Three Teachers Who Wore Masks and Gloves Still Got Sick

[Introverted1293]

"All three teachers wore masks and gloves, used hand sanitizer and socially distanced, but still got sick according to school officials at the small community in the eastern part of the state."

Three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom got coronavirus. One of them died

This is scary. You can still get sick, while wearing masks and gloves and washing hands. But I also wear a face shield. I hope that helps a lot. This scaring me even more. I have so much anxiety. It scares me. My mom doesn't practice social distance, and I am unwilling to see her or be around her as a result. She doesn't think it is a big deal.

I am having a hard time of thinking about others. I only think about myself because I am scared. I get so angry with my neighbors that want to talk to me and even hug me. My neighbor who is lonely wants to hang out with me, and I can't do it. I want to scream at my neighbors, "WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC, SO STOP APPROCHING ME!!!!!"

I don't know how to deal with this fear. I hate shopping, which I have to do for we don't have delivery service here, because some people don't respect the social distancing rules. But then again, from this article, that may not always work.

Update: I recognize that I made this all about me, which was wrong. I should have said please pray for their families. Like I said, I have become very selfish.

 

[Introverted1293]

This is why I've told my mother not to work with Covid patients at her job unless she really has to.

It's just too risky.

I would be afraid too if my mom worked with Covid patience.

 

[Rescued One]

"All three teachers wore masks and gloves, used hand sanitizer and socially distanced, but still got sick according to school officials at the small community in the eastern part of the state."

Three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom got coronavirus. One of them died

This is scary. You can still get sick, while wearing masks and gloves and washing hands. But I also wear a face shield. I hope that helps a lot. This scaring me even more. I have so much anxiety. It scares me. My mom doesn't practice social distance, and I am unwilling to see her or be around her as a result. She doesn't think it is a big deal.

I am having a hard time of thinking about others. I only think about myself because I am scared. I get so angry with my neighbors that want to talk to me and even hug me. My neighbor who is lonely wants to hang out with me, and I can't do it. I want to scream at my neighbors, "WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC, SO STOP APPROCHING ME!!!!!"

I don't know how to deal with this fear. I hate shopping, which I have to do for we don't have delivery service here, because some people don't respect the social distancing rules. But then again, from this article, that may not always work.

Have you called your Walmart? They are delivering to me.

I put my hand up to someone and said "Stay six feet away!" I'm sorry about your mom. Some people are like that.

My oldest daughter has been sick all week. She got tested a week ago but doesn't have the results.

 

[mama2one]

have you tried target.com
am one who has never ordered online before but started this past month...UPS delivers order to door

also, check all the grocery stores near you as some stores have contactless delivery/you just pop the trunk

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Article information about the dead teacher.

“She was prone to sinus infections, and also had asthma, diabetes and lupus.”

So clearly she was not well. Also whatever some school district says we have no information how diligently those teachers actually applied preventive measures.

That being said none of those preventive measures are fool proof, but if you are over 60 with sinus infections, asthma, diabetes and lupus you definitely should be refusing the work on classrooms on medical basis.

Quite sad if she was unable to do so because of US abysmal social non care.

 

[Arc F1]

"All three teachers wore masks and gloves, used hand sanitizer and socially distanced, but still got sick according to school officials at the small community in the eastern part of the state."

Three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom got coronavirus. One of them died

This is scary. You can still get sick, while wearing masks and gloves and washing hands. But I also wear a face shield. I hope that helps a lot. This scaring me even more. I have so much anxiety. It scares me. My mom doesn't practice social distance, and I am unwilling to see her or be around her as a result. She doesn't think it is a big deal.

I am having a hard time of thinking about others. I only think about myself because I am scared. I get so angry with my neighbors that want to talk to me and even hug me. My neighbor who is lonely wants to hang out with me, and I can't do it. I want to scream at my neighbors, "WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC, SO STOP APPROCHING ME!!!!!"

I don't know how to deal with this fear. I hate shopping, which I have to do for we don't have delivery service here, because some people don't respect the social distancing rules. But then again, from this article, that may not always work.

The particle size of a virus is smaller than the mask can filter out. Also the masks aren't sealed to your face. The virus has been shown to travel 27 feet just from talking and it lives for hours on surfaces that it lands on. A face shield that doesn't seal to your face will let the virus into your eyes.

 

[Introverted1293]

The particle size of a virus is smaller than the mask can filter out. Also the masks aren't sealed to your face. The virus has been shown to travel 27 feet just from talking and it lives for hours on surfaces that it lands on. A face shield that doesn't seal to your face will let the virus into your eyes.

Thank you. I do have glasses that seal to my eyes. But that is very helpful.

 

[Introverted1293]

Article information about the dead teacher.

“She was prone to sinus infections, and also had asthma, diabetes and lupus.”

So clearly she was not well. Also whatever some school district says we have no information how diligently those teachers actually applied preventive measures.

That being said none of those preventive measures are fool proof, but if you are over 60 with sinus infections, asthma, diabetes and lupus you definitely should be refusing the work on classrooms on medical basis.

