This Means WAR: The ObamaCare Betrayal By Senators Capito And Murkowski Can Never Be Forgotten

[FreeinChrist]

Doing the right thing for your constituents means you had to be paid by the Democratic party to do it?

wow

 

[Uncle Siggy]

AARP Tars Health Insurance ‘Age Tax’ While Profiting Big From One

http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/12/aarp-tars-health-insurance-age-tax-profiting-big-one/

 

[NightHawkeye]

Kinda makes you wonder how many of them are being paid to vote they way they are by members of the Democrat party???

No doubt, their masters in the DC swamp are the same masters the Democrats answer to.

 

[Hank77]

AARP Tars Health Insurance ‘Age Tax’ While Profiting Big From One

http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/12/aarp-tars-health-insurance-age-tax-profiting-big-one/

Sounds like capitalism in action. Insurance companies under the ACA are allowed to keep 15% of premiums for administrative purposes. It doesn't state that they cannot use any of that money to pay royalties to others for selling their policies. AARP is not an insurance company, they encourage members to apply for coverage through insurance companies that they advertise, when they do AARP receives payments from the companies. In effect they are merely an insurance agency much like your local agent for car insurance, etc.

 

[FreeinChrist]

And AARP is not really related to the concerns about repealing Obamacare. AARP does not do medicaid or is involved in the expansion of it in states. AARP is not responsible for whether kids can stay on their parent's insurance longer not protecting those with pre-existing conditions and much more.

The Republican bills are coming off as downright mean and as favoring the wealthy and not those in need - and the American public sees it. That is why the last bill had a 17% favorbility.

 

[Hank77]

And AARP is not really related to the concerns about repealing Obamacare. AARP does not do medicaid or is involved in the expansion of it in states. AARP is not responsible for whether kids can stay on their parent's insurance longer not protecting those with pre-existing conditions and much more.

The Republican bills are coming off as downright mean and as favoring the wealthy and not those in need - and the American public sees it. That is why the last bill had a 17% favorbility.

I think some of it is self-interest. The first bill would have quickly taken away premium subsidies provide in the ACA without bringing down the cost of premiums or costs of health care. It is not just low income people who are benefited by these subsidies. Many middle income people get them as well. Some of the middle income people no longer have employer/employee coverage so without the subsidies they wouldn't be able to afford the premiums. At least with help to pay premiums they can whether the large deductibles, without them they can't.
Once people got wind of that they realized that they aren't willing to trust this group of Rep. with even the rewritten bill.

 

[NightHawkeye]

And AARP is not really related to the concerns about repealing Obamacare.

AARP has backed numerous redistributionist policies ... including Obamacare. It's what they do.

 

[FreeinChrist]

They back it, yep. So do a number of Republican governors back the medicaid expansion of Obamacare.

Only 17% back the Trumpcare bills.
Most want congress to come together and work on fixing the ACA or develop something new involving all parties.....and some want the single payer option.

 

[Albion]

And AARP is not really related to the concerns about repealing Obamacare. AARP does not do medicaid or is involved in the expansion of it in states. AARP is not responsible for whether kids can stay on their parent's insurance longer not protecting those with pre-existing conditions and much more.

Not entirely correct. AARP sells insurance and got a windfall out of Obamacare's passage.

 

[Rion]

Doing the right thing for your constituents means you had to be paid by the Democratic party to do it?

wow

A lot of the evil politicians unleash on their citizens is done in the name of the 'greater good.'

 

[FreeinChrist]

Yanking away healthcare without any surety that it be replaced is mean and evil imho.
Removing healthcare from 22 - 32 million is pretty mean, too.

 

[NightHawkeye]

A lot of the evil politicians unleash on their citizens is done in the name of the 'greater good.'

... and who can argue against the 'greater good'?

 

[super animator]

A lot of the evil politicians unleash on their citizens is done in the name of the 'greater good.'

That doesn't mean that the government should stop making laws in the best interest of it's citizens in a democratic society.

 

[Rion]

... and who can argue against the 'greater good'?

 

[Rion]

That doesn't mean that the government should stop making laws in the best interest of it's citizens in a democratic society.

The government should listen to its citizens, or it has no right to exist.

 

[Hank77]

Not entirely correct. AARP sells insurance and got a windfall out of Obamacare's passage.

Please explain how AARP got a windfall from the ACA.

The AARP partnership, which began in 1997, has been a marketing coup for UnitedHealth, allowing the insurer to sell Medicare Advantage health benefits and Medicare Part D drug benefits under the AARP brand. UnitedHealth Group UNH +0.08% is the nation’s largest health insurance company and AARP is the largest lobby and association for seniors 50 and older.

The partnership has been the envy of the health insurance industry for years. Competitors like Aetna AET +0.31%, Humana HUM +0.11% and Cigna CI -0.14% also sell health plans that contract with Medicare to provide health benefits to seniors.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2017/07
/17/unitedhealth-aarp-extend-medicare-partnership-beyond-2025/#569c7a9d71b5


Does AARP tack on a 4.95% charge or does United Health allow them to keep that amount for advocating for their policies?

 

[Nithavela]

I think that governments should make decisions based on the Greater Evil, instead.

 

[super animator]

The government should listen to its citizens, or it has no right to exist.

Rion, you and I both know it's more complicated than that. I do not believe the customer is always right, or in this case the citizens is always right, because sometimes what they are saying isn't always to their best interest or even worst against their interest.

 

[Rion]

Rion, you and I both know it's more complicated than that. I do not believe the customer is always right, or in this case the citizens is always right, because sometimes what they are saying isn't always to their best interest or even worst against their interest.

Which is what checks and balances are for.

 

[super animator]

Which is what checks and balances are for.

Then why you and NH are in up in arms when people say "greater good" here, when in theory the checks and balances prevents that.