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Thomas tears into abortion precedent, says Roe v. Wade should fall in dissent on Louisiana case

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by 98cwitr, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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  2. Blade

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    Ever read the quote from the woman that stated it (about abortion)? Was so evil..

    Thank you for this.
     
  3. FireDragon76

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    The majority ruled against the Louisiana law because the court had already ruled against such laws in the state of Texas. As a true conservative, Roberts recognizes the value in precedent. Established legal regimes should not be changed on mere political whims.
     
  4. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    Care about living babies, children and grownup's . More then an unborn clump of cells . Nobody should care more about a clump cells, than people all ready born. It's just fake tears.
     
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  6. FireDragon76

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    Trump is a conman who, like all conmen, shamelessly overpromises.
     
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  7. TLK Valentine

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  8. grasping the after wind

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    Good thing he doesn't get the opportunity to uphold the precedent set by the Dred Scott decision.
     
  9. TLK Valentine

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    The Thirteenth Amendment rendered that decision moot.

    I'd be surprised if he didn't know that; it was in all the papers...
     
  10. grasping the after wind

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    As I said he won' t get the opportunity to reaffirm the precedent. However if the Citizen's United decision is looked at again he can reaffirm that and I am sure all those that hail his love of precedent on Roe will be right there applauding him again.
     
  11. GreatLakes4Ever

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    I don’t think it was on this website but I did opine that Roberts did the right thing for the wrong reason and while I agree with the ruling his opinion left a bitter taste in my mouth for the very reason you pointed out. His argument taken to its logical conclusion would declare the Supreme Court infallible.
     
  12. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    That darn Constitution.

    Good move; choosing another court case. Now all you have to do is realize that we like upholding good precedents, not abominable ones like Scott.

    Citizens United is a tricky one -- the implications are abominable and the justices were naive, but the law is solidly on their side: Donating money is a form of speech. It's going to take a Constitutional Amendment to fix that one.
     
  13. Tinker Grey

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    I'm beginning to think (not because of your post, per se) that taking things to their logical conclusion is the wrong thing to do. For one, it is very akin to a slippery slope fallacy. For two, in the case of SCOTUS, it can and has over-turned itself. One needs a compelling reason for doing so.

    What Roberts has done is say that A) we just made this decision, B) the arguments haven't changed -- no new information is added in this case, and C) changing that decision just because we can (the composition of the court has changed) would be wrong.

    Roberts doing anything else would have made the court a tool of political ideologies.
     
  14. Tinker Grey

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    Prima facie, I think the right decision is that corporations aren't people and don't get the same rights as an individual human.
     
  15. TLK Valentine

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    Prima facie, I think the right decision is that the ruling only applies to public, transparent donations. The purpose of speech -- in any form -- is to be heard; any attempt to conceal the donations indicates that the intention was never for it to be construed as speech.
     
  16. Tinker Grey

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    I'd buy that, too. But, I still think that considering corporations people doesn't work. Yours might fly better than mine, though.
     
  17. FireDragon76

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    If this case involved presenting a better argument, that would be one thing, but the Court was presented with the same rehashed arguments.
     
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