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Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by rambot, Nov 21, 2021.

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  1. SilverBear

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    why would I say something so sick, hateful and bigoted?
     
  2. Strathos

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    I've heard those people referred to as "virtuous pedophiles" - they have those feelings but know it's wrong and never act on them.

    That's a far cry from saying that you can't call an actual child predator a pedophile. I wouldn't be surprised if actual child predators would try to appropriate any alternate labels given to those people, though.
     
  3. Strathos

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    If I wanted to paint with as broad a brush as some people, I'd say that all right-wing accusations of pedophilia lost any merit when they came up with the whole 'Hillary Clinton runs a secret child pornography ring in the basement of a pizza parlor that doesn't actually have a basement' and the Alex Jones 'secret child sex colonies on Mars' nonsense. But I know that every single right-wing person doesn't subscribe to these ideas.
     
  4. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    It only takes one crazy person in academia to start an entire movement, and yet efforts to normalize pedophilia to include themselves within the alphabet people has been going on for a while. The MAP term didn't originate with this professor.
     
  5. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    Those things were ridiculous, I agree. What's going on today is more subtle, but it's also getting hard not to notice all the attempts by the media to sexualize young children in various ways. When you change the language around it in an attempt to normalize, the slope continues to get more slippery.
     
  6. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    She wasn't in prison. If a man looks like a woman, you put the person in the holding cell with nobody in it. Yes, they do try to protect child molesters in prisons.
     
  7. bekkilyn

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    The problem is that you can't seem to produce any objective evidence for it. The only remaining excuse, so to speak, was gender dysphoria, but you have denied it as well for the majority, so somehow there are 84% (using your statistics) "transsexuals" who have no objective basis in reality for it. When asked to define what a man is or what a woman is, they don't know.
     
  8. Strathos

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    Well it's already been pointed out that you misrepresented what he said, as he was only referring to those with pedophilic attractions who knew it was wrong and refused to act on it. Associating LGBT with pedophilia has been a traditional tactic of all kinds of people seeking to delegitimize the LGBT movement. There are pedophile supporting groups who have tried to ride the coattails of LGBT movements and try to get themselves included, but they have been pretty consistently rebuked and disowned by all mainstream gay rights groups.

    Of course I'm not saying that there are no LGBT pedophiles, but they are not any more common than straight pedophiles. And pedophilia isn't a political thing either, as there are plenty of incidences of it on both the left and the right. And I'd like to think that the mainstream of both would condemn them most of the time (which is why the Idaho decision I linked was notable - that was a mainstream GOP political body ruling in favor of pedophiles).
     
  9. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    A person with pedophilic attractions is still a pedophile, even if they haven't acted on it yet, just like someone who is heterosexual is still a heterosexual even if he hasn't acted on it yet. See, you're already falling for the slippery slope.
     
  10. coffee4u

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    I hadn't even heard of this one. I know what I would like to say back to that, only I won't since I'm a Christian.
    It doesn't really surprise me though because I know this is the road they are heading down. I've seen it coming. I'm not even sure if half of them are even aware of where they are heading.
    But the end will be legalizing pedophilia so long as the child 'consents' and no doubt that age of consent will be pushed back and back, since how dare we ignore children's sexual needs? How dare we ignore their 'consent'.
    The left is huge on the word consent like that makes a difference. But I can see it as the final logical step down the road of depravity where children are concerned.

    Notice it's always one tiny step at a time and once society becomes use to the first step its easier to present the next step and have that accepted. Once something is fully accepted people consider it normal and fine for children to view.
    The sexual adverts on trains is a good example.

    Most people don't even notice them because they have become conditioned to seeing them. Imagine jumping in a time machine and having those same ads plastered on trains in the 1940's. There would have been general outrage.

    It is mostly mothers. There are obviously some fathers, especially in trans/non binary households but again and again you see the mother who is outspoken driving this while the father stands by silent. On one video- I doubt they expected it, but the mother said in a week they would be going to some rally and the child was like "Do I have to?" The mother was quick to say yes they were. Again the father sat there like a cardboard cut out and quietly said they will enjoy it once they get there and then there was some more low level grumbling from the child about how they would rather play Xbox or some such, at which point it cut off.
    The child is their 'little activist.' that they can show off so proudly while people shower them (the mother) with attention for being so 'woke'. Never mind what the kid wants. It reminds me of Toddles and Tiara's as the mother's doll them up and parade them off.
     
  11. coffee4u

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    Yesterdays outlier becomes today's norm.
     
  12. bekkilyn

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    There is some documentary out on HBO Max or Netflix that I think that comes from. They had already begun sexualizing children, turning them into miniature adults, and then this trans thing makes it even worse. Some are even calling for giving children the right to vote:

    Votes for children! Why we should lower the voting age to six | David Runciman

    So if children have the right to vote, then children can make up their own minds about taking hormones, mutilating their bodies, or even consenting to sex with adults.

    This woke religion of the left has people's brains muddled to not see all of this stuff. They have lost all sense of objective reality and reason. Everything is relative and based entirely on feelings.
     
  13. coffee4u

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    I hadn't seen that, I knew this type of thing would be coming, I just I didn't think it would be suggested quite so soon. Kind of shocking.
    And parents will be able to do nothing about it but watch their children self sabotage.
    A persons brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25. By 6 a child is easily malleable to suggestion, parroting adults and truly knows nothing about the realities of life. Yet adults keep wanting to treat children as if they think like adults-which they do not. When I was 24 I realized 15 year old me knew nothing, so how much less at 6.
     
  14. Strathos

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    Someone who has those feelings but knows that it's wrong and would never act on them has not committed any crime, and I don't think it's fair to associate them with the people who actually do commit such crimes.

    Furthermore, you were suggesting that "the left", as a monolithic entity, was suggesting that pedophiles who act on those urges (aka rapists/criminals) should not be called pedophiles, which is simply untrue.
     
  15. coffee4u

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    And we know for a fact that there are people around who admit that they have a sexual fetish for children yet remain completely pure do they? Willing to have your own child babysat by one?
    The very fact someone has such a warped sex drive signals that there is something very wrong with them.
     
  16. Strathos

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    Perhaps. But self-control can be powerful.

    There are psychopathic people out there who get violent urges to harm people too, and yet many of them are able to suppress them.

    It's a mental disorder and they need help. But it doesn't make them a criminal if they haven't done anything wrong.
     
  17. coffee4u

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    If they truly haven't done anything they are not a criminal no, but that doesn't mean they are pure or safe around children. An alcoholic may be sober many years but they are never truly free of the clutches of alcohol.
    You don't know what people do behind closed doors. They could be watching child porn or fantasizing about the child they saw at the park. Just because a person hasn't yet acted does not mean their mind has not been actively sinning.

    Matthew 5:28
    But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
    This would still hold true if the object of lust was a man or a child.
     
  18. Strathos

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    But in most civilized countries, we have a principle called "innocent until proven guilty".

    I knew you were going to bring that up. But those are God's standards, by which everyone is a sinner, and that includes you and me. I'm talking about how people should be treated by secular governments, police, and authorities. We don't go around arresting people for having impure thoughts.
     
  19. bekkilyn

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    We don't arrest people for not impure thoughts or not acting on their impulses BUT it still doesn't mean we need to water down the language to make pedophilia appear less threatening. We still need to call it as it is rather than condoning or validating it.
     
  20. Pommer

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    “How would people who are so afflicted find the support to get the help that they need if they’re likely to be classified in with actual criminal predators?”, I believe is the question.
     
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