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There are two points of consideration here for. One of them has to do with Maslow. According to psychologist Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs, a sense of belonging and acceptance is fundamental to human well-being.

I do not understand why they want to involve people in a deeply personal issue. This does not seem to get them the approval they want and need. In fact it turns people against them.

Recent studies indicate that about 1.6% of U.S. adults identify as transgender or non-binary. Among younger adults (those under 30), this percentage is higher, with around 5.1% identifying as transgender or non-binary.

Non-binary identities are becoming more recognized and understood, and many people feel more comfortable expressing their gender outside the traditional male-female binary.

The main issue with locker rooms seems to be resolved by having a third locker room that they can be comfortable with. So to resolve the 50 50 issue you add a locker room for just the 5 percent that are having a problem with this issue.
 

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It's a mental illness, and should be treated as such.

If a man wants to identify as a woman, I don't care. It's not my life.

I choose to live in reality.
 
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It's a mental illness, and should be treated as such.
You think we should medicate them? What medicine do you suggest? In everything we should just trust it all to God to show us the way He wants us to go. We are told in Psalm 139 16 that God writes the book of our life at or before our conception. So we need to follow the script and the angels were given to help us with that.
 
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You think we should medicate them? What medicine do you suggest? In everything we should just trust it all to God to show us the way He wants us to go. We are told in Psalm 139 16 that God writes the book of our life at or before our conception. So we need to follow the script and the angels were given to help us with that.
Yes. And God made no mistake when he made them male or female.

Talk therapy. Medications such as SSRI's etc.
 
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Yes. And God made no mistake when he made them male or female.
I have studied that a lot, why God made them male and female, man and women. Gender confused people have no idea what God's plan and purpose is in all of that. Everyone has issues that cause us to trust in God.
 
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Non-binary identities are becoming more recognized and understood, and many people feel more comfortable expressing their gender outside the traditional male-female binary.
There are no "non-binary identities" or "gender outside the traditional male-female binary", there are people that are largely in need of serious psychological assistance, and it is a shame that due to this "affirming" nonsense that phycological care is being delayed or otherwise not sought out.
 
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There are no "non-binary identities" or "gender outside the traditional male-female binary", there are people that are largely in need of serious psychological assistance, and it is a shame that due to this "affirming" nonsense that phycological care is being delayed or otherwise not sought out.
The most important part is they need trained professionals. But do the professionals even know what to do?
 
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The most important part is they need trained professionals. But do the professionals even know what to do?
I would believe there must be some that know what to do, but honestly that's out of my depth. But simply affirming a misbelief only makes it worse, IMO.
 
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There are no "non-binary identities" or "gender outside the traditional male-female binary", there are people that are largely in need of serious psychological assistance, and it is a shame that due to this "affirming" nonsense that phycological care is being delayed or otherwise not sought out.
It’s a delusion.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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It's a mental illness, and should be treated as such.

If a man wants to identify as a woman, I don't care. It's not my life.

I choose to live in reality.
But what if it were your life? What if you were that person born in a body that does not feel natural and true to your sense of who you are?
 
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But what if it were your life? What if you were that person born in a body that does not feel natural and true to your sense of who you are?
I would hope that the people that are in my life would love me enough, and be honest enough with me to assist me in getting he help that I need. Just like many other phycological conditions, often the person experiencing them doesn't see the need for "help", but people they love can help them see. I've known people with conditions that just could not see it or the harm that it was causing them until they had received the help that they needed. Only then seeing that they in fact did have a condition that needed to be actively treated by a professional and how much better they felt about themselves and their life.
 
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I would hope that the people that are in my life would love me enough, and be honest enough with me to assist me in getting he help that I need. Just like many other phycological conditions, often the person experiencing them doesn't see the need for "help", but people they love can help them see. I've known people with conditions that just could not see it or the harm that it was causing them until they had received the help that they needed. Only then seeing that they in fact did have a condition that needed to be actively treated by a professional and how much better they felt about themselves and their life.
I think part of the problem is that "help" comes in too wide a variety of forms from surgery to conversion therapy.
 
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I think part of the problem is that "help" comes in too wide a variety of forms from surgery to conversion therapy.
Sure, but based on the context of my comment I thought it was clear I meant to assist the person in seeing that they are mistaken in their idea that they are in the "wrong" gender.
 
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But what if it were your life? What if you were that person born in a body that does not feel natural and true to your sense of who you are?
…then I would have a disorder.

I still wouldn’t know what it’s like to be the opposite sex, regardless
 
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…then I would have a disorder.

I still wouldn’t know what it’s like to be the opposite sex, regardless
Have you seen the condition where there are people in their bodies that insist on amputation of limbs because it does not feel natural?
 
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I would believe there must be some that know what to do
My brother was a psychologist and my dad and oldest brother were medical doctors. I am not convinced that they know anything but they do always have some sort of a treatment plan if it is effective or not. My brother said one third get worse, one third get better and one third stay the same and there is not much anyone can do about that.

I personally have more faith in the Church and what they can do. Doctors help who they are able to help and the church helps who they are able to help. As long as people are getting something in the way of help. Or better yet go to doctors and the church and get all the help you can get. The main thing is the church should not have an opinion one way or the other about meds. They should level that up to the trained professionals.

I say they do not know anything but my older brother gets paid $500 an hour as an expert witness in court. His wife is an attorney so she finds work for him part time now that he is retired.
 
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Yes. And God made no mistake when he made them male or female.

Talk therapy. Medications such as SSRI's etc.
I think medications for delusions would probably be better. But I’m not a doctor. The important thing is to find a psychologist/psychiatrist who isn’t in favor of feeding into the delusion.
 
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Yes. And God made no mistake when he made them male or female.

Talk therapy. Medications such as SSRI's etc.
If God didn't make mistakes would there be need for talk therapy nor medications?
 
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There are two points of consideration here for. One of them has to do with Maslow. According to psychologist Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs, a sense of belonging and acceptance is fundamental to human well-being.

I do not understand why they want to involve people in a deeply personal issue. This does not seem to get them the approval they want and need. In fact it turns people against them.

Recent studies indicate that about 1.6% of U.S. adults identify as transgender or non-binary. Among younger adults (those under 30), this percentage is higher, with around 5.1% identifying as transgender or non-binary.

Non-binary identities are becoming more recognized and understood, and many people feel more comfortable expressing their gender outside the traditional male-female binary.

The main issue with locker rooms seems to be resolved by having a third locker room that they can be comfortable with. So to resolve the 50 50 issue you add a locker room for just the 5 percent that are having a problem with this issue.

There have always been eunuchs. The Bible is full of them. They could allow eunuchs to guard the harem and the king's secrets. The Bible does not say for sure but there is a possibility that Daniel was a eunuch.

Some people are born that way, some are mutilated by others and some mutilate themselves. The self-emasculatory tendency today seems to be a spin-off from a version of feminism that in effect is just trying to cut men's testicles off. That men will do it for these ladies shows the extent of their power.

But at the end of the day when someone tells you that they think they are a member of the opposite sex you either laugh or think they are nuts.
 
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