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Featured The Woman in the Wilderness - Revelation 12

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by TribulationSigns, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. TribulationSigns

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    Revelation 12:6
    • "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days."
    The woman represents the congregation of Israel, started with Old Testament Israel and end with the New Testament Israel. The 1260 days the woman is fed in the wilderness is symbolically and is pointing us to the skia or shadow how the Old Testament nation of Israel had to survive in the wilderness nourished of God before they entered the promised land. So the New Testament Church has to follow that exact same path. After this woman (the congregation of Israel) was persecuted by Satan and brought forth Christ who was caught up to the throne to reign, she fled from the Judaizers into the wilderness (wasteland, Desert or desolate Place), which is a portrait of the barrenness of the Nations/Gentiles. This because they don't know God, and not part of the commonwealth of Israel, and are a people without spiritual bread and water. It is WHERE God had prepared a safe place for the congregation of Israel because it was His will that the wilderness or desert bring forth abundantly, just as Israel once did. God had made a place in this wilderness or desert that would be fruitful for the woman.

    John 6:31
    • "Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat."
    That word translated "desert" means a barren place without water or food. In other word, the world was once without Gospel. And God had to miraculously feed His children bread from heaven and Water from a rock, signifying Salvation. As I said, all God's miracles are signs signifying some Spiritual truth. This word translated "desert" is the exact same word translated "wilderness" in Revelation chapter 12. It signifies a barren place void of the bread and water of Christ, which the Gentiles/Nations were.

    Revelation 12:14

    • "And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent."
    Again, not a literal woman in literal heaven given literal wings, not Virgin Mary, and not Nation Israel, but signifying the people of God representing the congregation of Israel and the are protected by God (Exodus 19:4; Isaiah 40:31) in this Desert place in the wilderness, and is there nourished of God. God prepared a place for her away from the face of the Serpent Satan (Satan was ast down and bound), which indicates God assured it was there the congregation of Israel could not be hurt, and receive power of God (Holy Spirit) to bring the elect Gentiles/Nations out of the darkness wherein Satan held them in strong delusion.

    Revelation 20:3
    • "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."
    Satan was cast down and was bound, but not from literal heaven and not with literal chains, but with spiritual chains. Spiritually, Satan was restrained from deceiving the world so that Christ could spoil the people from the world through the Church. God is using this woman, the New Covenant Congregation of Israel, to reach the Nations/Gentiles in the wilderness (world) during this millennial period that they are not deceived, but instead made fellow heirs of the commonwealth of Israel.

    Ephesians 2:11-12
    • "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
    • That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:"
    For example, it was for THIS reason that Satan had to bound FIRST in order for this millennial period reign (1000 years) of Christ to be established and went forth into the world, so that the elect of these Nations/Gentiles in the wilderness would be set free of their deceiving. The words translated Nations and Gentiles are the exact same word! God was not talking about political nations here!

    The preparation of this place is synonymous with Christ giving power to the apostles that they couldn't be hurt by Serpents and Scorpions in the wilderness. In other words, during this period, Satan is bound from preventing the church from going forth as two witnesses evangelizing the nations that they are not deceived. Yet God warned that AFTER this millennial reign of the church in the wilderness, when all the Israel of God are sealed, Satan would be then loosed and the Nations will be deceived once again (Revelation 20:7-8) ushering in the great tribulation period for the woman for a short season prior to Second Coming.

    That is basically what Revelation 12 is all about.
     
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    Could be true that te Christians in Israel and the west bank would flee to Jordan.What dont understand is why people suchtehe writer refers to the king if the north as "the Antichrist".He is not called te Antichrist in Daniel or revelation .By the description given to us by John,an Antichrist is someone who denys Jesus as the Christ and claims the messiah has not come.
    That is a description of many people in Israel and a good description of the Knesset itself.
    The king of the north however does not say such.He does support the Israeli govetment though and helps that govetment.
    So why do people call the king,of the north "the Antichrist"?
     
