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Featured Tithing, college or health?

Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by Felipe Barbosa, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. Felipe Barbosa

    Felipe Barbosa New Member

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    I live in Brazil I wanted to have a forum like that on my tongue, but for now I did not find it. I live with my parents, but our financial situation is bad, cars here are very expensive items to buy and keep.

    We have healthcare, however, it has never been good, and in the crisis we are currently in the country's healthcare is in the ICU.

    My father from time to time has to buy his diabetes medicine, and the consultations are being rescheduled because of the doctors' strike.
     
  2. vinsight4u

    vinsight4u Contributor

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    /nvm
     
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  3. vinsight4u

    vinsight4u Contributor

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    /nvm
     
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  4. JacksBratt

    JacksBratt Searching for Truth Supporter

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    Have you gone to your Pastor and to your church elders?

    I tithe and I did so throughout my entire working life and when I went to College.

    I did not have the health issues and other trials that you are facing.
    I'll bet that if you go to your church and present your situation, that they will be able to give you some help. Even if it was something in the line of a loan until you get through your schooling and on to a job that allows you to be more financially independent.
     
  5. Oldmantook

    Oldmantook Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the tithe (mandatory amount) is false teaching. The NT teaches giving with a joyful heart. If you can't give joyfully then don't give. Better yet, the church he tithes to should turn around and help him in time of his financial need. The taking of a collection of monies in the NT was for the saints to help other saints in need.
     
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  6. Greg J.

    Greg J. Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There is good general advice that can be given, but for a specific individual in his own unique situation (i.e., you), what to do depends a lot on the character of your faith in God. Possible approaches to dealing with your problems do not even come to my mind, because I do not know you. But I can reiterate some simple principles:

    You do not own yourself (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), but God has made you a steward of your health. With God's help, do the best you can with it. If you already are, then the rest is up to God. (You aren't in control of the consequences of your efforts.)

    You tap into God's nature when you tithe, whether you want to tithe or not. God is the type of person who will bless your socks off in the long-term if you are faithful in tithing. He reveals what he is like regarding this topic in Malachi 3:6-12. If you look at the context of this passage you will see that it is very serious. God equates tithing with returning to God after having rejected him. The desire to tithe but not having the money is a common situation, and God takes that into account, but the rewards of tithing go to those who actually tithe.

    God is in control of everything. Even though you struggle and suffer, trust that God guarantees it will all be well worth it, and his blessings in response will last forever. And he wants to help you with all your problems while you have them. Drawing closer to the Jesus Christ is always worthwhile in the long run. He will answer your prayers and help you to know him better.

    What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith. (Philippians 3:8-9, 1984 NIV)
     
  7. Felipe Barbosa

    Felipe Barbosa New Member

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    I did not know :sweatsmile:, I live in the metropolitan area of Rio. No, I've seen a lot happen with my father, I'll do in a private clinic.
     
  8. SwordmanJr

    SwordmanJr Double-edged Sword only

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    Wommack? I tend to shy away from people who look into a camera and say that they live a holier life than the rest of us....and yes, I have seen and heard him declare that very thing with my own eyes and ears. When he came to our city to collect more money, he announced that he had already met with the biggest, local donors, and would not be available for the rest of the people to meet him personally. Supporting those people's lifestyles is not "tithing." It's a matter of being fleeced. That clearly is not a sentiment Paul of Tarsus would ever have conveyed to his supporters. Satan, yes, but not Paul.

    No thanks. I prefer being a wise steward of what I give to the poor that they may have sustenance for survival, and thus give glory to the Lord for His provision.

    Jr
     
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