beside post #42, there is the comparison of all other times JEsus used the expression 'this generation.' He is not a grasshopper with time frames.
send a detail Doug. FOr ex., whose end times are we talking about? is everything about "us"?
THe important distinction might be what theologians have called the "little period" of the end of the millenium, which is there whether we think the mill is now or not. either way, there is no preoccupation with its details, of knowing them all in advance etc, as you find here. (some of the folks here are obsessed!) The NT is preoccupied with the glory of the historic coming of Jesus in grace; this event was part of "the end" as they knew it. "jesus did not just speak about the end of time; he announced his arrival as part of it"--BRinsmead. THis carries over into Rom 3 where the day of justice and judgement has arrived (past tense) what is more eschatological (re the end) than that!
send a detail Doug. FOr ex., whose end times are we talking about? is everything about "us"?
THe important distinction might be what theologians have called the "little period" of the end of the millenium, which is there whether we think the mill is now or not. either way, there is no preoccupation with its details, of knowing them all in advance etc, as you find here. (some of the folks here are obsessed!) The NT is preoccupied with the glory of the historic coming of Jesus in grace; this event was part of "the end" as they knew it. "jesus did not just speak about the end of time; he announced his arrival as part of it"--BRinsmead. THis carries over into Rom 3 where the day of justice and judgement has arrived (past tense) what is more eschatological (re the end) than that!
The litte season is during the 5th seal - as to when more brethren are slain before God will avenge their blood.
1disciple said:April 68
Nisan-Iyyar 3828 [16th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 489 days of
1335. 444 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 13 2/ 14 3* 15 4+ 16 5+ 17 6+ 18 7+ 19
8+ 20 9+ 21 10/ 22 11/ 23 12/ 24 13/ 25 14/ 26
15/ 27 16/ 28 17/ 29 18/ 30 19/ 1 20/ 2 21/ 3
22/ 4 23/ 5 24/ 6 25/ 7 26/ 8 27/ 9 28/ 10
29/ 11 30/ 12
May 68
Iyyar-Sivan 3828 [17th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 520 days of
1335. 475 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 13 2/ 14 3/ 15 4/ 16 5/ 17
6+ 18 7/ 19 8/ 20 9/ 21 10/ 22 11/ 23 12/ 24
13/ 25 14/ 26 15/ 27 16/ 28 17/ 29 18/ 1 19/ 2
20/ 3 21/ 4 22+ 5 23* 6 24/ 7 25/ 8 26/ 9
27/ 10 28/ 11 29/ 12 30/ 13 31/ 14
June 68
Sivan-Tamuz 3828 [18th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 550 days of
1335. 505 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 15 2/ 16
3/ 17 4/ 18 5/ 19 6/ 20 7/ 21 8/ 22 9/ 23
10/ 24 11/ 25 12/ 26 13/ 27 14/ 28 15/ 29 16/ 30
17/ 1 18/ 2 19/ 3 20/ 4 21/ 5 22/ 6 23/ 7
24/ 8 25/ 9 26/ 10 27/ 11 28/ 12 29/ 13 30/ 14
July 68
Tamuz-Av 3828 [19th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 581 days of
1335. 536 days of 1290.
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 15 2/ 16 3- 17 4/ 18 5/ 19 6/ 20 7/ 21
8/ 22 9/ 23 10/ 24 11/ 25 12/ 26 13/ 27 14/ 28
15/ 29 16/ 1 17/ 2 18/ 3 19/ 4 20/ 5 21/ 6
22/ 7 23/ 8 24- 9 25/ 10 26/ 11 27/ 12 28/ 13
29/ 14 30+ 15 31/ 16
August 68
Av-Elul 3828 [20th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 612 days of 1335.
567 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 17 2/ 18 3/ 19 4/ 20
5/ 21 6/ 22 7/ 23 8/ 24 9/ 25 10/ 26 11/ 27
12/ 28 13/ 29 14/ 30 15/ 1 16/ 2 17/ 3 18/ 4
19/ 5 20/ 6 21/ 7 22/ 8 23/ 9 24/ 10 25/ 11
26/ 12 27/ 13 28/ 14 29/ 15 30/ 16 31/ 17
September 68
Elul-Tishrei 3828 [21st month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 642 days of
1335. 597 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 18
2/ 19 3/ 20 4/ 21 5/ 22 6/ 23 7/ 24 8/ 25
9/ 26 10/ 27 11/ 28 12/ 29 13+ 1 14+ 2 15/ 3
16- 4 17/ 5 18/ 6 19/ 7 20/ 8 21/ 9 22- 10
23/ 11 24/ 12 25/ 13 26/ 14 27* 15 28+ 16 29+ 17
30+ 18
3829 H.Y. (A.D. 68-69) 1st year of the 7th Sabbath Year prior to the
2nd Jubilee of the Christian Advent.
