesus was WORSHIPPED - Matthew 2:11, Matthew 9:12, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Luke 24:52..Since only God is to be worshipped - Matthew 4:10..that means Jesus is God.

    13. Even angels WORSHIP Jesus - Hebrews 1:6

    14. Heaven falls down before the Lamb - Revelation 5:8

    15. Jesus Created ALL things - Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3, Ephesians 3:9 ....God created all things - Acts 14:15, Isaiah 45:18, Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 42:5. Jesus is God

    16. Jesus also made the world - John 1:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 44:18

    17. Jesus created all things for HIMSELF - Colossians 1:16, Proverbs 16:4(Jesus is God)

    18. By Jesus all things consist - Colossians 1:17

    19. Jesus upholds all things - Hebrews 1:3

    20. Jesus is before all things - Colossians 1:17

    21. Jesus rules heaven and earth - Matthew 28:18. Jesus is God - II Chronicles 29:11

    22. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath - Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5

    23. Jesus called Himself the Great "I AM" - John 8:58, John 8:24...a quote from Exodus 3:14

    24. In the body of Jesus dwells the fullness of the Godhead - Colossians 2:9

    25. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are THREE and they are ONE - I John 5:7

    26. And this is all why Jesus is EQUAL WITH GOD - Philippians 2:6

    27. Jesus was "God manifest in the flesh" - I Timothy 3:16

    28. God was in Christ - Galatians 3:17, II Corinthians 5:19

    29. Jesus is the Power of God and the Wisdom of God - I Corinthians 1:24

    30. Jesus "only" hath immortality - I Timothy 6:16

    31. Jesus is Lord of the living and the dead - Romans 14:9

    32. Jesus is called the Saviour - Luke 2:11, Titus 1:4, Titus 2:13, Titus 3:3, II Peter 1:1, II Peter 1:11, II Peter 2:20, II Peter 3:18, I John 4:14

    33. Only Jehovah God alone is the Saviour - Isaiah 43:11, Isaiah 45:15 , Hosea 13:4, I Timothy 2:2, Jude 1:25...that means Jesus is God.

    34. Jesus ALONE is the Great Judge - John 5:22. The Judge is God - Hebrews 12:23, Revelation 18:8, Hebrews 13:4, Romans 2:3,5 - Jesus is God. All the verses in the Bible that talk about God being the Judge refer to Jesus, since He alone judges. The Father
    judges no man - John 5:22.

    35. Jesus has the keys of hell and of death - Revelation 1:18. The one that can cast into hell is to be FEARED - Matthew 10:28, Luke 12:5 Only God is to be feared - Rev 14:7

    36. Jesus is from EVERLASTING - Micah 5:2, Isaiah 9:6

    37. Jesus has NO BEGINNING of days - Hebrews 7:3

    38. Jesus is the SAME, yesterday, today and forever - Hebrews 13:8. A quote from Psalm 102:27. Jesus is God.

    39. Jesus' is in the midst or the center of the throne of God - Rev 1:6

    40. Jesus has the Greatest Name above every name ever named - Philippians 2:9

    41. Jesus' name is the Greatest in the world to come as well - Ephesians 1:21

    42. And it is before name of JESUS, not any other name including Jehovah, that the peoples of the earth and heaven and bowing before - Philippians 2:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:22-23

    43. Only by the name JESUS can one be saved - Acts 4:10-12

    44. Jesus is called the Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:11

    45. Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega is the ALMIGHTY - Revelation 1:7-8

    46. Jesus is called the King of kings - I Timothy 6:15. Jesus is the King - Zechariah 9:9. The King is God - I Timothy 1:17. Jesus is God

    47. Jesus is called Lord of lords - I Timothy 6:15. God is called Lord of lords - Deut 10:17. Jesus is God

    48. Christ is called the ROCK - I Corinthians 10:4. That is who Israel followed. The ROCK who Israel followed was GOD - Deut 32:3-4. - God is the Rock - Psalm 18:2 and only God is the Rock - Psalm 18:31. Christ is God.

