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Featured Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by keras, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    All of time periods given are from the middle of the 70th week setting up of the Abomination of Desolation. In the last seven years before Jesus Returns, which will commence with the agreement of a 7 year peace treaty between the leader of the One World Government and the leaders of the nation in the holy Land. The first half will be peaceful, so is not mentioned. But when half is spent; Daniel 9:27, the OWG leader will break it and conquer them, at which time the Great Tribulation also begins.

    Are Daniels’ days of 1260, 1290, and 1335 linked to the fulfilment of the last three Feasts of the Lord?

    Christ fulfilled the four spring feasts at His first Advent.
    They are Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits and Pentecost. Scholars have noted that they were fulfilled precisely and on the day appointed.

    It is accepted by many Bible students, with a fair level of confidence: that Christ will fulfill the Fall Feasts at His second coming…….precisely and on the day appointed.


    They are the: Feast of Trumpets, Feast of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles.

    1260 days……Starting at the midpoint, the Antichrist is given authority for 3 ½ years….42 months…time, times and half a time. These are all equivalents of 1260 days.
    The Antichrists reign ends when Jesus Returns to the earth, which occurs at the end of the 70th week. Satan, the ‘beast’, the Anti-Christ is chained up then.
    It is likely that the Return may occur on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement: Jewish calendar: Tishri 10

    From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1290 days. ……Daniel 12:11

    30 days after Jesus Returns; the Jewish calendar date for 30 days after Tishri 10 is Cheshvan 10. This is the day that Noah and his family entered the ark then 7 days later, the Flood came. Genesis 7:10
    This 30 days may be the celebration of the marriage supper of the Lamb. Revelation 19:5-9 It includes the Feast of Tabernacles, Tishri 15 to 22nd.

    How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! Daniel 12:12

    Hanukkah is the feast that celebrates the rededication of the temple, on Kislev 25
    It was desecrated by the first Abomination of Desolation set up by Antiochus 4th Epiphanes in the second century BC. It is exactly 75 days after Tishri 10.

    The 1335th day may be another rededication of the Temple, again on Hanukkah, the celebration of lighting the candles.

    The remaining Feast, Yom Teruah on Tishri 1; is the Feast of Trumpets.
    This may be the forthcoming Day of the Lord’s wrath, the Sixth Seal event.

    This fits with prophecy, as many scriptures say the Trumpet will be blown on that Day. Joel 2:1-2, Ezekiel 7:14, Zechariah 9:14, Isaiah 18:3, Isaiah 29:6, Jeremiah 29:30-31, Hosea 5:8-9
    Yom Teruah is also the Day that cannot be certainly dated, as it is declared when the first sliver of the new moon is sighted in Jerusalem. You cannot know the Day.....
    This disaster will commence all the end time prophesies.
     
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  4. keras

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    The GT ends with the Return of Jesus and the battle, [destruction]of Armageddon.
    Revelation 19:19-21

    Ethnic Israel is decimated at the Sixth Seal, only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27 The true Israel of God, His faithful Christian people, are gathered to Him by the angels. Matthew 24:30-31

    Your opinions, vunsight4u, are not supported by scripture or any logic.
     
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  7. Douggg

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    The last day of the 7 years may be, the Day Jesus returns.
    So why are there timeframes given other than 1260 days?
     
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    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    This is correct.
    Try actually reading the OP.
     
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    What you have posted is roughly correct. The Seven Trumpets and Seven Vials will happen in a linear sequence. They constitute the Great Tribulation, which will occur during the last 1260 days; from the AoD in the Temple to the Return of Jesus.

    The faithful church is taken to a place of safety on earth for that time. Revelation 12:14 Please do not say they go to heaven, unless you can find a scripture that says that.
     
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    You just made the statement that the 42 months, time times half time are equilvalents of 1260 days.

    "1260 days……Starting at the midpoint, the Antichrist is given authority for 3 ½ years….42 months…time, times and half a time. These are all equivalents of 1260 days."

    My point and question to you is if they are equivalents of 1260 days - why were 42 months and time times half time - given instead of 1260 days ?
     
  11. keras

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    I see those three different ways of saying the same time period, is simply reinforcement and certainty about that last period before Jesus Returns.

    There is also the issue of how 3 1/2 years and 42 months do not fit in our Gregorian Calendar. 3 1/2 years and 42 months are about 1276 days.
    But you have seen my contention posted previously, that the Sixth Seal, Day of the Lord's wrath, will move the earth out of its place. Isaiah 13:13
    The massive sunstrike hitting the earth, as it moves at 66,000mph along its orbital track, will cause it to speed up and make the time of one orbit of the sun to be 360 days. As it was originally. Before the cosmic events that happened during the Exodus.
     
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  15. Douggg

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    reinforcement? how is it reinforcement? There are 1260 days of each half. But it is three different time expressions, not two.

    You could have have argued that the 42 months is to distinguish the second half events from first half events. But there are three different time expressions, not two. Plus the 3 1/2 days.


