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This Pandemic and Media

Discussion in 'The Kitchen Sink' started by Gracia Singh, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. Gracia Singh

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    From another thread. But I wanted to post my thoughts on this.

    What worries me is that what we are watching is an experiment in “group think”, which coincides with this virus.

    Yes, this is real. Yes, it is potentially lethal. Experts also can not tell us exactly how it spreads, and thanks to the Chinese government refusing to share vital data, we still don’t know as much as we could.

    We are, however, beginning to see a society in which neighbors turn neighbors in over four consenting adults who all know and trust one another and who feel fine getting together in one house to have a meal, and roast marshmallows.

    This reminds me a lot of what takes place in totalitarian regimes. Turn in your neighbors over “anti-social” / “anti-revolutionary” behaviors. See a bunch of people gather in a house? They might be Christians! They might be Baha’is! Report them!

    No, it’s not the same, but it reminds me of this. Wear a mask, wash your hands, if you don’t feel comfortable going out, don’t go out. If you know someone who is worried about this virus due to their age and health and who want you to stay away, do so. Be courteous, be cautious, be hygienic, and spread out.

    Please, give yourself permission to unplug from the media. A little. It may help save your free thought, and someday, your life. Please. This is exactly how cruel regimes control and influence people abroad. The media. Buzz words. Controlling behavior. Convincing people that this control keeps them and their country safe. Convincing people to spy on and report their neighbors. In the interest of the greater good. Giving only one narrative and squeezing out other possible narratives. Media. Media. Media.

    It’s not the exact same thing. At all. We’re a long, long way off from being like China. But there are similarities. I am afraid this pandemic is being exploited. Be careful. Don’t lose your ability to think critically. Thank you.
     
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  2. Gracia Singh

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    Ah, then there is the “Let’s all ___ for the greater good and the furtherance of the Glorious Revolution campaign!” phenomenon.

    We see a lot of that. Be careful. As I step back more and more from our media, I can see Socialist and Communistic media tactics being used to control people, and enrage us against certain behaviors.

    Don’t get me wrong. This virus is real, face masks are a good idea, and washing your hands is important. But have we ever seen anything like this? Why not? I actually contracted Swine Flu about a decade ago. It nearly killed me, and I was a healthy 25 year old. It was sweeping through the country, and killing the young.

    Ebola hit us. Ebola is horrific. And nurses in Africa wearing ppe and using soap and water and taking extra precautions were still contracting and dying from it. Remember that.

    The virus is real. It’s also being used, in a very weird, real way. This is my concern.
     
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  3. Tom 1

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    Americans get enraged about things because they are Americans. Wearing a mask when around other people and washing your hands after you’ve been anywhere are precautions to avoid contracting a widespread virus, same principle as parents teaching their kids to wash their hands before eating, not eating raw meat and getting vaccinated against common illnesses. Basic precautions to stop you getting sick. In countries where the pandemic has been managed effectively, e.g NZ, there is no need to take those precautions as the virus is not widespread. Given the chaotic response of the US govt however you are unfortunately in a downward spiral over there, and the very things that could reverse that are labelled as ‘communist’ and all kinds of other nonsense. What is it that you think they media’ is telling people to do, exactly?
     
  4. Gracia Singh

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    Obey, trust, comply.

    Mind you, a lot of what is being suggested is sensible. But the way that the media is drumming key words and phrases into our heads, causing people to fear and ridicule previously accepted behaviors, and not look beyond what they are told. This is exactly the way oppressive regimes operate and use the media.

    The virus is real. But the way it’s being covered is bizarre. Turn off your TV for a week. Tune out internet news and articles. Close the newspaper. Get off Reddit. You’ll see. Get your mind clear for a week. Try it. I would encourage you to try it.

    Tune into the weather. Be happy. Be safe, but be happy.
     
  5. Aspzan

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    I don't know how relevant this is.

    I walked passed a bus stop around 6:00am a few days ago and someone said "He's not wearing a mask" and turned away to shield his face. I only realised what he'd said after I had passed the bus stop. I was walking for exercise and left the house about 5:20am so I didn't have a mask. I don't really know what to make of it. I'm 99% sure he was being serious.
     
  6. Tom 1

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    What isn’t sensible? Things aren’t so bad here as in the US but the virus is still a live threat, people are getting infected. If I go into a shop, I put a mask on. It offers some limited protection should anyone near me happen to cough or something of that sort. It has zero impact on my life, it makes no difference to anything. What possible reason could there be for not doing something so basic? Until there is a vaccine, I can but choose not to visit my mother as there is the possibility I might pick up the virus somewhere on the way - this is because there is a virus for which there is currently no vaccine and no completely effective treatments. All of this, the whole thing, is basic, simple, straightforward. And yet - insanity. Over the need to take simple, basic precautions.
     
  7. now faith

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    I really do not understand the normalization of wearing masks.
    I see comments like whats the big deal no shoes no service ?
    It is far more than being sanitary that drive the masses to obey.
    We have had a conflict with the information from the doctor Fauchie.
    Many studies gave been done by people who are experts in this area.
    The conclusion is the masks are useless,and may cause other health problems.
    Unless you believe CNN,and other media outlets are the authority of your health,you should do your own research.
    I find retailers are overstepping their authority,and treating us like cattle.
    I have found the search engine algorithms are flawed on the case numbers.
    As far as documented communist, the history of Antifa was first noticed in Italy, during the World War Two time frame.

    In other words nothing makes sense.
    When something is openly violent or racist, the media down plays it.
    Accountability is only used for political motives.
    Even the methods of helping are illogical.
    A retailer cuts back their hours,makes people enter and exit through one door when they have three?
    So cutting the hours means larger crowds,and funneling all through one door puts more people in the same place than normal operation.
    Who makes the rules ?
    The retailers!
    They are able to cut staff hours and maintain the same sales.
    I believe. by September something is going to be brought out that will change our course forever.
    I believe there is a proven cure for the virus,and it now is a political virus.
    I believe God is still on the throne,and this season will pass with justice being served.
     
  8. now faith

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    type in any three digit number then Corona virus.
    scroll and see that any number will be linked to death or positive cases.
    people have done this all over for two weeks now.
    of course the search sites make catch on and change it,give it a try if you believe all you read is real.
    any 1 2 or 3 digit i have only used three digits because i know the odds would be astronomical if it was true.
     
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    One other thing I have noticed :
    Christians who otherwise would understand the perverse ways of other leaders suddenly hate Trump.
    I'm not bandstanding for him,I am speaking against abortion,and weird old men who do inappropriate things on camera to children.
    sorry if you hate Trump,but he did not cause the riots.
    sorry if you hate him for his stance on the lives of Children.
    what is your choice?
    We all will answer one day.
    choose life.
     
  10. Tom 1

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    What do you think this have to do with anything? The numbers of deaths from Covid 19 are of course not known exactly. How do you think they could be? If you have some magical formula for that, perhaps you could pass it on?

    It’s a contagious virus

    People, when exposed to it, become infected.

    Most people experience few symptoms or recover.

    Some people die.

    Some people develop chronic health conditions as a result of having contracted the virus.

    Peaks in infection rates, due to people not taking basic precautions, lead to healthcare services becoming overwhelmed, which leads to more people dying.

    Simple, basic realities.
     
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  11. exitstageright

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    I live in Alameda County in California. And,in Alameda County,one is required to wear a mask even if one is walking by oneself while outside.
     
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  12. Broken Fence

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    There will be a strong delusion to take the Mark of the beast. I hope not, but a microchip will go along way to say who can buy and sale. Who has been vaccinated who has not. Just saying. Strong delusion, bibles words not mine.
     
  13. Aspzan

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    Seems pointless
     
  14. Gracia Singh

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    That’s interesting. Again, teaching people to hate, fear, or ridicule previously normal or inoffensive behaviors.

    Ganging up on people on social media for having friends over for drinks and burgers during a pandemic. All the adults feel healthy and are fine with any risks involved. They are not living with anyone who is especially vulnerable. Still, shame them on social media for previously inoffensive behaviors which we are being trained to hate or attack.

    Just noticing.
     
  15. Tom 1

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    You realise that the connection you are making between ‘strong delusion’ and vaccines, microchips etc is not in the bible though, right? What specific reasons do you have to think that this passage (presumably the one you are referring to?) has anything to do with the things you mention:


    “For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”
    ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:11-12‬ ‭NIV‬‬
    2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. | New International Version (NIV) | Download The Bible App Now

    In what way is getting a vaccine, or using money, or a credit card, or a phone , or a chip under your skin, or a passport, or anything else of that sort ‘delighting in wickedness’? How exactly are you arriving at that conclusion? Step by step, what leads you to think that the writer of that text was thinking about anything like what you are saying here? I would really appreciate it if you could explain that. These kind of allusions are quite common it seems but no-one ever offers anything but vague notions to explain why people take them seriously. If you can clarify that it would be very useful, thanks.
     
  16. Gracia Singh

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    That is the weirdest thing.
     
  17. Broken Fence

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    The Amish believe microchip is mark of the beast. They have been putting these chips in animals for years. Not rocket science, how else can they choose who buys or sales globally.
     
  18. Gracia Singh

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    I don’t disagree with you. And I do feel like we are being prepped for something.

    China is already using “health passes” to control people’s movement and access to public spaces, stores, and education. Is this actually what we want?

    Is this not a precursor? It could be.
     
  19. Broken Fence

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    not sure, I don't wanna be deceived.
     
  20. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Not like it is just “the media”

     
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