    49. Jesus calls Himself the FIRST AND THE LAST - Revelation 1:11,17. Only GOD is the FIRST AND THE LAST - Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 48:12. Jesus is God.

    50. Jesus knows all things (OMNIPOTENT) - John 2:24-25, John 4:29, John 6:64, John 16:30

    51. Jesus is OMNIPRESENT - Matthew 18:20, Matthew 28:20

    52. Jesus' body fills all (is omnipresent) - Ephesians 1:23

    53. Jesus knows the hearts of men - Revelation 2:23

    54. Jesus dwells in the hearts - Ephesians 3:17

    55. And "liveth" in the believers - Galatians 2:20

    56. Jesus knows the thoughts of men - Matthew 9:4, Luke 6:8

    57. And Jesus will judge the "secrets" of men - Romans 2:16

    58. God shed His blood - Acts 20:28

    59. The cross is the "power of God" - I Corinthians 1:17-18

    60. Jesus called the Kingdom of God His Kingdom - John 18:36

    61. Jesus is the "Deliverer" of the believers from the wrath of God - I Thessalonians 1:10, Romans 11:26. Only God is the Deliverer from the wrath of God - II Corinthians 1:9-10

    62. In Jesus' name we TRUST - Ephesians 1:12-13, Matthew 12:21, Philippians 2:19. Only in God do we trust - Psalm 4:5, 7:1, 31:1, 73:28, Isaiah 26:4. Jesus is God.

    63. Jesus is the TRUTH - John 14:6. Jesus is God - Psalm 31:5

    64. Jesus sent the prophets - Matthew 23:34...God sent the prophets - Jeremiah 7:25. Jesus is God who sent the prophets.

    65. Jesus is the Stone of stumbling - I Peter 2:8. A prophesy from Isaiah 8:13-14. God is the stone of stumbling. Jesus is God.

    66. God is the fountain of living waters - Jeremiah 17:13....Jesus is the fountain of living waters - John 4:10-14

    67. Jesus brings reward to the wicked for their works - Matthew 16:27. Jesus is God - Psalm 54:4-5, II Samuel 3:39.

    68. The reward of salvation is "with Jesus" - Revelation 22:12. Jesus is God - Isaiah 62:11, Isaiah 40:10

    69. Jesus gave power to His people - Luke 9:1. Jesus is God - Psalm 68:35

    70. Jesus is called the HOLY ONE - Acts 3:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 30:15, Isaiah 40:25, Isaiah 41:14, Isaiah 43:15

    71. Jesus is the light - John 8:12. Jesus is God - Psalm 27:1

    72. Jesus is the Husband of believers - Revelation 19:7,9, 21:2, 21:9. Jesus is God - Isaiah 54:5

    73. Jesus gives us rest - Matthew 11:28. Jesus is God - Exodus 33:14

    74. Jesus gathers the sheep - John 10:16. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:11

    75. Jesus seeks and saves that which is lost - Luke 19:10. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:16

    76. Jesus is the Shepherd - John 10:11,14. Jesus is God - Psalm 23:1

    77. Jesus feeds the people and causes them to sit down - Mark 8:5-10, Matthew 14:19-21. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:15

    78. The blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin - I John 1:7. God cleanses from sin - Psalm 51:2, Ezekiel 36:25.. Jesus is God

    79. Redemption is from Jesus Christ - Romans 3:24, Colossians 1:14. Redemption is from God - Psalm 130:7. Jesus is God

    80. Christ is the Redeemer - Galatians 4:5, Galatians 3:13, Revelation 5:9, Titus 2:14. God is the Redeemer - Jeremiah 31:11, Isaiah 41:14, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 44:24. Jesus is God

    81. Jesus wrote new commandments with His finger - John 8:5-9. This is to show that He is God who wrote the 10 commandments with His finger - Exodus 31:18

    82. The Bible declares God. That God is Jesus who is written in all the scriptures - Luke 24:27, Luke 24:44, John 5:39, John 5:46

    83. ALL things are by Jesus - I Corinthians 8:6

    84. John the Baptist, the voice in the wilderness prepared the coming of the Lord - Matthew 3:3. A quote from Isaiah 40:3...He prepared the coming of Jehovah God!!!!