October 68
Tishrei-Cheshvan 3829 [22nd month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 673 days
of 1335. 628 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1+ 19 2+ 20 3+ 21 4+ 22 5/ 23 6/ 24
7/ 25 8/ 26 9/ 27 10/ 28 11/ 29 12/ 30 13/ 1
14/ 2 15/ 3 16/ 4 17/ 5 18/ 6 19/ 7 20/ 8
21/ 9 22/ 10 23/ 11 24/ 12 25/ 13 26/ 14 27/ 15
28/ 16 29/ 17 30/ 18 31/ 19
November 68
Cheshvan-Kislev 3829 [23rd month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 703 days
of 1335. 658 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 20 2/ 21 3/ 22
4/ 23 5/ 24 6/ 25 7/ 26 8/ 27 9/ 28 10/ 29
11/ 30 12/ 1 13/ 2 14/ 3 15/ 4 16/ 5 17/ 6
18/ 7 19/ 8 20/ 9 21/ 10 22/ 11 23/ 12 24/ 13
25/ 14 26/ 15 27/ 16 28/ 17 29/ 18 30/ 19
December 68
Kislev-Tevet 3829 [24th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 734 days of
1335. 689 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 20
2/ 21 3/ 22 4/ 23 5/ 24 6+ 25 7+ 26 8+ 27
9+ 28 10+ 29 11+ 30 12+ 1 13+ 2 14/ 3 15/ 4
16/ 5 17/ 6 18/ 7 19/ 8 20/ 9 21- 10 22/ 11
23/ 12 24/ 13 25/ 14 26/ 15 27/ 16 28/ 17 29/ 18
30/ 19 31/ 20
January 69
Tevet-Sh'vat 3829 [25th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 765 days of
1335. 720 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 21 2/ 22 3/ 23 4/ 24 5/ 25
6/ 26 7/ 27 8/ 28 9/ 29 10/ 1 11/ 2 12/ 3
13/ 4 14/ 5 15/ 6 16/ 7 17/ 8 18/ 9 19/ 10
20/ 11 21/ 12 22/ 13 23/ 14 24+ 15 25/ 16 26/ 17
27/ 18 28/ 19 29/ 20 30/ 21 31/ 22
February 69
Sh'vat-Adar 3829 [26th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 793 days of
1335. 748 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 23 2/ 24
3/ 25 4/ 26 5/ 27 6/ 28 7/ 29 8+ 30 9/ 1
10/ 2 11/ 3 12/ 4 13/ 5 14/ 6 15/ 7 16/ 8
17/ 9 18/ 10 19/ 11 20/ 12 21- 13 22+ 14 23+ 15
24/ 16 25/ 17 26/ 18 27/ 19 28/ 20
March 69
Adar-Nisan 3829 [27th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 824 days of
1335. 779 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 21 2/ 22
3/ 23 4/ 24 5/ 25 6/ 26 7/ 27 8/ 28 9/ 29
10/ 1 11/ 2 12/ 3 13/ 4 14/ 5 15/ 6 16/ 7
17/ 8 18/ 9 19/ 10 20/ 11 21/ 12 22/ 13 23/ 14
24* 15 25+ 16 26+ 17 27+ 18 28+ 19 29+ 20 30+ 21
31/ 22
April 69
Nisan-Iyyar 3829 [28th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 854 days of
1335. 808 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 23 2/ 24 3/ 25 4/ 26 5/ 27 6/ 28
7/ 29 8/ 30 9/ 1 10/ 2 11/ 3 12/ 4 13/ 5
14/ 6 15/ 7 16/ 8 17/ 9 18/ 10 19/ 11 20/ 12