    Revelation 11:3 - 1260 days, first half
    Revelation 11:2 - 42 months, in second half
    Revelation 11:11 - 3 1/2 days in second half

    Revelation 12:6 - 1260 days, first half
    Revelation 12:7-9 - war in heaven time, in second half
    Revelation 12:14 - time, times, half time, in second half
     
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    What is up with you? I DO quote 3 different time expressions.

    They all pertain to the second half of the last seven years.
    Rev 11:2-3... the gentiles trample the holy city for 42 months....the two Witnesses prophesy for those 1260 days.
    Rev 12:6 the 'woman', [every faithful Christ follower]is taken to safety for 1260 days.....
    Rev 12:14 ..the 'woman' flown to safety for 3 /2 years.
    There is no time given in Rev 12:7-9, but yes, I agree it too is in the 2nd half.

    Douggg, this is a serious misapplication and misinterpretation of scripture on your part. You have made a false statement as if it was factual.
    I want to see you make a full correction of this blatantly wrong post #15
     
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    The 1260 days in Revelation 12 is before the war in heaven, which is before the time, times, half time.

    The seven years.
     
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    More blatant and willful misapplication of scripture.
    The war in heaven, with Satan being thrown out, is immediately after the 'woman', who is the faithful Christians, are taken to their place of safety. Revelation 12:6-9

    This truth is repeated in Revelation 12:13-14 when the dragon saw he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the 'woman'. but they were taken on the wings of a great eagle to where they will be looked after for 3 1/2 years.
    The fact is that the first half of the 7 years treaty, will be peaceful as both sides honor it, for 3 1/2 years. The leader of the One World Govt is the one who breaks it, in force; as we see in Daniel 9:27 and Zechariah 14:1-2

    You, Douggg - have lost any respect that you may have had and need to do much work on your beliefs. Careful reading of what is actually Written, would be a good start.
     
  19. Douggg

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    Keras, you are making accusations based on the translation you have chosen - the recent ESV. Which there is not even a free version online to review, as far as I know.

    I am using the KJV which the timeframes given are exactly what is in the text of the KJV. Here is a copy and paste of the text.

    Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

    Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

    The misinterpretation is on your part. It is Israel who gave birth to Jesus, referring to Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    The woman is Israel, not the church. When the covenant with many is confirmed for the 7 years, Israel is in unbelief in Jesus. So it can't be skewed to be the church, nor "faithful Christians".

    Does your ESV say "faithful Christians", btw, in the text of Revelation 12:1-5 ? I would like to know.


    Revelation 12:13-14 is not a repeat of Revelation 12:6. Israel fleeing into the wilderness in Revelation 12:6, is the Jews fleeing into the wilderness when the abomination of desolation is setup 1335 days before Jesus returns. Revelation 12:6 is before the war in heaven (the second heaven).

    Which the fleeing begins on day 1185 of the 7 years, as the two witnesses battle with beast in Revelation 11. Near the end to the two witnesses' 1260 day testimony time, which they will have been testifying of Jesus and warning Israel not to trust in their new (illegitimate) King of Israel, their perceived messiah, the Antichrist. Feeding them the Word of God.

    The two witnesses are killed on day 1260. Rise back to life on day 1263.5. And the 7th trumpet sounds, signaling Michael/his angels to cast Satan/his angels down to earth - the war in Revelation 12:7-9. Which in the text of the KJV in Revelation 12:14 indicates his short time left is a time, times, half times.

    All of the actions I describe above comes from the text of the KJV bible, i.e. the Antichrist, the 1260 days, the fleeing, abomination of desolation, the 1335 days, the two witnesses waring with the beast, Jesus's return, the 7th trumpet, the time, times, half times.

    Differently, what you are saying as being "fact" is stuff that is not in the KJV bible (KJV, I don't know what is in your ESV version)....but appears to be your interpretations. i.e.......

    7years treaty. half of the "treaty". "peaceful as both sides honor it". 3 1/2 years. One World Gov't. Those are your interpretations, which you say is "fact".

    "The fact is that the first half of the 7 years treaty, will be peaceful as both sides honor it, for 3 1/2 years. The leader of the One World Govt is the one who breaks it, in force; as we see in Daniel 9:27 and Zechariah 14:1-2"

    What you have done, Keras, is taken numerous verses from a questionable translation, the ESV, put them together as an end times scenario cemented together with some of your own interpretations, and presented it for others to believe. ...But I wouldn't call it "fact".
     
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  20. keras

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    Daniel 9:27 The prince, [small 'p', referring to the prince, leader; in the previous verse, who invades Jerusalem] will make a firm league [treaty] with many for one of the seventy, ['weeks'; seven year periods] and with one half spent, he will put a stop to the sacrifices.....and cause the abomination of desolation- in the Temple...….
    Revised English Bible, 1987 Oxford press.

    This verse proves that it is only after half of the last seven years is over; 3 1/2 peaceful years, that the Anti-Christ comes to Jerusalem and stops the sacrifices. FACT.
    It is no wonder that you are confused and in error, when you rely on a Bible written 400 years ago. Any modern translation is better that that.
    Are you aware that the KJV is dedicated not to God, but to King James?
    Satan just loves it when people are fooled by the KJV only cult.
     
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