    85. Jesus forgave sin - Matthew 9:2, Mark 2:5....and only GOD can forgive sins - Mark 2:7. Only God can forgive sin where they are atoned for it. Jesus is God.

    86. Jesus forgave sins and healed diseases - Matthew 9:6. Only God can do that - Psalm 103:3

    87. Jesus calmed the storm - Matthew 8:26...Only God can - Psalm 107:25

    88. God was pierced - Zechariah 12:10...quoted again in John 19:37. Jesus is God

    89. God was priced at 30 pieces of silver - Zechariah 11:12-13...quoted again in Matthew 27:9....Jesus is God.

    90. Jesus returns again with His saints - I Thess. 3:13. A fulfillment of Zechariah 14:5 that says GOD will come with His saints. Jesus is God.

    91. The Jews wanted Jesus killed for the crime of Blasphemy - Matthew 26:65. In their minds He claimed to be God - John 10:33, and Equal with God - John 5:18 and forgave as only God can do - Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21...that was blasphemy is their eyes - Mark 2:7,
    Luke 5:21. Jesus by His words and actions claimed to be God...and that is why He was found guilty by the Jews of blasphemy.

    92. Jesus raised Himself from the dead - John 2:19-21. John 10:17-18

    93. Jesus will raise all the dead - John 6:39-40,44. God raises the dead both physically and spiritually - Ezekiel 37:12-14. Jesus is God

    94. The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are one and the same. Christ is God - Romans 8:9

    95. Jesus quickens (which means to make alive) - John 5:21. Only God can make someone alive - Ezekiel 37:5-6,9. Only God can quicken - Psalm 80:18. Jesus is God.

    96. One cannot serve God and mammon - Matthew 6:24. Only God is to be served - Romans 1:9. The One we serve is Jesus Christ - Colossians 3:24.

    97. Jesus is the one who "justifies" - Galatians 2:17. ONLY GOD can justifieth - Romans 8:33. Jesus is God.

    98. Jesus "reveals" truth - Luke 10:22, Matthew 11:27. Only GOD can reveal truth - Philippians 3:15, I Corinthians 2:10. Jesus is God.

    99. God will not share His glory with another - Isaiah 42:8, 48:11. But the Father glorifies the Son - John 17:1,5, John 12:23, John 13:31-32. Jesus is God and He is ONE with the Father.

    100. ONLY in the name of JESUS is their salvation. There is salvation is NONE OTHER - Acts 4:10-12, II Timothy 2:10. And salvation belongs to GOD - Psalm 3:8, Jonah 2:9, Lamentations 3:26, Isaiah 52:10, Psalm 51:14. Since only in the name of Jesus is there
    salvation and salvation belongs to God, that simply means Jesus is God.

    101. Jesus chooses the elect - John 15:16. Jesus is God - I Thess. 2:13, I Cor. 1:27

    102. Men are Jesus' disciples - John 13:35, John 15:8. Jesus is God - Isaiah 8:16

    103. Jesus' voice is the sound of many waters - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is Almighty God - Ezekiel 43:2.

    104. Jesus' feet are like fine brass - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 1:7, Ezekiel 1:28

    105. Jesus' name is the Word of God - Revelation 19:13

    106. All grace comes from God - I Peter 5:10. Jesus is that God where all grace comes from - Rev 22:21, Romans 16:20, I Thess. 5:28, II Thess. 3:18

    107. Jesus comes with clouds - Rev 1:7, Matthew 24:30 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 19:1, Jeremiah 4:13, Numbers 11:25

    108. Jesus is called God - John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8

    109. Jesus is called The Great God - Titus 2:13

    110. Jesus is called The Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6

    111. Jesus is called The True God - I John 5:20

    112. Jesus is "God with us" - Matthew 1:21

    113. Jesus is called "My God" - John 20:28. Since there is "no other God" - Isaiah 45:5,21-22..that means Jesus is that God.