21/ 13 22/ 14 23/ 15 24/ 16 25/ 17 26+ 18 27/ 19
28/ 20 29/ 21 30/ 22
May 69
Iyyar-Sivan 3829 [29th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 885 days of
1335. 839 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 23 2/ 24 3/ 25 4/ 26
5/ 27 6/ 28 7/ 29 8/ 1 9/ 2 10/ 3 11/ 4
12+ 5 13* 6 14/ 7 15/ 8 16/ 9 17/ 10 18/ 11
19/ 12 20/ 13 21/ 14 22/ 15 23/ 16 24/ 17 25/ 18
26/ 19 27/ 20 28/ 21 29/ 22 30/ 23 31/ 24
June 69
Sivan-Tamuz 3829 [30th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 915 days of
1335. 869 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 25
2/ 26 3/ 27 4/ 28 5/ 29 6/ 30 7/ 1 8/ 2
9/ 3 10/ 4 11/ 5 12/ 6 13/ 7 14/ 8 15/ 9
16/ 10 17/ 11 18/ 12 19/ 13 20/ 14 21/ 15 22/ 16
23- 17 24/ 18 25/ 19 26/ 20 27/ 21 28/ 22 29/ 23
30/ 24
July 69
Tamuz-Av 3829 [31st month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 946 days of
1335. 900 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 25 2/ 26 3/ 27 4/ 28 5/ 29 6/ 1
7/ 2 8/ 3 9/ 4 10/ 5 11/ 6 12/ 7 13/ 8
14- 9 15/ 10 16/ 11 17/ 12 18/ 13 19/ 14 20+ 15
21/ 16 22/ 17 23/ 18 24/ 19 25/ 20 26/ 21 27/ 22
28/ 23 29/ 24 30/ 25 31/ 26
August 69
Av-Elul 3829 [32nd month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 977 days of
1335. 931 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 27 2/ 28 3/ 29
4/ 30 5/ 1 6/ 2 7/ 3 8/ 4 9/ 5 10/ 6
11/ 7 12/ 8 13/ 9 14/ 10 15/ 11 16/ 12 17/ 13
18/ 14 19/ 15 20/ 16 21/ 17 22/ 18 23/ 19 24/ 20
25/ 21 26/ 22 27/ 23 28/ 24 29/ 25 30/ 26 31/ 27
September 69
Elul-Tishrei 3829 [33rd month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1007 days of
1335. 961 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 28 2/ 29 3+ 1 4+ 2 5- 3 6/ 4 7/ 5
8/ 6 9/ 7 10/ 8 11/ 9 12- 10 13/ 11 14/ 12
15/ 13 16/ 14 17* 15 18+ 16 19+ 17 20+ 18 21+ 19
22+ 20 23+ 21 24+ 22 25/ 23 26/ 24 27/ 25 28/ 26
29/ 27 30/ 28
3830 H.Y. (A.D. 69-70) 2nd year of the 7th Sabbath Year prior to the
2nd Jubilee of the Christian Advent. Golden Year/Metonic Lunar Cycle
Year. 17 Tamuz, [Tzom Tamuz, Fast of the Fourth Month] (Sat. July 12,
A.D. 70) the daily sacrifice ceases at the Temple of Jerusalem due to
lack of men able to offer it--viz. Josephus Wars VI 2, 1. 10 Av,
Tish'a B'Av, (Sun. Aug. 3, A.D. 70) the Temple of Jerusalem is burnt
by the Roman armies under the command of Titus Vespasian in
fulfillment of the Prophecy given through Daniel and Jesus
Christ--viz. Dan. 9; Matt. 24; Josephus Wars V 10, 1.