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  5. seventysevens

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    I think there is only one place in scripture where a title is given as Antichrist as in a replacement to the Christ - also known as Man of Sin - also known as the false messiah but many references to antichrist is used to describe those who are against Christ
    I'd have to look it up to find where the label of Antichrist is applied to the man who will be the Man of Sin and Man of Lawlessness who sits in the temple throne and declares himself to be God - This person is the Great Delusion that Almighty God is sending because people rejected the true messiah so they will believe the lie of the false messiah - this is the result for those who reject Jesus as the true Messiah
    The false messiah will at the beginning profess that he supports the Jews but it is a lie -he will deceive Israel to get their following then he will turn on them and give the command for all Jews in Judea are to be killed and that is what scriptures speak s when they should flee to the mountains and not go into their homes to get their possessions - for if they do they will not have enough time to escape and be killed
     
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    The word Antichrist is mentioned four times in scripture all by John.John says there were many Antichrists even when he was writtkng his letters.He never says it is someone who replaces Christ or someone who hers themsrlf as God.
    John just says an Antichrist Denys Jesus and says the messiah has not come.Thats all.
    As for the king if the north.Although he believes he's above all being the mostt powerful man,in the world,he doesn't deny Christ in scripture as the phariseees did.
    Today, if there were anyone who denys christ and has taken the place of Christ it would be Benjamin netanyahu ,prime minister of Israel.Not the kING of the north
     
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    The false messiah will at the beginning profess that he supports the Jews but it is a lie -he will deceive Israel to get their following then he will turn on them and give the command for all Jews in Judea are to be killed and that is what scriptures speak s when they should flee to the mountains and not go into their homes to get their possessions - for if they do they will not have enough time to escape and be killed
    The way things are shaping up it looks to be the king of the north is the king of Turkey as they are beginning to revive the Ottoman empire that once ruled the land of Israel
    The is room for speculation at this point in time - we will likely see things further develop in near future that lets us known who this person will be
    Many scholars seem to believe that he will be an islamist pretending to be a Jew - and well our last President Obama did much the same as he presented himself as a Christian and did many many things to remove Christianity from our country , he tried very passionately to bring in islamic sahria law to the USA , NO true Christian would ever try such a thing
     
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    You have a big imagination.
     
  9. seventysevens

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    If you study and do research if you find proof that i am correct - but if you prefer to believe that the current PM of Israel is the antichrist go right ahead
     
  10. shilohsfoal

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    In the meantime.Netayshu is planning his cashless society.
     
  11. seventysevens

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    News flash the same is happening in many countries at this very moment - do you ever watch the news feeds of live recorded Summit meetings that have recently taken place in Spain and Switzerland where the head leaders of the world leaders meet to discuss what is going to be implemented world wide? No of course you don't ;)
    If you did you would have known this
     
  12. shilohsfoal

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    Oh no.Netanyahu,replacement of the king if Israel,is planning on a cashes society just for "his"kingdom.
    Reason why the woman flees out of Israel and the west bank into the wilderness.
    She could go about anywhere.Just not in Israel .
     
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    lol , you don't understand Israel - they feel they must do things independently since nearly all of her neighbors want o destroy her - America is about the only ally Israel has so they don't put much interest in any Summit or what other nations say or do
     
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    I know the US is the only ally Israel trusts.And Donald Trump is the most powerful man in the world and the only ally Israel would trust to place its own military inside of Israel.
    Israel,put much faith in the king of the north.
     
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    Who do you say the king of the north is ?
     
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    Daniel 11:31 "His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.


    Israel has at least 200 nuclear weapons. It has the strongest military in the middle east .The only country that could move its military into israel without a single shot fired would be its only ally that it trusts,the USA.
    As of now,Donald Trump is the most powerful man in,the world and if he decides to station a military to occupy Jerusalem then in Jerusalem it will be.
    No other country in the world could do that.
    Not,Turkey
    Not Rome.
     
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    I know what the scripture says but since you make reference that Netanyahu puts much faith in the king of the north - it seemed you were referring to a person that you consider the king of the north - North is a direction obviously not a country - what country do you think it is - what person by name is the king of the north
     
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