Treat Far-Right Terror as the Threat It Is

[Albion]

At the same time as the events in NZ, hundreds of Christians in Nigeria are being slaughtered by Moslem terrorists, but no one in the West cares, except for some religious publications and small-time Conservative websites. Certainly not CNN, NBC, etc. etc.

It doesn't fit the schema of the "Progressives" who can neither bring themselves to care so long as the victims are Christian instead of Moslem and, as well, it doesn't leave them with much of an opening for blaming it all on...you guessed it, President Trump.

 

[Ana the Ist]

When it comes to Hate-Speech - Yes

What qualifies as "hate speech"? What are these forbidden opinions no one shall speak?

 

[SummerMadness]

At the same time as the events in NZ, hundreds of Christians in Nigeria are being slaughtered by Moslem terrorists, but no one in the West cares, except for some religious publications and small-time Conservative websites. Certainly not CNN, NBC, etc. etc.

It doesn't fit the schema of the "Progressives" who can neither bring themselves to care so long as the victims are Christian instead of Moslem and, as well, it doesn't leave them with much of an opening for blaming it all on...you guessed it, President Trump.

What recent terrorist attack in Nigeria are you referring to? Last I checked Boko Haram is fairly localized. Moreover, who is ignoring Boko Haram? Last I checked, the Nigerian military was battling the group.

 

[Albion]

What recent terrorist attack in Nigeria are you referring to? .

My point proven.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Treat Far-Right Terror as the Threat It Is

I don't think anyone here, whether conservative or liberal, disagree with this statement.

 

[Abraxos]

At the same time as the events in NZ, hundreds of Christians in Nigeria are being slaughtered by Moslem terrorists, but no one in the West cares, except for some religious publications and small-time Conservative websites. Certainly not CNN, NBC, etc. etc.

It doesn't fit the schema of the "Progressives" who can neither bring themselves to care so long as the victims are Christian instead of Moslem and, as well, it doesn't leave them with much of an opening for blaming it all on...you guessed it, President Trump.

Those on the Right strung along by right-leaning news sources tend to only dish out the deaths of Christians in Nigeria as a prop to use to decry "hypocrisy!" and to make an argument of "Where's the outrage over these poor Christians in Nigeria?!" It is a terrible equivalency to compare two tragedies to make a political point.

The Washington Post owned by the richest man in the world and CNN both recklessly spread a false narrative to advance their own financial and political agendas that much is obvious to me, and FOX News and Breitbart are much more subtle with their dog whistles, and unfortunately the results show that subtlety is more dangerous than the obvious.
The shooter at Christchurch was a deranged and confused man who listened to far too much right-wing rhetoric that it made him insane and act out this atrocity. Not much could be said about left-leaning news sources having the same deadly effect.

 

[Albion]

I don't think anyone here, whether conservative or liberal, disagree with this statement.

I think you're right about that. Or at least that no one should disagree about rejecting the views of a self-proclaimed fascist and opponent of conservatism.

 

[JosephZ]

At the same time as the events in NZ, hundreds of Christians in Nigeria are being slaughtered by Moslem terrorists, but no one in the West cares, except for some religious publications and small-time Conservative websites. Certainly not CNN, NBC, etc. etc.

It doesn't fit the schema of the "Progressives" who can neither bring themselves to care so long as the victims are Christian instead of Moslem and, as well, it doesn't leave them with much of an opening for blaming it all on...you guessed it, President Trump.

The majority of the victims in the most recent slaughters in Nigeria have been Fulani Muslims.

 

[SummerMadness]

My point proven.

I get it, you’re just blowing smoke.

 

[Ironhold]

The shooter... wasn't far right.

His manifesto said that he wanted this act to trigger civil war in the US and other nations, and he went back and forth on various issues.

That's "someone who wants to see the whole world burn in the most literal sense of the word."

 

[JosephZ]

The shooter... wasn't far right.