October 69
Tishrei-Kislev 3830 [34th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1038 days
of 1335. 993 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 29 2/ 30 3/ 1 4/ 2 5/ 3
6/ 4 7/ 5 8/ 6 9/ 7 10/ 8 11/ 9 12/ 10
13/ 11 14/ 12 15/ 13 16/ 14 17/ 15 18/ 16 19/ 17
20/ 18 21/ 19 22/ 20 23/ 21 24/ 22 25/ 23 26/ 24
27/ 25 28/ 26 29/ 27 30/ 28 31/ 29
November 69
Kislev-Tevet 3830 [35th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1068 days of
1335. 1023 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 1 2/ 2
3/ 3 4/ 4 5/ 5 6/ 6 7/ 7 8/ 8 9/ 9
10/ 10 11/ 11 12/ 12 13/ 13 14/ 14 15/ 15 16/ 16
17/ 17 18/ 18 19/ 19 20/ 20 21/ 21 22/ 22 23/ 23
24/ 24 25+ 25 26+ 26 27+ 27 28+ 28 29+ 29 30+ 30
December 69
Tevet 3830 [1099 days of 1335. 1055 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1+ 1 2+ 2 3/ 3 4/ 4 5/ 5 6/ 6 7/ 7
8/ 8 9/ 9 10- 10 11/ 11 12/ 12 13/ 13 14/ 14
15/ 15 16/ 16 17/ 17 18/ 18 19/ 19 20/ 20 21/ 21
22/ 22 23/ 23 24/ 24 25/ 25 26/ 26 27/ 27 28/ 28
29/ 29 30/ 1 31/ 2
January 70
Sh'vat-Adar I 3830 [36th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1130 days
of 1335. 1085 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 3 2/ 4 3/ 5 4/ 6
5/ 7 6/ 8 7/ 9 8/ 10 9/ 11 10/ 12 11/ 13
12/ 14 13+ 15 14/ 16 15/ 17 16/ 18 17/ 19 18/ 20
19/ 21 20/ 22 21/ 23 22/ 24 23/ 25 24/ 26 25/ 27
26/ 28 27/ 29 28+ 30 29/ 1 30/ 2 31/ 3
March 70
Adar II-Nisan 3830 [37th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1161 days
of 1335. 1116 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 2
2/ 3 3/ 4 4/ 5 5/ 6 6/ 7 7/ 8 8/ 9
9/ 10 10/ 11 11/ 12 12- 13 13+ 14 14+ 15 15/ 16
16/ 17 17/ 18 18/ 19 19/ 20 20/ 21 21/ 22 22/ 23
23/ 24 24/ 25 25/ 26 26/ 27 27/ 28 28/ 29 29/ 1
30/ 2 31/ 3
April 70
Nisan-Iyyar 3830 [38th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1191 of 1335.
1146 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 4 2/ 5 3/ 6 4/ 7 5/ 8
6/ 9 7/ 10 8/ 11 9/ 12 10/ 13 11/ 14 12* 15
13+ 16 14+ 17 15+ 18 16+ 19 17+ 20 18+ 21 19/ 22
20/ 23 21/ 24 22/ 25 23/ 26 24/ 27 25/ 28 26/ 29
27/ 30 28/ 1 29/ 2 30/ 3
May 70
Iyyar-Sivan 3830 [39th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1222 of 1335.
1177 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 4 2/ 5 3/ 6
4/ 7 5/ 8 6/ 9 7/ 10 8/ 11 9/ 12 10/ 13
11/ 14 12/ 15 13/ 16 14/ 17 15+ 18 16/ 19 17/ 20
18/ 21 19/ 22 20/ 23 21/ 24 22/ 25 23/ 26 24/ 27
25/ 28 26/ 29 27/ 1 28/ 2 29/ 3 30/ 4 31+ 5
June 70
Sivan-Tamuz 3830 [40th month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1252 of 1335.
1207 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1* 6 2/ 7 3/ 8 4/ 9 5/ 10 6/ 11 7/ 12
8/ 13 9/ 14 10/ 15 11/ 16 12/ 17 13/ 18 14/ 19
15/ 20 16/ 21 17/ 22 18/ 23 19/ 24 20/ 25 21/ 26
22/ 27 23/ 28 24/ 29 25/ 30 26/ 1 27/ 2 28/ 3
29/ 4 30/ 5
July 70
Tamuz-Av 3830 [41st month of the Seige of Jerusalem. ] 1283 of 1335.
1238 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 6 2/ 7 3/ 8 4/ 9 5/ 10
6/ 11 7/ 12 8/ 13 9/ 14 10/ 15 11/ 16 12/ 17
13- 18 14/ 19 15/ 20 16/ 21 17/ 22 18/ 23 19/ 24
20/ 25 21/ 26 22/ 27 23/ 28 24/ 29 25/ 1 26/ 2
27/ 3 28/ 4 29/ 5 30/ 6 31/ 7
August 70
Av-Elul 3830 [42nd month of the Seige of Jerusalem. 1314 of 1335.