Quite sad if she was unable to do so because of US abysmal social non care.

That is sad.

 

[Introverted1293]

Me too. My dad works as a bus driver in the city, I'm glad they don't allow people to get on the buses from the front any longer.

Agreed. That is good

 

[Introverted1293]

have you tried target.com
am one who has never ordered online before but started this past month...UPS delivers order to door

also, check all the grocery stores near you as some stores have contactless delivery/you just pop the trunk

Yeah, I have. They don't deliver in my area. Thank you

 

[Introverted1293]

Have you called your Walmart? They are delivering to me.

I put my hand up to someone and said "Stay six feet away!" I'm sorry about your mom. Some people are like that.

My oldest daughter has been sick all week. She got tested a week ago but doesn't have the results.

Yeah, I have. But they don't deliver in my area.

I hope your daughter gets well soon. And I hope she doesn't have the virus. But if she does I pray she gets well.

 

[Paulos23]

Another risk factor here is that it looks like they where in a classroom for long periods of time. Even if you socially distance, unless the air in the classroom is refreshed at a high rate, you will get exposed to any virus if you stay in that room more than 20 minutes. Enough cases in my state showed that social distancing in a small room does not keep you safe if the air is not circulated with the outside air well.

Most grocery stores in my area have upped the air coming in and out to help with this, and their size as well, !air them less risky than a classroom.

 

[Bobber]

This scaring me even more. I have so much anxiety. It scares me. My mom doesn't practice social distance, and I am unwilling to see her or be around her as a result. She doesn't think it is a big deal.

I am having a hard time of thinking about others. I only think about myself because I am scared. I get so angry with my neighbors that want to talk to me and even hug me. My neighbor who is lonely wants to hang out with me, and I can't do it. I want to scream at my neighbors, "WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC, SO STOP APPROCHING ME!!!!!"

Introverted please for your own sake don't feel you have to have such extreme feelings of exasperation stressing you out. What I mean is you say you feel like screaming at your neighbours. Look just relax and talk to them how you feel and don't think you can't do that. Just be honest but clear on how you feel. You could say words like, "Look I'm sorry I have my own thoughts about what social distancing should mean and I'm really wanting to take it seriously. Maybe some day in the future of things all these things will change which we can all hope it will but right now I can't entertain the notion of being around anyone....sorry but it's just the way I'm wanting to handle it and I hope you understand.

I don't know how to deal with this fear. I hate shopping, which I have to do for we don't have delivery service here, because some people don't respect the social distancing rules. But then again, from this article, that may not always work.

I see from your profile you're a Christian. You know probably all the scriptures I'm sure....God doesn't want us to have a spirit of fear......and we're to cast our cares or anxieties upon the Lord.

Here's a practical way of doing that. When I feel stress about certain things and I'm not even talking about things of the virus but whatever things in life I force myself to envision all my stress and worry like a big sack.....But I envision Jesus carrying it. I keep this picture in my mind. I'm not carrying it....he is! And I thank him for it.

 

[Richard T]

As to the teacher's and their masks, we do not know what kind of masks they were wearing. I wear an N95, which is not perfect but better than most. A face shield and a mask should certainly be effective.
Also, the amount of time a person spends in a place can matter. For instance, being in a classroom for hours with someone infected is far different from going to the store for 30 minutes. I doubt the ventilation in a classroom is very good and teachers do not move around much either. My point is, that you are doing everything you can with this. If everyone were like you, the hospitals would not be filling up. Still, I do hope you can get on with your life to an extent. Why not visit with your mom if you can keep your distance and wear a mask? Anyway, be blessed going in and be blessed going out as it says in Deuteronomy.

 

[renniks]

