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Three thought provoking questions.

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I'm sort of new to all of this. My faith is very very strong but in all my searching I haven't been able to find the answers to these questions while trying to understand him and get as close as I can. I talk to him very often and there have been plenty of times where he'll either answer in a number of ways or make sure I know he hasn't forgotten about me.

Everyone here seems to be on the same level I'm on. Everyone here seems to completely believe/know the truth and is completely in love with God like I am. Its very refreshing. After being blessed like this, I really cannot imagine how I lived without him for so long or how others do too. Or how they can deny him in the first place. Out of all the religions in the world with all of the "Gods" they Think they have. God/Jesus is the only that Reached out to us and did everything in his power to show us how much he loves us and that he's with us and very very much involved in everything.

I wonder if there are others here who have wondered the same things.

The first one I have read answers on but I'm not entirely sure on still so I'm asking it to see if others have heard/read the same thing.

What happened to the people who died before Jesus was born and died?

The one repeating answer I read is that no matter who they were they all went to some kind of a holding area for souls until Jesus died in which after that Jesus went down and took them all to heaven. Is that the same understanding everyone else has about it? Or close to it?

The second one I still have no clue about but I'm very curious.

What happened to people who died and die even today that Never Ever, EVER heard of God or Jesus or any faiths that would lead to him? As crazy as it sounds there are people out there even today. There are native tribes in South America that have never been discovered until recently and probably others that still haven't plus all the people in the past who died too. Its impossible to guess at the number of how many but you can bet its in the millions.

I cannot imagine God, who knows absolutely everything that ever was, is, and will be about every single one of us that is alive now and who will be alive down to the number of hairs on our heads, who has the absolute power to do anything Anything he wants with it and decided to create us and love us on the unlimited scale and did everything he could to tell us that he does, could allow these unlucky people who are victims of their not so modern, isolated circumstances to slip through the cracks or any loop holes. People that have heard have the free will choice of believing in him or not. Someone that has never heard in any way never even has the choice at all. But the fact remains that He loves us all and he would know if someone never heard of him too just like everything else.

That's what my heart tells me from understanding him as best I can but like he said himself. He's not us. He doesn't think like we do. He doesn't see things like we do. So I think I'll never really know this one unless I can ask him himself. Which leads me to the last question.

Does anyone think that once we die we'll be able to spend one on one time with him? According to what I've read. In heaven there isn't going to be a sun to give us light. It'll be God himself that keeps everything bright with all his glory and love for us that we're going to be basking in constantly.

But that doesn't say that he's going to be down with us on whatever level we're going to be on. I know that we'll be able to see him. But I haven't seen anything that would mean we can be with him one on one. I don't see why it couldn't be. He can be all places at once. In heaven and on Earth.

I have. So much I want to say to him. Even though he already knew/knows now what I want to say I feel the need to. I say it all the time in my mind and out loud but I still hope I'm able to say it all in person. Plus I have so many more questions.

The thought of it makes my eyes water up. I'd flop to the floor (if there are floors in heaven) because that would be the lowest I could possibly get in front of him. Bowing or kneeling wouldn't be enough to me.

Sorry for the long post. I've always been a big thinker. But since I started trying very hard to be as close to him as I can while I'm stuck down here I think mostly about him. I could say a lot more but this is to long already.

I wondered what everyone else thought. I'll be around here and there.
 

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Question 1. What happened to the people who lived before Christ.

Well as always we can speculate, we can use human reasoning about how things should be... however the bible is the rule. You will find they are in exactly the same place as the people who died after Christ.

Peter lets us know in Acts 2:29 Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.... vs 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

When we die we sleep in the grave until Christ returns with Power and Glory to take us all to heaven, both living and dead.

1 thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Over and over again death is refered to as sleep, we will awake at the ressurection when Christ returns. We are told He will return with His reward, the bible tells us we receive that when He comes and not before.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
 
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Question 2.

There are always consequences when believers fail to follow the commands of Christ. Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

A failure on our part as believers to put a whole hearted effort here, with time and resources will cost souls! I think in part we like to think that people who don't know are gonna be ok, but on what basis? And a good question is... Why don't they know? God will empower us but we still have a work to do.

Now that being said is their case hopeless? I don't think so, but I think they are in a much much worse situation. Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

God desperately wants them saved.... Of that we can be sure of!
 
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What happened to the people who died before Jesus was born and died?

What happened to people who died and die even today that Never Ever, EVER heard of God or Jesus or any faiths that would lead to him?
My answers to both of these questions is Romans 5:12-13:

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned - for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but sin is not taken into account when there is no law.


I have to believe that God will make some sort of provision for those who never have a chance to hear about Jesus. I have no idea what that is, but I trust Him.


Does anyone think that once we die we'll be able to spend one on one time with him?

Jesus has been such a personal, loving God to me. I see no reason why He would be any less personal and one-on-one when we are actually with Him. We are His bride. What bridegroom doesn't desire to spend time alone with His bride? We will each have a private relationship with Jesus. I don't know what form that relation will take, but I can't wait to find out!!

I have a book that I wrote, and there are several writers on this forum, and our visions tend to indicate a very personal, private relationship with Christ.
 
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John 5:25
I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.

Jesus preached to the dead . As Psalm 115 implies . those who worshipped idols with no sensory perception . so were they in death and did not hear Jesus preaching the good news . but according to Paul in his speech to Athens (in Acts) that God was okay with letting people being in ignorance up until now when Jesus came . so people in other religions prior to the gospel entering their culture would have had a manner to communicate with God also . and you can be sure you will see some of them in the kingdom also .

Romans 2

14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

Does anyone think that once we die we'll be able to spend one on one time with him?

Space and time is really bendable to non-existent there from what i understand . so yes there will be a lot of "one on one" time for everyone at the same time . an illustration of one on one time in the bible is in Revelation:

Revelation 21:4

4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
 
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As far as your second question, stay away from Universalism my friend. The cornerstone of false religions and Satan's lie is saying you do not need Jesus to go to heaven.

Romans 1:20

20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Yes even those who never heard of Jesus are going to hell. Heres the situation: We are all destined to go to hell. We deserve hell for breaking God's law, a law from a perfectly just judge of the universe. The only acceptable payment for the forgiveness of sins is pure innocent shed blood. Jesus accomplished that on the cross. Since we are in a sinful state inherited by Adam's original sin, we wan't nothing to do with God (hence why people put blind faith into the fairy tale of evolution).

Romans 8:28-29: “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.”

So God fixes that by loving us first, giving us faith to believe in him. If God predestined people in remote areas who never heard of God to become christians then an event would happen (a missionary visiting a tribe who never heard of Jesus, etc. etc.). Even though we are born into a sinful state we are still held accountable for our sins. Its God's amazing mercy and love that he saves some while others he leaves to perish in their state which they deserve. One reason I see why people have a problem with this is because they think us humans are entitled to anything. We are only entitled to hell and its God's mercy and love that he pulls us out of our fate.
 
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Regarding the question of if we will get one-on-one time with God in heaven. I believe we will because we already get one-on-one time with him on earth in prayer, he gave that to us so we could talk with him and I think that is beautiful. I guess the point I am trying to make is that is he is able to give us one-on-one time with us here on Earth, I don't know why the relationship or "rules" would change in heaven. God will always want a relationship with us. <3
 
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Answer to question 1: they're going to Hell.

Answer to question 2: they're going to Hell.

Answer to question 3: God is omnipresent, so...duh!

Look...facts might be harsh, but facts are facts. God only loves those who believe in Him. We should stop mourning those who are destined to Hell and only focus on our own salvation.
 
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