Thy People shall be Delivered..

[Old Timer]

Maybe it is the Day of The Lord you're struggling with.. How that it shall come as a thief in the night and as travail upon a woman with child.

Is that a difficult one for you in the NT?

I know some people just hate that one..

 

[Old Timer]

Or maybe it's Peter's sermon in Acts where he speaks of the times of refreshing which shall come from the presence of The Lord.. Whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restitution of all things as spoken through the prophets..

That one ?

 

[Interplanner]

The refreshing was the Spirit; the restoration is the 2nd coming and is not Judaic. That one. All things get restored. It was expected right after the DofJ, yes.

 

[Old Timer]

But you're still having a difficult time with the Day of The Lord one aren't you?

It's understandable.. Like I said, a lot of people hate that one.

 

[Interplanner]

The day of the Lord is the day of judgement before the world to come, that restores all things (to where they were before evil). Problem?

 

[Old Timer]

The day of the Lord is the day of judgement before the world to come, that restores all things (to where they were before evil). Problem?

What scripture do you base this on. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Interplanner]

Restoration:
If you mean "restore Judaism" then you have to deal with 2 problems: it was a yoke neither we nor our forefathers could bear (Acts 15) and it was only a reminder of sins (Heb 9).

If you mean "restore all things" (before evil came) then you have something that works.

The DofJ before the day of the Lord/judgement:
Mt24:19. The DofJ happens before the universe is judged. But the day of judgement was allowed to be delayed, and was.

The world to come.
If Paul meant to include an future episode of Judaism, he missed his big chance in Acts 26 on the fulfilled hopes of Judaism, and in Rom 4 on the promise to Abraham being about the world to come "of which we are speaking." This is after the day of judgement, which is why justification from our sins matters so much and is the offer of the Gospel.

 

[Old Timer]

Restoration:
If you mean "restore Judaism" then you have to deal with 2 problems: it was a yoke neither we nor our forefathers could bear (Acts 15) and it was only a reminder of sins (Heb 9).

It shall be the restoration of Israel under the New covenant, not the old. Israel actually knowing The Lord Jesus Christ from the least to the greatest.. Just as it is in His own body today, the church of God.

If you mean "restore all things" (before evil came) then you have something that works.

I'm sure whatever The Lord does is going to work.

The DofJ before the day of the Lord/judgement:
Mt24:19. The DofJ happens before the universe is judged. But the day of judgement was allowed to be delayed, and was.

The world to come.
If Paul meant to include an future episode of Judaism, he missed his big chance in Acts 26 on the fulfilled hopes of Judaism, and in Rom 4 on the promise to Abraham being about the world to come "of which we are speaking." This is after the day of judgement, which is why justification from our sins matters so much and is the offer of the Gospel.

Why are you avoiding the obvious.. What scriptures are you speaking of being future here with respect to that Day?

I think this is too much to ask.

 

[riverrat]

Restoration:
If you mean "restore Judaism" then you have to deal with 2 problems: it was a yoke neither we nor our forefathers could bear (Acts 15) and it was only a reminder of sins (Heb 9).

If you mean "restore all things" (before evil came) then you have something that works.

The DofJ before the day of the Lord/judgement:
Mt24:19. The DofJ happens before the universe is judged. But the day of judgement was allowed to be delayed, and was.

The world to come.
If Paul meant to include an future episode of Judaism, he missed his big chance in Acts 26 on the fulfilled hopes of Judaism, and in Rom 4 on the promise to Abraham being about the world to come "of which we are speaking." This is after the day of judgement, which is why justification from our sins matters so much and is the offer of the Gospel.

The yoke clearly was the law not the restoration of Judaism. See Acts 15:10 and Gal 5:1

 

[Interplanner]

Right. it was the law. Is that what is to be restored? the childtrainer Gal 4?

 

[Old Timer]

See..

Men have problems.. serious problems.. with that future coming DAY..

The Day of the LORD...

The DAY of Jesus Christ..

..which shall comes as...

a thief in the night..

and...

as travail upon a woman with child..

 

[Interplanner]

Is Judaism anything if not the restoration of the law?

 

[Interplanner]

OT, what trouble is that about the Day of the Lord? I think you mean rapture or something. Lost cause.

The Gospel of justification is like a visit to the day of the Lord ahead of time. It seriously depends upon; there has to be justice in this universe. There is no problem with the Day of the Lord here. Carry on.

 

[Old Timer]

OT, what trouble is that about the Day of the Lord? I think you mean rapture or something. Lost cause.

The Gospel of justification is like a visit to the day of the Lord ahead of time. It seriously depends upon; there has to be justice in this universe. There is no problem with the Day of the Lord here. Carry on.

The Day of the LORD is much more than that..

It's the resurrection of the dead..

The church of God meeting the LORD in the air..

The Dragon cast down to the earth and reigning over it for 42 months..

The deliverance of Israel for that times, time, and a half time..

The marriage of the Lamb to His wife..

The LORD coming with thousands and thousands of His saints to destroy the beast and the false prophet..

The millennial kingdom of Christ on earth..

All kinds of things happening in that Day..