Your chances of dying from the virus are tiny. Why worry about that when I'm sure you don't worry about hundreds of other ways you could be hurt or die? It's irrational. Pray about it and let it go.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I don't wear a mask but may be forced to now the mayor is wanting to mandate masking.
One thing I have noticed about people who wear masks is a tendency to ignore distancing measures as many feel the mask "protects" them and "keeps them safe" and many people on tv and in the media and commercials constantly suggest, insinuate, even brag that masks make you "safe" and "stop" the virus and that is not true.
One could conclude logically masks cannot totally stop the virus aren't making people completely safe either.
If a mask was made that could totally make one safe they would demand everyone in the country have one of them if possible instead of just demanding ANY mask be worn even something as effective as two rubber bands stapled to a kleenex is considered "acceptable" by authorities as is IMO as effective after one cough or sneeze as no mask at all.
Since we aren't given masks for the general public they are assuming infections will continue they are only interested in slowing the numbers down so maybe less people will not die due to overloaded hospitals and make those in charge look bad to their peers.
If I were truly in charge I would not blather on like I'm an expert and tell people to wear masks and assume they will be "experts" and spend a lot more money to get high quality masks I would somehow find funds to purchase and give masks to my "people" that would ensure predictably increased effectiveness.
With all the hype about "making you safe" and "stopping the virus" that masks are insinuated to do I often see people with masks on not bothering to distance properly and IMO distancing is more effective at preventing transmission than a mask is. Masks effectiveness is most useful when distancing is not possible.
One thing people fail to remember is almost always when they talk about masking the ALSO tell people to distance. It is not an either or when it comes to masks. Non masking and masking BOTH should distance.
I am betting these teachers were sitting at the same table a foot or two apart talking.
Another issue I have is the logic of masks is that I consider themselves a possible "jumping" off platform in that people talk, shout, cough, and sneeze to expel through them and even if they aren't infected someone infected can pick up virus on their mask and then either suck it through the mask somehow when they breath in or expel it off the mask to someone else to possibly infect them. People seem to think that once the virus land on the mask either inside or outside of it, it is totally trapped and contained or destroyed. I think that is not correct.
I also contend that it is possible a mask from someone infected can become saturated with virus as the infected person breathes through it the virus particles that are not expelled end up building up in the mask and then the person has increased air output for some reason that pushes through the mask and the buildup of virus laden moisture causes a burst of virus to be expelled that has a lot more virus in it than a person without a mask would have in a single breath. It could be possible that a non masked person infected would have perhaps 100 virus particles in their normal breath, and a masked person could have the same but the mask traps them and after 10 breaths some of those in the mask trapped are pushed out... perhaps half of them so you get 500 particles coming out instead of 100. If someone took 20 breaths that didn't push any virus particles out you could have 2000 particles trapped in the mask and ejecting half would have 1000 pushed at in one blast instead of the 100 from a non masked person.
Now this may be defeated by a better mask with more layers that absorb moisture better but a cheaper mask it may be considerably more possible. If you have ever sneeze on a kleenex a few times and felt how wet it was and the wetter it became the less effective it was to keep your hand dry and even parts of your hand not touching it got wet... you have an idea.

 

[Sophrosyne]

One other thing..... I read an article written to health professionals on how to use masks at a hospital. It plainly states when a mask becomes damp it must be replaced. It pretty much says a wet mask loses effectiveness and is no longer "safe". I am betting a lot of infections may be related to people whose masks get too wet from them breathing through them and not changing them for dry ones.

 

[HisCrossMyPeace]

Why is at teacher at 61 with astha and diabetis (II, i suppose) at work? She is in risk class I and here in Norway a such person would get fined for doing a job where no possibility for keeping rules for social distanceing. The employer would get a harsher fine if a such person was allowed staying at the premises. An employee into risk class II gives an em employer two possiblieites: a) Arrange the work in a such way that the distancing will be kept: b) Temporary unemploy the person due to the extraordinary circumstanses, allowing the employee receivng 50 % of last eight weeks average salary for ordinary work in aid from NAV ( “Norwegian Work and Welfare”,the Norwegian social secury system combined with job centres) .

No delivery service for food, Introverted1293? Everyone here needing it due to compulsory quarantene has one minum once a week.Availabilty for that is the district’s responcibilty and often arranged this way: Order by internet at designated shops in the district, request a “pick and pack” (min order equal to 50 USD, fee equal to 6 USD for orders equal to 50-100 USD, 0 USD for larger) and pay by the BankAxept debit card (all Norwegians have one). Certified persons employed in district pick up prepaired boxes for taking these to tthe districts “distribution central”. Certified voluntary workers (churches, Blue Cross, NF (socialist-based, "Norwegian People's Help"), athletic clubs, soccer clubs, using their own cars pick up here, deliver to home and are paid ecual to about 0,24 USD/km or 0.40 USD/mile from the district for this assistance. Counting from the day our Prime Minister, Healt Minister and King called for a national “dugnad” (=voluntary work when done the traditonal Norwegina way) got that systemor something better up and running in each and every district needed. Adresses not covered by Post Norways prescribed drugs delivery serivice also get prescribed drugs the same way.

Why havent US got a similar (or better) system? The possibilites should be better in US than in tiny Norway with zero tradions for food delvery service outside our 4-5 largest cities.

 

[Albion]

I am betting these teachers were sitting at the same table a foot or two apart talking.

It's true that we don't have enough information to be capable of saying what caused these three to become infected. It could be that prolonged exposure, even while wearing a mask, such as in a classroom, greatly increases the odds. BUT it could also be that something like what you referred to here is the actual culprit--or some contact outside of the classroom. This isn't to minimize anything, but we just do not know.

 

[Sophrosyne]

It's true that we don't have enough information to be capable of saying what caused these three to become infected. It could be that prolonged exposure, even while wearing a mask, such as in a classroom, greatly increases the odds. BUT it could also be that something like what you referred to here is the actual culprit--or some contact outside of the classroom. This isn't to minimize anything, but we just do not know.

Agreed. But a new study I heard of last night on the news is claiming children don't spread the virus so if that is true she had to get it from an adult which greatly decreases the scenarios of her contracting it.