1269 days of 1290.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 8 2/ 9
3- 10 4/ 11 5/ 12 6/ 13 7/ 14 8+ 15 9/ 16
10/ 17 11/ 18 12/ 19 13/ 20 14/ 21 15/ 22 16/ 23
17/ 24 18/ 25 19/ 26 20/ 27 21/ 28 22/ 29 23/ 30
24/ 1 25/ 2 26/ 3 27/ 4 28/ 5 29/ 6 30/ 7
31/ 8
September 70
Elul-Tishrei 3830. [To the end of last month Elul A.D 70, the 42nd
month of the Times of the Gentiles, there are 21 days counted making
1335 days beginning from 25 Kislev A.D. 66, and there are 21 days
counted making 1290 days beginning from Sh'vat 10 A.D. 67.]
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 9 2/ 10 3/ 11 4/ 12 5/ 13 6/ 14
7/ 15 8/ 16 9/ 17 10/ 18 11/ 19 12/ 20 13/ 21
14/ 22 15/ 23 16/ 24 17/ 25 18/ 26 19/ 27 20/ 28
21/ 29 22+ 1 23+ 2 24- 3 25/ 4 26/ 5 27/ 6
28/ 7 29/ 8 30/ 9
I've gone through this study independently myself and it took me months to do so. Is this information from your personal study or is is a cut-n-paste? You are certainly on the right track.
1disciple said:It's a chronology that I've been working on for a while in my own study. It's based on several sources. The first order of business was to confirm that I actually had a good working calendar. I can confirm this with lunar metonic cycles, Josephus, Scripture and modern archaeological evidence. I want to get it as accurate as it possibly can be and I appreciate contributions.
This 42 month chronology is based upon Josephus and several modern works of scholarship. The calendar I have used is HCAL for Linux written in C++ and I do so unapologetically because it is the only one that I can confirm to be consistently accurate even in B.C. dates.
You can take this as a spring board for your own study. If you have questions or find errors, let me know. It's still a work in progress. But I'm confident that this 42 months is correct and it is based upon Josephus as I followed him very carefully all last autumn and even into this past winter. I am also confident that I have the correct dates for Jubilees and the beginning of the ministry of Christ that may be confirmed through several angles of approach. If several people who are able to understand this begin to work on it together, I believe we can produce the most accurate Biblical chronology ever produced. And I think it's needful. I'm currently working on the chronology of the Kings and hope to have it by summer. The last piece of Biblical evidence that pretty much sealed the deal that this was the correct Jubilees cycle was found in the first verse of the first chapter of Ezekiel. Even Keil and Delitszch, who are often good on chronology, show that they had no idea what was being spoken of by '30th' year. However, they should have followed the advise of Seder Olam which stated that Ezekiel received the Merkabah Vision in 30th year since Jubilee, and that clinches the accuracy of the Jubilee Time-line. There is much more to say, but I'll leave it for now.
Thank you for your response; and I was pleasantly surprised to see your study. I'd certainly want to take a closer look at your presentation.
Codger, if you don't mind, could you possibly share any data that you got from your study? I'd appreciate anything. I may have missed a quote or something here and there and if you're into the study of chronology, every little bit helps.
@Larry
Well, let's have it then, Larry. You're the first one I've met who actually understands what I'm trying to do. I have Cheshvan 11. That makes us only a week apart.
I want all your notes and a copy of your timeline to compare against mine. I'm very interested in your research.
The Parable of the Fig Tree?
Jesus ties the parable of the fig tree directly with a time-frame of 40 years concerning that generation, from A.D. 29-70. If it is 1967, are you saying that a Biblical generation is at least 1,939 years long or longer? If so, where did you get such a notion from the Bible? The absurdity of such a statement is apparent even on the surface. Jesus was talking about that current generation from that time to forty years in the future -- A.D. 29-70, through the space of exactly 40 Hebrew years. The fig tree does not represent physical, ethnic Israel in Matt. 24. It was stated directly to the apostles and referred to the new growth of spiritual Israel, the Christian Church during this time and afterward. Jesus is giving his apostles good news even at a time when things will appear to be so bad. At the very time when there is such apparent destruction all around them, they were not to be alarmed because their salvation (deliverance from this wrath wrought through Rome) would be drawing near.
Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh; even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. -- Matt. 24:32-34Refer to post #1 in this thread.
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