Travel bans also reject persecuted Iraqi Christians

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The Trump administration's travel ban is preventing the persecuted Iraqi Christians from entering the safety of the US. Prayers ascending for them.

Before people say 'fake news,' seriously, please read the two articles and other reports that confirm it. The information is coming from ICE, the Iraqi government, and other government sources confirming that they are deporting persecuted Iraqi Christians.
"'As a result of recent negotiations between the US and Iraq, Iraq has recently agreed to accept a number of Iraqi nationals subject to orders of removal,' an ICE statement reads."

Iraqi Christians among victims of Donald Trump's 'Muslim ban' | Christian News on Christian Today

US Prepares to Deport Hundreds of Iraqi Christians from Christianity Today
 
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Wrong. Iraq is not included in the proposed travel ban.
Did you read the article? It explains that. This information is coming from ICE. "'As a result of recent negotiations between the US and Iraq, Iraq has recently agreed to accept a number of Iraqi nationals subject to orders of removal,' an ICE statement reads."
 
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1) its not a ban on Muslims or of any faith. It's a ban on dangerous countries known for terror.
2) Iraq isn't on the list. More fake news
Same question, did you read the article? The article explains that. Christian Today is not some left-wing or right-wing biased news. They're biased about Christianity, yes, because they are a Christian news source. This is also confirmed by ICE and the Iraqi government. While people want to ignore it and call it 'fake', Christians are dying.

"'As a result of recent negotiations between the US and Iraq, Iraq has recently agreed to accept a number of Iraqi nationals subject to orders of removal,' an ICE statement reads."
 
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Did you read the article? It explains that. This information is coming from ICE. "'As a result of recent negotiations between the US and Iraq, Iraq has recently agreed to accept a number of Iraqi nationals subject to orders of removal,' an ICE statement reads."

That has nothing to do with the travel ban proposal. Iraq is not included in the ban.
 
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"This past weekend, at least two busloads of Chaldean Christians slated for deportation—as many as 80 individuals by some estimates—were picked up by ICE in the Detroit area and moved into custody in Ohio. Michigan is home to the largest Chaldean Catholic community outside of Iraq, with 121,000 members and at least 10 churches."
People need to realise there is more than one issue out there.
 
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That has nothing to do with the travel ban proposal. Iraq is not included in the ban.
There's more than one policy that can be called a ban, hence the plural 'bans.' However, wordage aside, these persecuted Iraqi Christians are being deported. How is that okay? We should be speaking out to keep them here and save them from the life-threatening persecution they faced in their homeland.
 
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There's more than one policy that can be called a ban, hence the plural 'bans.' However, wordage aside, these persecuted Iraqi Christians are being deported. How is that okay? We should be speaking out to keep them here and save them from the life-threatening persecution they faced in their homeland.

I agree that we should do everything we can to protect Iraqi and other middle eastern Christians.

This policy is an Obama era policy, however, and it is wrong to try to use it to attack Trump.
 
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I agree that we should do everything we can to protect Iraqi and other middle eastern Christians.

This policy is an Obama era policy, however, and it is wrong to try to use it to attack Trump.
Obama is not president; that makes this a Trump-era policy in the most literal sense of the words. If this happened under Obama, people spoke out and complained. Now that it's happening under Trump, and that Trump could change this with the stroke of a pen, people are crying 'fake news,' or focusing on wordage more than on the lives at stake.

I thought that all Christians, Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal, centrist or ideologue, could agree on this at least. I'm saddened to see not.
 
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Obama is not president; that makes this a Trump-era policy in the most literal sense of the words. If this happened under Obama, people spoke out and complained. Now that it's happening under Trump, and that Trump could change this with the stroke of a pen, people are crying 'fake news,' or focusing on wordage more than on the lives at stake.


Not true.

You are distorting the reality of Trump's proposed travel ban to make a different point.

You are doing this because you are a democrat.
 
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yes, you're taking an Obama policy and attributing it to Trump. You do realize Obama actually stopped immigration from Iraq for 6 months, right? He's also deported more people than anyone in president history. It's not all about Trump, Trump, Trump.

People break the laws, they deserve to leave. No one is entitled to come here and break our laws.
 
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The articles also state:

“Immigration officials claim all of those arrested had criminal convictions”

“It adds the recent arrests were part of processing a 'backlog' and insisted all had convictions 'for crimes including homicide, rape, aggravated assault, kidnapping, burglary, drug trafficking, robbery, sex assault, weapons violations and other offenses'.”

“Shaou’s case is divisive for a number of reasons. For one thing, he’s a convicted criminal. After serving in Korea’s demilitarized zone in the early 1980s, during which time his father died, Shaou returned to the US and, suffering from PTSD, was honorably discharged. Soon after, at the age of 20, he shot and wounded a police officer during a robbery near Detroit and was sentenced to 35 years in prison.”

It’s called vetting (or maybe actual vetting). And, how vulnerable are we just thinking that all those claiming to be persecuted Christians... actually are. We need to be compassionate, but we also have to use common sense.
 
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