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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by JohnB445, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. JohnB445

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    I believe there is some deeper prophetic meanings in Genesis.

    1000 years is like a day to the Lord. In 6 days he created the Earth and on the 7th he rested from his work. There are 7 seals on the scroll. The special number is 7, the bad number is 6.

    1.The first day there was Light (0-1000) Era of Adam and Eve, God was there with them

    2.The second day there was Water (1000-2000) Era of the Flood Water with Noah

    3.The third day there was Land, Seas, and Seed (2000-3000) Era of Abraham who inherited the Promised Land, Moses who lead the people out of the RedSea, and the Seed of Abraham(offspring) that let Isreal populate.

    4.The fourth day there was Light, Sun, Moon, and Stars (3000-4000) Era of Jesus, signs days and stars helped indicate his coming.

    5. The fifth day there was Life (4000-5000) Era When Eternal Life was open for all

    6. the sixth day there was Beasts, and there was Man (5000-6000) The Era of the Beast and Anti-Christ

    7. the seventh day God rested (6xxx?-7000), God will set up his millennial kingdom in the last era, this is where there is rest

    Its year 6018 if we don't divide the time with BC/AD. How soon will God set up his Kingdom?
     
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  2. DennisTate

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    Last century in what sense?

    Don't you believe in children and aged playing in Jerusalem's streets soon?

    Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

    Malachi 4
     
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  3. ilovejcsog

    ilovejcsog I am a Christian mutt.

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    That would be my thoughts but then I am usually wrong from being uneducated in the word.
    My thoughts are based on "1948 and this generation shall not pass away....."
     
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  4. JackRT

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    I do not place any credence in any end times speculations. To date ---- 100% wrong. Every. Single. Time.
     
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  5. JazzHands

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    I confess, I'm something of a heathen in my interpretation of 'days'. I often wonder if some words are 'best guesses' in translating syllabic languages into a more convoluted vowel embellished language like Greek or Latin.

    I wondered if 'days' could be translated as 'Deis' (i.e. the raised platform or 'stage' on which a throne is set) akin to step or stair. So rather than seven earthly 'days', perhaps seven discrete stages?

    Anyway... just a thought! Interesting thread though, thanks for the stimulation!

    Also, to add, I'm conscious that the 'old people' saw resonances in nature which probably helped in defining the significance of geometric and numerical significance as a philosophical basis of esoteric belief.

    My mind always wander to the six-sided honey comb cell and how it can be reduced into six equilateral triangles. I used to play a game called 'Civilization' and it was in the third iteration I think when they decided to change the map units into hexagons. The larger the combined haxagon's became, the more circular the regions became.

    Is it possible that seven is significant because it signifies NEW life? i.e. six is stable, seven is its offspring?
     
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  6. Calminian

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    Day one was matter and light. All matter was in the form of water. The waters are mentioned before light. The waters are said to be formless and void, meaning they had no shape nor content yet (formless and empty). Just sort of a blob of primordial matter ready to be shaped by God.

    Day two was actually the expansion of space, the expanse or firmament that separated the waters above (still up there) from the waters below, which eventually were formed into the land and sea on day 3. We know the expanse included deep space because later God is said to have set the luminaries (stars) in the expanse on day 4.

    Also, the context of Peter's statement is not meant to translate all days in scripture to a thousand years. It's meant to convey that God is patient in a thousand years, like man is patient in a day.
     
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  7. JazzHands

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    Speaking of firmaments, I've noticed that there is ALWAYS an ideological barrier between sentient peers, even if only subtle. Sometimes I wonder if life requires duality as an engine? If so, the firmament would be a mechanism to achieve that end. Consider that there would be no tides without a moon and no blossoming without a sun. No stimulating discourse without opposing views...

    The waters and the waters...
     
  8. Calminian

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    This will make faith in Scripture very difficult for you. But I would suggest that words have meaning, and Scripture can be read, just as the post is being read.
     
  9. JazzHands

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    It does.. constantly! I'm working my own way through the minefield and I frequently fall. I'm not a guide, at best I'm a scout!
     
  10. Calminian

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    My suggestion is, read Scripture literally, in the sense that you would read posts here literally. This does not mean you don't recognize obvious metaphors and figurative language. We use these all the time, but they're usually easy to recognize from the context of the conversation. But seek first the literal meaning and don't assume a figurative meaning unless there are clues from the Text indicating it.

    There are two reasons for this. One) you can only decide to trust the Bible if you know what it is saying and you can only know what it is saying if it's written in a normal literal communicative sense that the common man would understand. Two) If God your creator did write Scripture to convey knowledge to you, it would only make sense for him communicate with you in the literal way you were created to understand things (again, not excluding normal figurative speech which is part of everyday literal communication).
     
