The World

[dreadnought]

The Lord always wants what is best for us. His commandments are meant to keep us out of trouble and lead us to peace. Does the world also want what is best for us?

 

[salt-n-light]

The Lord always wants what is best for us. His commandments are meant to keep us out of trouble and lead us to peace. Does the world also want what is best for us?

No. The world wants us to reject the Creator.

 

[dreadnought]

No. The world wants us to reject the Creator.

So those people who reject the Lord's teachings in an effort to please the world are really doing themselves no favor, I would suggest. The world isn't going to take care of them.

 

[justaconfusedgirl]

Id say sometimes but not always. Its probably more common for the world not to because there are so many agendas which effect how we are treated by certain people, it can all be a bit selfish but there's often always something good mixed in there somewhere even if its not obvious at first or if the direction needs changing slightly

 

[dreadnought]

Id say sometimes but not always. Its probably more common for the world not to because there are so many agendas which effect how we are treated by certain people, it can all be a bit selfish but there's often always something good mixed in there somewhere even if its not obvious at first or if the direction needs changing slightly

I think you can say that the Lord is trying to teach us how to live rewarding lives, while the world is only concerned with making itself happy. The world has to put on a facade of good will, but the facade isn't very deep.

 

[Kevin Snow]

The detriment is what God thinks and does. It says that "friendship with the world is enmity with God." So forget what the world can or can't do for you, God is against you if you rely on it! And this is a far bigger problem than what the world can do for you.

 

[dreadnought]

The detriment is what God thinks and does. It says that "friendship with the world is enmity with God." So forget what the world can or can't do for you, God is against you if you rely on it! And this is a far bigger problem than what the world can do for you.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 RSV

 

[timewerx]

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 RSV

Jesus only loves the world but NOT including the disease that's corrupted our world.

This is why Jesus said, loving money is hatred of God.....because money is part of that disease (money is just one example). The original, pristine world did not need money because everything in there is free and you do not even need to work and compete for your basic needs, and even for comfort.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

the world wants what's best for itself.

 

[dreadnought]

Jesus only loves the world but NOT including the disease that's corrupted our world.

This is why Jesus said, loving money is hatred of God.....because money is part of that disease (money is just one example). The original, pristine world did not need money because everything in there is free and you do not even need to work and compete for your basic needs, and even for comfort.

On what do you base your belief we won't have to work for our basic needs in heaven?

 

[Shempster]

The world system (and that includes political/corporate/sports/academic/religious/scientific/media ect groups) needs you to NEED them. They create dogmas, practices and beliefs that they convince us that only they can provide to keep us satisfied. And of course, their goal is really to get your money. That and your time and full attention so that you do not figure out that you are being scammed and that you really don't need them or what they offer.

Of course, there IS a fine line for that kind of thinking. We do need them to a degree. I think the problem lies when we rely too completely on the system for these things we need.
My way of not being controlled by the system is to first just try to get things done without help. But when you need a college loan or a surgery or a job or whatever, you may need to be helped by them.

That's life

 

[timewerx]

On what do you base your belief we won't have to work for our basic needs in heaven?

It depends on what we believe constitutes work. Picking an apple you would eat off a tree that you either planted yourself or not, is not work.

But picking 10 apples, you only take 1 to eat, the rest you give to the owner of the tree or land, that's work

 

[ubicaritas]

The Lord always wants what is best for us. His commandments are meant to keep us out of trouble and lead us to peace. Does the world also want what is best for us?

Reification fallacy. The world is an abstract concept representing distinct phenomena, not a singular thing, so there is no singular will at work (unless you are talking about God).

 

[dreadnought]

It depends on what we believe constitutes work. Picking an apple you would eat off a tree that you either planted yourself or not, is not work.

But picking 10 apples, you only take 1 to eat, the rest you give to the owner of the tree or land, that's work

Do you think the Lord will require us to get jobs in the resurrection, or will he just provide us with the things we need?

 

[dreadnought]

Reification fallacy. The world is an abstract concept representing distinct phenomena, not a singular thing, so there is no singular will at work (unless you are talking about God).

The Lord does speak of the world, so it might be good to understand what he was referring to.

 

[timewerx]

Do you think the Lord will require us to get jobs in the resurrection, or will he just provide us with the things we need?

We would still work if that is what you mean.

But it wouldn't be a job because it will be something we love to do and it will be easy.

And the Lord don't have to ask us to do it because we would ask Him to give it to us!

 

[Wordkeeper]

The world system (and that includes political/corporate/sports/academic/religious/scientific/media ect groups) needs you to NEED them. They create dogmas, practices and beliefs that they convince us that only they can provide to keep us satisfied. And of course, their goal is really to get your money. That and your time and full attention so that you do not figure out that you are being scammed and that you really don't need them or what they offer.

Of course, there IS a fine line for that kind of thinking. We do need them to a degree. I think the problem lies when we rely too completely on the system for these things we need.
My way of not being controlled by the system is to first just try to get things done without help. But when you need a college loan or a surgery or a job or whatever, you may need to be helped by them.

That's life

The whole point of selling everything and giving the proceeds to the poor was to signify that needing the world was not necessary. God was your Creator and it was His job to provide for you.

The second point is that the world's provision never satisfied. You would always be thirsty again, hungry again. The effect would not last.

The third point was that you couldn't take it to you, an important point, since real life was the next life: this life was preparatory, and you needed to pick up stuff now that would be useful then.

 

[Wordkeeper]

The world system (and that includes political/corporate/sports/academic/religious/scientific/media ect groups) needs you to NEED them. They create dogmas, practices and beliefs that they convince us that only they can provide to keep us satisfied. And of course, their goal is really to get your money. That and your time and full attention so that you do not figure out that you are being scammed and that you really don't need them or what they offer.

Of course, there IS a fine line for that kind of thinking. We do need them to a degree. I think the problem lies when we rely too completely on the system for these things we need.
My way of not being controlled by the system is to first just try to get things done without help. But when you need a college loan or a surgery or a job or whatever, you may need to be helped by them.

That's life

The whole point of selling everything and giving the proceeds to the poor was to signify that needing the world was not necessary. God was your Creator and it was His job to provide for you.

The second point is that the world's provision never satisfied. You would always be thirsty again, hungry again. The effect would not last.

The third point was that you couldn't take it to you, an important point, since real life was the next life: this life was preparatory, and you needed to pick up stuff now that would be useful then.

 

[dreadnought]

We would still work if that is what you mean.

But it wouldn't be a job because it will be something we love to do and it will be easy.

And the Lord don't have to ask us to do it because we would ask Him to give it to us!

Can I be a singer?

 

[timewerx]

Can I be a singer?

If necessary, why not?

Everyone who will be saved, will have easy work there. Even those who never really worked here, will love to work in God's Kingdom.