This Means WAR: The ObamaCare Betrayal By Senators Capito And Murkowski Can Never Be Forgotten

[NightHawkeye]

This Means WAR: The ObamaCare Betrayal By Senators Capito And Murkowski Can Never Be Forgotten

They voted in favor of the (partial) repeal in 2015 — and yet they claim they cannot vote for the same bill today, in 2017.
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So what is the difference between 2015 and 2017? ... The difference is that today, in 2017, we have a president who would sign that repeal bill into law. In 2015, we did not.

Senators Capito and Murkowski knew this. They lied to their voters, straight up.
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I think the GOP establishment is hoping that you will forget about their treachery in the intervening four to six years.

I, for one, am not going to forget. I will never forget.

I hereby pledge to donate money to the strongest conservative challenger willing to primary either of these senators on the basis of their refusal to vote to repeal Obamacare. I don’t care if I have to wait until 2020 or 2022, I am doing it. And I will vocally support that person against these Senators, and do everything I can to see that these women are unseated.​

 

[Desk trauma]

Bring on the infighting.

 

[sfs]

I am shocked -- shocked -- to find that senators sometimes vote for symbolic or PR purposes.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Bring on the infighting.

The arrogance of Republican leaders and their willingness to work against their base has been noteworthy in recent years.

Eric Cantor - House Whip, 2nd ranking Republican was unseated in 2014 Republican primary to TEA party challenger Dave Brat.

John Boehner - Speaker of the House, removed from his position in 2015 after defying Republican voters throughout Obama's time in office.

Jeb Bush - Annointed by Republican party to take the throne in 2015, humiliated by voters in 2016.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

This all brings me great joy.

 

[LoAmmi]

We're watching a group of people who are losing because they won.

 

[dgiharris]

When push comes to absolute shove... It is a little comforting to know that there are some Senators that aren't blind and can see the harm the bill would have caused.

They put country ahead of party and deserve praise and respect.

"We have to make an example out of somebody, so we might as well start with them — pour encourager les autres.

So here’s what we do. We primary them. We never, ever forget this betrayal. This goes for anybody else who votes against having this legislation going forward. All of them get the same treatment. No more donations for any of the turncoats. If they appear on the radio, we call in and rip them to shreds for this vote. We confront them wherever and whenever we can. We pull out all the stops."

Notice the hate in the above quote. Why is everything so binary in the GOP. If you don't toe the line you are a traitor and deserve political execution?

There are legitimate reasons for voting against the bill. Very real and very legitimate reasons. I will go so far as to say that there are legitimate reasons for supporting the bill. Even though I'm firmly against the bill, I can see the logic behind wanting to repeal Obama care...

My point is this is a complex issue, but the author is treating this issue as if it is a simple slam dunk obvious right or wrong issue and it is not.

We should respect all legitimate choices. And opposing this bill is legitimate. In fact, it should say something to the GOP party that their own party thinks this bill is crap.

I'm amazed that the hatred of all things Obama is so strong that GOP types would rather burn the country to the ground over healthcare rather than acknowledge that his solution is better than theirs and work to make Obamacare better rather than introduce their horrid legislation which would kill people by the hundreds of thousands via omission.

 

[NightHawkeye]

When push comes to absolute shove... It is a little comforting to know that there are some Senators that aren't blind and can see the harm the bill would have caused.

They put country ahead of party and deserve praise and respect.

Perhaps after being fired by Republican voters they can become the new leaders of the Democrat party.

 

[Albion]

They put country ahead of party and deserve praise and respect.

At best, they put state ahead of country. I'm not sure how much praise or respect that should command.

 

[super animator]

No need to make this personal NH.

 

[dgiharris]

Perhaps after being fired by Republican voters they can become the new leaders of the Democrat party.

Why not? It worked for Trump. GOP is led by someone who is not even close to a Republican and GOP is going through bouts of mental gymnastics and hypocrisy to color the insanity coming out of the White House as "normal"

At best, they put state ahead of country. I'm not sure how much praise or respect that should command.

Fair point. They put State over party. Still commendable. Elected officials should represent their constituents. And sometimes, that means being a parent and denying your children things they "think" they want but in reality will be harmful...

 

[Albion]

Fair point. They put State over party. Still commendable. Elected officials should represent their constituents.

Generally speaking, in this country we've held that Senators are not supposed to be simply middle men for conveying the opinions of the homefolks to Washington but, rather, that they are to legislate with the interests of the country in the forefront.

 

[Nithavela]

LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!

 

[cow451]

This Means WAR: The ObamaCare Betrayal By Senators Capito And Murkowski Can Never Be Forgotten

They voted in favor of the (partial) repeal in 2015 — and yet they claim they cannot vote for the same bill today, in 2017.
...
So what is the difference between 2015 and 2017? ... The difference is that today, in 2017, we have a president who would sign that repeal bill into law. In 2015, we did not.

Senators Capito and Murkowski knew this. They lied to their voters, straight up.
...
I think the GOP establishment is hoping that you will forget about their treachery in the intervening four to six years.

I, for one, am not going to forget. I will never forget.

I hereby pledge to donate money to the strongest conservative challenger willing to primary either of these senators on the basis of their refusal to vote to repeal Obamacare. I don’t care if I have to wait until 2020 or 2022, I am doing it. And I will vocally support that person against these Senators, and do everything I can to see that these women are unseated.​

Whatever.

 

[Nithavela]

We're watching a group of people who are losing because they won.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Why not? It worked for Trump. GOP is led by someone who is not even close to a Republican and GOP is going through bouts of mental gymnastics and hypocrisy ...

ROTFL ... That'll happen when a party defies the will of its voters.

... and still they wonder why the guy in the White House isn't going along with what the entrenched bureaucracy just "knows" is the right thing to do.

 

[Belk]

The militants are up in arms.

 

[Belk]

ROTFL ... That'll happen when a party defies the will of its voters.

... and still they wonder why the guy in the White House isn't going along with what the entrenched bureaucracy just "knows" is the right thing to do.

The will of the voters or the will of the party?

 

[NightHawkeye]

The will of the voters or the will of the party?

Noting that all Republican senators and congressmen, with the exception of Susan Collins, have campaigned under the banner of repealing Obamacare.

 

[Nithavela]

Noting that all Republican senators and congressmen, with the exception of Susan Collins, have campaigned under the banner of repealing Obamacare.

I think their voters voted for something like this: