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Sure it is, your born a sinner or your not.No. Also, born in sin is not the same as born with sin.
If it's possible to be righteous by works Christ died for nothing.What about it?
We are all our own "Adam" responsible for our own sins. We are not responsible for Adam's sins, nor is anyways else responsible for our sins. Each person is judged for their own sins.
Sure it is, your born a sinner or your not.
If it's possible to be righteous by works Christ died for nothing.
Yes. I was just trying to see if there was another way to view it.Aren't you born in sin?
For all have sinned.No. Also, born in sin is not the same as born with sin.
For all have sinned.
Babies would be included in “all”.Yes all have sinned but that isn't the topic. Are babies born with Adam's sin? Is sin passed from parent to child?
Babies would be included in “all”.
Then you’ll have to say that Paul got it wrong. I’m not willing to do that myself.We all know people eventually sin. I don't believe babies are old enough to be able to sin though. The issue is whether they are born with someone else's sin.
Then you’ll have to say that Paul got it wrong. I’m not willing to do that myself.
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, - Romans 3:23Paul didn't say babies sin. He said every person is a sinner clearly that means when they are past the age of accountability.
First you ignored the exhibition of the entirety of Romans 5:12-21Wrong. Death is passed on only when that person sins their own sin. Adam's sin does not get passed down. It is unscriptural and scripture itself speaks against such a concept:
Eze_18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
I didn't inherit any sin from my father and certainly not from Adam.
Indeed it does.No scripture states Adam's sin was passed down to anyone.
Then why did Paul say by the transgression of Adam all are condemned? He said this after saying we all die.No. Also, born in sin is not the same as born with sin.
Then why did Paul say by the transgression of Adam all are condemned?
Then why do we all die physically and why do we need the Reconciliation in order to enter eternal life?No one is born with anyone else's sin, nor any sin at all.
It is. I proved it in the OP. Start there.We aren't discussing that. We are discussing original sin and whether it is biblical or not.