    114. Jesus is called "our hope" - I Timothy 1:1. We hope in Jesus - I Cor. 15:19. We are to only hope in God - I Peter 1:21, Psalm 38:15. Jesus is God.

    115. Christ is our life - Colossians 3:4. Jesus is God - Psalm 42:8

    116. Jesus is called Faithful - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Deut 7:9

    117. Jesus is called True - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Romans 3:4

    118. Israel temped Christ - I Corinthians 10:9. Jesus is God - Deut 6:16, Numbers 14:22.

    119. Christ sent serpents and destroyed Israel - I Cor 10:9. Jesus is God - Numbers 21:6-7

    120. Jesus rebukes and chastens - Revelation 3:19 - Jesus is God - Hebrews 12:5-7, Proverbs 3:11-12.

    121. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of faith - Hebrews 12:2

    122. God said "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness" - Genesis 1:26. The plurality refers to the Trinity. This is not talking about the angels or heavenly host. Angels cannot create life. Secondly, nowhere is it indicated that angels are made in the image of
    God. Third, there is no indication that mankind is created in the image of angels.

    123. The plurality of the Trinity is also referred to in Genesis 3:22 and Isaiah 6:8. Jesus is God.

    124. Before Jesus became man, He had glory with the Father before the world was - John 17:5

    125. All things are given into Jesus' hand - John 3:35

    126. Jesus is described as "WHICH WAS" dead, and "IS" alive - Revelation 2:8. The one who "which was" and "which is" is Almighty God - Revelation 4:8, Revelation 1:8. Jesus is God.

    127. The "Great Day" of the Wrath of the Lamb - Revelation 6:16-17 is the "Great Day" of God Almighty - Revelation 16:14. Jesus is the Lamb who is God Almighty.

    128. Jesus is the King - I Timothy 6:15, John 18:37. Jesus is the King who is called the "only wise God" - I Timothy 1:17

    129. Jesus is called the "Just One" - Acts 22:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:21

    130. Jesus "gives" repentance - Acts 5:31, Acts 3:26. Jesus is God - II Timothy 2:25

    131. Jesus reconciled all things to Himself - Colossians 1:20. Jesus is God - Romans 5:18-19

    132. Jesus brings Judgment on the churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Jesus is God - Hebrews 10:30, Deuteronomy 32:35-36

    133. God has a Father - Revelation 1:6. That God is Jesus Christ.

    134. Jesus stilled the waves and rules the sea- Matthew 8:26-27, Mark 4:39-41. Jesus is God - Psalm 89:8-9

    135. Jesus has eyes that are sent forth into all the earth - Revelation 5:6 - Jesus is God - II Chronicles 16:9

    136. To know the love of Christ is to be filled with the fulness of God - Ephesians 3:19

    137. Christ strengthens the believers - Philippians 4:13. Christ is God - Isaiah 40:29, Isaiah 41:10

    138. In Christ's presence is fullness of joy - John 15:11. Jesus is God - Psalm 16:11

    139. To see Jesus is to see the Father and to hate Jesus is to hate the Father as well - John 15:24, John 15:23

    140. Jesus turns the water into wine - John 2:7-11. A creative act to show that Jesus is Creator God.

    141. Jesus walks on water - John 6:19, Matthew 14:26, Mark 6:48 - Jesus is God - Psalm 93:4, Psalm 95:5, Psalm 72:8, Job 9:8

    142. Jesus causes the blind to see - Matthew 9:27-30, Matthew 11:5, Mark 8:22-26, Mark 10:51-52. Jesus is God - Psalm 146:8, Isaiah 35:4-5

