This world is without sin; however, there is still evil.

[Kenneth Redden]

Go ahead, open your mind; it won't hurt a bit. You won't get in trouble, I promise.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Unless you understand the method, you will never understand the content.

 

[Light of the East]

Now THAT is complete fallacy.

The Catholic Church denied God's Word to the congregation in order to HIDE the truth from them.

You don't torture and murder people simply because they may misinterpret God's Word. You torture and murder people to HIDE the truth.

Blessings,

MEC

Hahahahahaha!!!!! Ridiculous! It was the Church that gave you the canon of Scripture and that painstakingly transcribed the originals into the English language. There was no "hiding the truth" from anyone. The great mass of people were ignorant savages (Jesus called us sheep, meaning dumb, stupid, self-destructive animals incapable of taking care of ourselves) who couldn't read and if they could, they would have gotten it all wrong.

The Church didn't torture and murder anyone. That's yet another lie that Protestants have bantered around for 5 centuries. It was John Knox who murdered priests for being Catholic. It was Henry VIII and his henchmen who stole monastic lands, killed priests and religious, and destroyed the Catholic faith for not following his horniness. You have your history backwards.

 

[John Hyperspace]

Unless you understand the method, you will never understand the content.

I'm always a listener first and always willing to give a fair hearing. But I don't have enough information to fully understand what's being said; can you elaborate?

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

cool story bro...

 

[Kenneth Redden]

While I agree: Kenneth is on one of those 'personal adventures' that the rest of us can't even comprehend, he is harmless in that no one is really even listening to, much less considering his words.

Science often 'proves' God's Word. But in this case, science has little to do with the discernment of 'sin'. For sin isn't something that can be measured, tested, or determined by 'formula' other than The Word or the Holy Spirit.

Science cannot define the 'darkness' of one's soul nor measure it.

It is only through the Spirit that such can be adequately recognized and defined.

So the idea that science is capable of proving one 'sinless' is ridiculous. No science I am aware of would even contemplate trying to determine such a concept.

Ken is simply seeking to create something of his own design. While he may not be alone, he's certainly on a 'separate path' than that revealed in God's Word.

Blessings,

MEC

But I have verifiable proof.
But you are missing the point. Sin is to deny the faith of the Word of the LORD in the creation of the heaven, and of the earth. A person's personal issues are not sin.
Science did not choose to prove the truth in the Word of the LORD, it's just the way it is. When you prove the truth of the laws of the Universe, you prove the truth of the Word of God.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

cool story bro...

Thank you, THE W.

 

[food4thought]

My guess is that he's an atheist trolling us... at least I hope that is the case.

 

[food4thought]

According to Paul's interpretation, today, is the fourth day of the creation

OK... just in case... let's start here. How do you discern that according to Paul's interpretation we are in the 4th day of creation?

 

[EmeraldFields]

I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying you don't sin ,and are perfect?

 

[Kenneth Redden]

I'm always a listener first and always willing to give a fair hearing. But I don't have enough information to fully understand what's being said; can you elaborate?

Yes, I know. I have been trying to get a dialogue started, but I may need help with clarity.
We must first set the premise.
The KJV Bible is the inspired Word of God, and with Concordance and Lexicon; our only reference texts to be used in the study.

The KJV Bible appears to have two views. The first is with those of the scriptures. The second is for us of the second millennium, according to Paul's revelation in Ephesians 3:2-3.
We believe that passages of scripture, throughout the KJV Bible, communicate using "few words" and that by this we learn about the works of the Lord from the beginning of the creation. This is the only interpretation in the KJV Bible.

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

I know that I am without sin, Science has proven it for me; but evil, its still here; look at the holocaust.

how does science prove your sinless.... and why do you even need science to do that for you anyway? You should know for yourself if you're saved, if you're not sinning all the time, if you're not lying, stealing, etc. The bible says EXAMINE YOURSELF!

 

[brinny]

Of course sin is gone, Jesus's work is finished and sin has been taken away from the world, John 19:30 & John 1:29.

According to Paul's interpretation, today, is the fourth day of the creation, and the entire KJV Bible was said from the third day of the creation. On the third day He had come by water only. Now, today, the fourth day; He has come by water and blood and this is what has taken sin away from the world, 1 John 5:6. Thank you.

If it's the fourth day of creation, why are there animals here?

 

[John Hyperspace]

Yes, I know. I have been trying to get a dialogue started, but I may need help with clarity.
We must first set the premise.
The KJV Bible is the inspired Word of God, and with Concordance and Lexicon; our only reference texts to be used in the study.

The KJV Bible appears to have two views. The first is with those of the scriptures. The second is for us of the second millennium, according to Paul's revelation in Ephesians 3:2-3.
We believe that passages of scripture, throughout the KJV Bible, communicate using "few words" and that by this we learn about the works of the Lord from the beginning of the creation. This is the only interpretation in the KJV Bible.

Okay, still with you. Are you able to formulate a general hypothesis, if you know what I mean? Something that lays the basic idea.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

OK... just in case... let's start here. How do you discern that according to Paul's interpretation we are in the 4th day of creation?

Okay, good place. This can be seen with his doublet in 2 Peter 3:3-8. The word "day" is used in the chapter six times. It begins from everlasting the first day with, "Knowing this first" and "days" in verse three, and "from the beginning of the creation" in verse four. Notice this first day is referenced with "the last days", of which the KJV Bible is the written Word of God for these last days of the creation; when he made the stars also in Genesis 1:16.
The second day is referenced with the two waters' in verse five and death in verse six. It returns to the third day with "now" in verse seven that "by the same word" becomes the fourth day for those reading the KJV Bible today, that may learn about the fifth day and sixth day in verse eight. The fifth day twice and the beginning of the sixth day are recorded in Revelation 20:1-7.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Okay, still with you. Are you able to formulate a general hypothesis, if you know what I mean? Something that lays the basic idea.

Passages throughout the KJV Bible communicate, using few words; to give knowledge about the days of the creation.

 

[Victor E.]

Thank you. This, sin of the world in John 1:29, is to deny the Faith of the Word of the LORD, Galatians 2:20, Ephesians 4:13 & Revelation 2:13; as put forth in Psalms 33:6. Sin was created with the doctrine of the Nicolaitans in Revelation 2:15, from the beginning in Revelation 2:6. On the third day, it was called the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. This is why the, "scribes," "love to go in long clothing, and [love] salutations in the marketplaces" in Mark 12:38 and this is what scripture is talking about in 2 Corinthians 5:1-3.
So, it is deviating from the laws of the creation, according to the Word of the LORD; which is the sin of the KJV Bible. A person's personal choices are not sin and have nothing to do with how the Word of the LORD made the heavens! Amen?

"You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?

Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect." Matthew 5:43-48

"If anyone teaches another doctrine and disagrees with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and with godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. Instead, he has an unhealthy interest in controversies and semantics, out of which come envy, strife, abusive talk, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind who are devoid of the truth. These men regard godliness as a means of gain." 1 Timothy 6:3-5

Christ IS our righteousness (makes us right with God) but we are called to model Him (love in obedience) out of thanks and honor for all He has done.

We are blameless through faith, but we are still imperfect (sinful) and in constant need of Him as we repent and become sanctified in Truth/Love.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying you don't sin ,and are perfect?

No, I am saying that sin no longer exist in the world. You couldn't sin if you wanted to.

 

[friend of]

John 1:8

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

 

[aiki]

I know that I am without sin, Science has proven it for me; but evil, its still here; look at the holocaust.

What do you mean by "sin"? And how do you reconcile your thinking to those verses in Scripture (like 1 John 1:8-10) that say you are sinful? Here are some other Bible verses that defy your idea of the eradication of sin:

1 Timothy 5:20
20 Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.

Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins

James 1:15
15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

James 4:17
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.

2 Peter 2:12-14
12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,
13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you,
14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.

How can any of these verses and passages exist in Scripture, if, indeed, sin no longer exists?

Selah.