  11. JazzHands

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    Calminian, I appreciate the advice and I respect your pragmatism but I see little evidence of it in the world.. you're an exception.

    I don't trust dogmatists and I don't trust institutions.. I trust the space between poetical lines and I see the bible as a key to understanding the nature of the human condition but ONLY if one is willing to shed servitude and think independently... perhaps the ultimate lesson! But more than that, I've been coerced by wolves in sheeps clothing too often to take anything for granted and history tells us that collective thought is not immune to corruption. I follow my own path and I stay true to the principles I think Jesus imbued me with.. honesty, decency and impartiality.. I will never join a club and I will never subscribe to any orthodoxy!
     
  12. Calminian

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    Well Jesus is a great place to start. He's the way the truth and the life. He's truth incarnate and I highly suggest you trust his words over any of mine. He spoke objective propositional truth. You should, therefore, test what I say by what he says.

    But again, if you don't read the words of Jesus literally, can you really know what he is saying? Jesus used metaphors and figurative language, to be sure, but he clearly indicated this for his listeners. He often interpreted parables for his disciples and gave their literal meaning to show us how to read his parables. Other times he did not, but the disciples began to understand when he was speaking in parables and how to interpret them.

    I don't think God ever intended to send you on a wild goose chase to discern what he wants for you and from you. But he does want you to trust him and maybe that's the rub. Would you be willing to trust God even over your own understanding? Would you be willing to trust what Scripture says, even if it seems counterintuitive? You say you don't trust the dogmatists nor the institutions, but do you trust the literal words of Jesus? Jesus himself told you not to trust man and traditions. Jesus himself warned of deceiving wolves. He said these things in a literal sense. But he described himself as the good shepherd, who puts a light yoke on his followers, those who trust his words. If you have a favorable view of Him, it would seem a good gamble to take him literally.
     
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  13. JazzHands

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    Sweet music to my eyes Calminian but in reference to literality, were I to interpret the scriptures literally, I'd assume that people who cast stones at people (especially those who threw them first), MUST be without sin! not exactly the philosophy I subscribe to! So I interpret, as I hope all good god-loving people do...
     
  14. Calminian

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    I would only suggest you discern between literal in the hermeneutical sense, and literal in the wooden sense. I believe your interpretation of the above is the former, and within the bounds of literalism (if I'm interpreting you correctly :oldthumbsup:).
     
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    According to the Jews, it's not 6018 since creation because they don't count years from Christ.
    In Israel it's 5779, still 221 years till the end of the sixth millennium.
    If you do all the math in the bible (the begets, etc.) it's likely they are close if not correct. I dearly hope I'm wrong, but it seems likely there will be another century before He comes back.
    But God only knows, so we will watch, as He told us to.
     
  16. JIMINZ

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    So you failed math in school too? :sorry:

    Just wanted to add, no pun intended, you can't forget the Jews.

    The Jewish calendar year of 5779 (2018–2019)

    There are 221 years left to the year 6,000 and counting to the end of the year 6,000 it is a total of 222 years which when added together is 6, WoW ain't that cool.

    As Porky says, ....... That's all folks!
     
  17. keras

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    Actually it is year 5988 since Adam.
    I have proved this before here, but if required, I will post it again.
     
  18. keras

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    Excepting for the final time - yet to happen.
    Anyway, what is it that people try to date? The Return of Jesus? We will know that Day 1260 days before it happens, as that counts down from the AC desecrating the Temple.
    But the Day that is prophesied to come like a thief, is the Day of the Lord's wrath.
    We know that Day is close from the many signs preceding it. The labor pangs.
     
  19. JIMINZ

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    Please do.
     
  20. keras

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    7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:

    Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE subtracted back from 586 BCE, from:
    Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10 Our year 2314.5 BCE

    Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4
    Total years so far = 2000

    Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8
    Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE.

    [Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.]

    1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:33 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:36 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18-20 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year of 586 BCE.

    Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5

    586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1 Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement.

    3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years from Adam to Jesus.


    July 2018.5 CE - 29.5 CE = 1989 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry.

    1989 + 4000 = 5989 years, is where we are now. 5989 + 11 = 6000 years

    2018.5 CE + 11 = 2029.5 CE Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age.

    4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus.

    7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind.

    Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5

    Addendum: Because Jesus worked in His mission on earth for 3½ years, the two ‘days’ prophesied in Hosea 6:2 and confirmed by Jesus in Luke 13:32, that He will spend in heaven from Ascension to Return, should have the 3½ years added to it, making a total of 2003.5 years since 29.5 CE = 2033 for the commencement of the Millennium.
    Ref: logostelos.info
     
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