His manifesto said that he wanted this act to trigger civil war in the US and other nations, and he went back and forth on various issues.

That's "someone who wants to see the whole world burn in the most literal sense of the word."

Here's a post I made in another thread:

Here is a good definition of right-wing extremism.

Violence in support of the belief that personal and/or national way of life is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent. Characterized by anti-globalism, racial or ethnic supremacy or nationalism, suspicion of centralized federal authority, reverence for individual liberty, and/or belief in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.

Going by the above definition, the shooter was definitely a right-wing extremist.

 

[JackRT]

Here's a post I made in another thread:
Going by the above definition, the shooter was definitely a right-wing extremist.

That was quite a good definition.

 

[mala]

My point proven.

you're point being that you only conveniently mention dead nigerians when trying to win some brownie points and that you in all honestly couldn't even care about dead nigerians and frankly support people who probably prefer if those dead nigerians stayed in nigeria and didn't sully whatever great white paradise that you currently reside in? i think i'm pretty accurate about this because you are trying to use one group of dead people to distract from another group of dead people so that that group doesn't get too much sympathy or something along those lines.

 

[Albion]

At least 120 people have been killed by alleged Fulani militant attacks since February in Nigeria with the latest attacks occurring this month.

In February, there were many homes burned, a reported 38 Christians murdered, and a number of churches converted to mosques.

 

[Sparagmos]

At the same time as the events in NZ, hundreds of Christians in Nigeria are being slaughtered by Moslem terrorists, but no one in the West cares, except for some religious publications and small-time Conservative websites. Certainly not CNN, NBC, etc. etc.

It doesn't fit the schema of the "Progressives" who can neither bring themselves to care so long as the victims are Christian instead of Moslem and, as well, it doesn't leave them with much of an opening for blaming it all on...you guessed it, President Trump.

Did those publications cover the slaughter of over 100 Muslims, including children, by Christians that occurred last week?

 

[JosephZ]

That was quite a good definition.

That definition comes from The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START).

 

[Albion]

Here's a post I made in another thread:
Going by the above definition, the shooter was definitely a right-wing extremist.

He is an extremist of some sort, all right. But the shooter has been a strong opponent of Conservatism, is an admirer of Communist China, and goes on at length about his admiration for Hitler and Oswald Moseley, the British Fascist/Nazi.

Quite obviously, that does not agree at all with your chosen definition of a "right wing extremist," part of which I remind you of here--


"….suspicion of centralized federal authority, reverence for individual liberty, and/or belief in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."

 

[JosephZ]

Quite obviously, that does not agree at all with your chosen definition of a "right wing extremist," part of which I remind you of here--

An individual doesn't have to fall into every category of the definition to be considered a right wing extremist. I will highlight the parts that do define this particular shooter.

"Violence in support of the belief that personal and/or national way of life is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent. Characterized by anti-globalism, racial or ethnic supremacy or nationalism, suspicion of centralized federal authority, reverence for individual liberty, and/or belief in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."

In addition to what he wrote in his manifesto, the weapons he used had references to past right-wing extremists and contained symbols and references used by white supremacist.

He is no doubt a right-wing extremist/terrorist.

 

[Albion]

Did those publications cover the slaughter of over 100 Muslims, including children, by Christians that occurred last week?

You (and others, I think) have missed the point entirely. No one here wants anyone killed like this, and it doesn't matter what their religion.

But one political faction climbed all over this like flies on honey while claiming to be appalled by it. No, they were not especially appalled about other people being killed in a similar fashion, and that is because the events in Nigeria would be much harder to turn into an attack on mythical White Supremacists in the USA and/or President Trump than the events in New Zealand.

 

[Albion]

An individual doesn't have to fall into every category of the definition to be considered a right wing extremist. I will highlight the parts that do define this particular shooter.

Nonsense. A definition has to define!

All you are doing it picking and choosing characteristics so that you can make him out to be what you want him to be..

However, he comes closest to being a Socialist.