This election is about jobs.

[Jeffwhosoever]

Let's discuss the jobs record of Obama vs. the plans of Governor Romney.

Here is some data to get us started.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

An article, too!

The Death of Keynesian Economics: Comparing Reagan to Obama | Conservative News, Views & Books

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Our population growth rate is about 1%, if it's been that way for around eighteen years, then that means there's two or three million people a year entering the work force, which means that at a minimum, the Lightworker should have presided over 8-12 million new jobs.

 

[Yekcidmij]

So Romney is going to create jobs? I thought he said government doesn't create jobs.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Let's discuss the jobs record of Obama vs. the plans of Governor Romney.

Here is some data to get us started.

Why does this graph point out which party was president? I doubt there is a connection between the party in the white house and the labor force participation rate.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Why does this graph point out which party was president? I doubt there is a connection between the party in the white house and the labor force participation rate.

The graph demonstrates a correlation between the President and the economy, like it or not.

Reagan/Bush Sr = supply side economics

Bush Jr = supply side economics - regulation

Obama = "Post" Keynesian economics

Not sure what economic model Clinton used - maybe he inherited a great economy

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

The graph demonstrates a correlation between the President and the economy, like it or not.

Reagan/Bush Sr = supply side economics

Bush Jr = supply side economics - regulation

Obama = "Post" Keynesian economics

Not sure what economic model Clinton used - maybe he inherited a great economy

I don't think Clinton did much. That's probably a good approach.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

I'm not seeing much good Obama has done from the chart.

 

[rturner76]

I'm not seeing much good Obama has done from the chart.

This chart seems to differ from the one on your tagline labeled "Bush's tax cuts didn't cause the recession" so I don't even know what we're talking about here. I have no idea what charts or figures are even accurate for one, and for two, we have no way to know what Romney's plan will look like. It is all depending on taxes staying the same by closing loopholes and lowering rates. Then 12 million jobs will appear. Where and how will they appear? This chart looks a bit different so what's the truth?

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

This chart seems to differ from the one on your tagline labeled "Bush's tax cuts didn't cause the recession" so I don't even know what we're talking about here. I have no idea what charts or figures are even accurate for one, and for two, we have no way to know what Romney's plan will look like. It is all depending on taxes staying the same by closing loopholes and lowering rates. Then 12 million jobs will appear. Where and how will they appear? This chart looks a bit different so what's the truth?

Your chart represents the monthly employment report, which doesn't take into account those that give up looking for a job and drop out of the labor force, and hence the decline under Obama in the labor participation rate in my chart.

Also, your chart appears to end in 2011, but I'll admit my eyes aren't what they once were.

see this: Mark Gongloff: Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest In Three Decades, Though Despair Doesn't Explain It All

 

[rturner76]

I don't think Clinton did much. That's probably a good approach.

The Republican Congress passed the Clinton budget both terms. The very budget that Clinton ran on when he told the American people he would balance the budget. It's the reason I voted for him and he did it with bipartisan support

Had Al Gore been elected we would have stayed on the same financial path but NO! We got Bushwhacked!

 

[Uphill Battle]

Why does this graph point out which party was president? I doubt there is a connection between the party in the white house and the labor force participation rate.

Massive global recession!

It was Obama's fault! lookit my graph!

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Massive global recession!

It was Obama's fault! lookit my graph!

Do you have a point?

 

[Uphill Battle]

Do you have a point?

yes. it's lies.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

yes. it's lies.

Lies! Lies!

 

[Uphill Battle]

Lies! Lies!

You better hope that's true, or your guy doesn't have a prayer of winning.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

You better hope that's true, or your guy doesn't have a prayer of winning.

Americans are smart and will recognize the truth, and will vote Romney & Ryan.

 

[rturner76]

Your chart represents the monthly employment report, which doesn't take into account those that give up looking for a job and drop out of the labor force, and hence the decline under Obama in the labor participation rate in my chart.

Also, your chart appears to end in 2011, but I'll admit my eyes aren't what they once were.

see this: Mark Gongloff: Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest In Three Decades, Though Despair Doesn't Explain It All

I went to the link and it said out of the 2.2 people who have dropped out of the labor force and given up or are not planning on returning, 1.7 million are 65 and older and 275,000 are teenagers. That does still leave 325,000 people who have given up on finding work and that is a terrible situation to be in. THey said they don't have figures on how many are going back to school or getting some training in another field. Still 4.3 million out of the labor force who are still looking (considered no longer "unemployed")

I still say things could have been much worse and given the situation with the economy, I think Obama should have let those tax cuts expire and done some more progressive things when he had the chance but he has to play by the Republicans rules so this is all we got right now. Hopefully after the election we get a couple Democratic seats and he can do something.

What Romney is talking about is smoke and mirrors to me. Pulling jobs out of a hat.

 

[Uphill Battle]

Americans are smart and will recognize the truth, and will vote Romney & Ryan.

wow. I don't want to begin parsing that one... or I'll get reported.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

I went to the link and it said out of the 2.2 people who have dropped out of the labor force and given up or are not planning on returning, 1.7 million are 65 and older and 275,000 are teenagers. That does still leave 325,000 people who have given up on finding work and that is a terrible situation to be in. THey said they don't have figures on how many are going back to school or getting some training in another field. Still 4.3 million out of the labor force who are still looking (considered no longer "unemployed")

I still say things could have been much worse and given the situation with the economy, I think Obama should have let those tax cuts expire and done some more progressive things when he had the chance but he has to play by the Republicans rules so this is all we got right now. Hopefully after the election we get a couple Democratic seats and he can do something.

What Romney is talking about is smoke and mirrors to me. Pulling jobs out of a hat.

Nope. Romney has a plan. Obama has a record, and it ain't good.