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The Will of God

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Risen Tree, Nov 14, 2006.

True or false: God's will is always done.

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  1. Risen Tree

    Risen Tree previously Rising Tree

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    True or false: God's will is always done.
     
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  2. Zeena

    Zeena ..called to BE a Saint

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    God's will is always done..
    His ways are higher than our ways, as our His thoughts! :)

    He actually works 'around' the will of man to accomplish His will!

    He's soo awsum!
     
  3. eladoni

    eladoni And the Brain.

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    God's will is always done.

    It is important however that we point out that will does not necessarily mean consent. God did not WANT adam and eve to sin. God does not wish the condemnation of any person. However he allowed adam and eve to sin because he willed to give them free will, and he allows people to be condemned because he lets them resist the work of the Holy Spirit in their hearts.

    It is important to make that distinction, because to say that the will of God is done, and leave it at that, implies that God does evil, which is not the case.
     
  4. Zeena

    Zeena ..called to BE a Saint

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    Amen my precious brother!
     
  5. Zeena

    Zeena ..called to BE a Saint

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    So..

    What makes you think the will of God is not accomplished Rising Tree?

    These thoughts do not come from the One who saves us..
     
  6. hlaltimus

    hlaltimus Senior Member

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    From eternity...Yes, from time...Yes and No.
     
  7. ChrisCountryGirl

    ChrisCountryGirl It's better to give than to recieve

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  8. Montanaman

    Montanaman Well-Known Member

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    How about "eventually?"

    ;-)
     
  9. NikolaTesla

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    It's not God's will that people sin, yet people do it anyway.
     
  10. RonnyRulz

    RonnyRulz Well-Known Member

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    The question is too vauge for any real answer.

    If by God's Will, you mean what He wants, then no, absolutely not. God's Will is constantly restricted by us humans. He doesn't force anything on us, so what He wants doesn't always happen. In fact, I bet it rarely happens in the majority of christianity. Luckily God has a select few rare Christians who constantly do His Will, so it is mostly done in their lives.

    If by God's Wills you actually mean God's Plans, then yes, God's Plans are usually always done because nothing can stop Him. I can't say that they are ALWAYS 100% done, but I am sure that there is a very high chance that all His Plans are done.

    BUT, God's Plan and Will is to see to it that all are saved. All enter Heaven. All accept Him, Christ, Trinity, Himself.

    So, short answer:

    God's Will? Absolutely Not
    God's Plans? Yes, if all people enter Heaven and no human spends an eternity in Hell. Otherwise No.
     
  11. Optimax

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    God's will is not always done as these two scriptures demonstrate.

    2 Pe 3:9
    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish , but that all should come to repentance.
    KJV

    God's will is that every one be saved, but since God gave man a "choser" or will every man does not make the decision to repent.

    Mt 6:10
    10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
    KJV


    If God's will was always done this prayer is useless. :)
     
  12. NikolaTesla

    NikolaTesla New Member

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    Yep, can't argue with the Bible!
     
  13. RonnyRulz

    RonnyRulz Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is saying "God's Will is always done."

    God's Will and Plan is for everyone to accept Jesus's blood, repent of their sins, and enter Heaven.

    Unless you believe no one is going to spend an eternity in Hell, how can you say that God's Will is always done?
     
  14. KJVisTruth

    KJVisTruth HisInstructionsAreOurs,Ou rObstructionsAreHis

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    Great. To say otherwise would be saying Hes not truly sovereign.
     
  15. KJVisTruth

    KJVisTruth HisInstructionsAreOurs,Ou rObstructionsAreHis

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    Your first verse, "us-ward"... that was directed to the believers, that THEY should come to repentence.

    Second verse, God has foreknowledge, so His will IS done.

    We pray to give him glory, to worship, for Hes truly Almighty.
     
  16. pgp_protector

    pgp_protector Noted strange person

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    Foreknowledge is not the same as will.

    I know my kid will have a messy room by the end of the weak. It's not my will that they do though.
     
  17. Rick Otto

    Rick Otto The Dude Abides

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    Foreknowledge is not just clairvoyance or experiential wisdom, either.

    Everything that is, is by God's determinate council.
    Omniscience & Omnipotence rule out chance.

    Isaiah 45:7 points out that God creates (created) evil.

    This doesn't mean God is evil. You can't judge an action without consideration of motive. God is good. His motive for creating evil is explained in Romans 9:19: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
    20: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
    21: Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
    22: What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
    23: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
     
  18. KJVisTruth

    KJVisTruth HisInstructionsAreOurs,Ou rObstructionsAreHis

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    You got it.:)
     
  19. WarriorAngel

    WarriorAngel I close my eyes and see you smile Supporter

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    There are two answers.

    God's Will that which HE chooses to be done, will be done.

    But ppl do not always do His Will.

    Basically there is not a cut and dried answer.

    You should have elaborated more. :wave:
     
  20. orthodoxy

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    God's will is not to violate man's will.

    1 Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

    Obviously the will of God is not always done because many are not thankful to God for the good much less the bad things in life.

    the unworthy

    kyril
     
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