    143. Jesus causes the deaf to hear - Matthew 11:5, Mark 7:32, Mark 7:37 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 43:7-8

    144. Jesus causes the dumb to speak - Matthew 9:32-33, Matt 15:31, Mark 7:37, Luke 11:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 36:6, Ezekiel 24:27, Ezekiel 33:22

    145. Jesus causes the lame to walk - Matthew 11:5, Mark 2:11, Luke 7:22 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:6

    146. Jesus' face shines as the sun - Matthew 17:2. Jesus is God - Psalm 84:11, Malachi 4:2

    147. Jesus will inherit all nations - Psalm 2:7-8. Jesus is God - Psalm 82:8

    148. Jesus will rule all nations with a rod of iron - Revelation 12:5. Jesus is God - Isaiah 14:5-6

    149. Jesus will smite all nations with a rod or iron. He is the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God - Revelation 19:15. He is Almighty God who brings wrath.

    150. Jesus and His Father established the ends of the earth - Proverbs 30:4

    151. Jesus was without sin - II Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, I Peter 2:22. Only God is without sin - Deuteronomy 32:4. Jesus is God

    152. Jesus is ABOVE ALL - John 3:31

    153. Jesus is GOD OVER ALL - Romans 9:5

    154. Jesus is LORD OF ALL - Acts 10:36

    155. The Lord God sent His angel to John - Rev 22:6. It is Jesus that sent His angel - Rev 22:16. Jesus is the Lord God.

    156. Jesus is called the "Lord of Glory" - I Corinthians 2:8. Jesus is YHWH God - Psalm 24:8-10

    157. Jesus gets glory now and forever - II Peter 3:18

    158. The Father calls Jesus "LORD" who made heaven and earth - Hebrews 1:10

    159. Heaven is God's throne and earth His FOOTSTOOL - Isaiah 66:1, Matthew 5:34-35. Jesus is God - Matthew 22:44, Hebrews 1:13

    160. Every knee shall bow, and "every tongue" shall confess to GOD - Romans 14:11. The God "every tongue" is confessing to is JESUS CHRIST - Philippians 2:11
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    Now, there are two wrong extremes people have made involving the Trinity.

    #1. Modalism
    (Which is a belief held by United Pentecostals).

    This says that there is no distinctive persons within the Godhead. That God the Father just puts on a mask and pretends to be the Son; Others believe it says all three persons are smashed together whereby the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost do not have any kind of distinctiveness anymore. But the Bible makes it clear that the Father sent the Son to die for our sins (And it was not the Son sending the Father) (1 John 4:14). The Bible makes it clear that one cannot be forgiven if they speak a word against the Holy Spirit but yet, this is not the case if one speaks a word against the Son, though (Matthew 12:32).

    #2. Tritheism
    (Which is a belief held by Mormons).

    This says that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct gods. This is polytheism or the worship of more than one God. But the Bible makes it clear that the Lord our God is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4).


    Then there is the correct view of the Trinity.

    The Lord our God exists as one God, but He exists as three distinct persons (i.e. The Father, the Word (Christ), and the Holy Ghost). All three persons co-existed as one God for all eternity. Also, in the Trinity, the Father and the Son and can dwell within one another despite their distinctiveness as persons within the Godhead, too. For Jesus said He dwells in the Father and the Father dwells in Him (John 14:10) (John 17:21).
     
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    I’d say relax in the Oneness of the I Am and trust Him to illumine your understanding of His Triune nature on a situational basis. It is a matter of which Person He wants to grace you with and the Person you are seeking/need—even if you don’t understand or are even aware of the need(s). The same dynamic applies when it comes to the Name(s) of God. Sometimes, the situation obviously dictates your focus, e.g., praying the “Our Father”, or thanking Jesus for His intercession and dying for you by bearing the wrath for your sin, or enjoying communion with God through the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
     
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