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The Walk Per Day

Discussion in 'Daily Devotionals' started by WebersHome, May 10, 2017.

  1. WebersHome

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    Gal 5:16 . .Walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.

    Gal 5:25 . . If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.

    There's really no mystery to living/walking by the Spirit. It's just a matter of doing as we're told in compliance with the Spirit's instructions, i.e. Christ's commandments.

    Hello; and welcome to a grass-roots collection of close to 500 specific items-- beginning in the book of Acts and concluding in the book of Revelation --stipulating the Lord's rules of conduct for each and every Christian in the whole world regardless of their denominational affiliation.

    Some Christians regard any and all commandments as a throw-back to the covenant that Yhvh's people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. But let me assure them the commandments in this collection are not those of the first covenant, but those of the second; viz: Christ's law rather than Moses' law.

    1Cor 14:37 . . If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of The Lord.

    1Ths 4:1-2 . .We beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

    Buen Camino

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    1) Acts 15:19-20 . . Abstain from food tainted by idols, from promiscuity, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.

    The meat of a strangled animal is different than that of a butchered animal. Though a strangled animal may be brain dead, it's flesh will be viable for a bit because the blood in its veins still has usable oxygen in it. This is why the new rules for CPR recommend concentrating on chest compressions first while delaying blowing air into somebody's lungs till a little later.

    In essence what we're talking about here is eating living flesh versus ordinary raw flesh. Christians may eat all the raw, uncooked meat they want just so long as they are absolutely certain the meat is dead beyond recovery.

    Though this is one of Christ's wishes; it has been God's wishes ever since Noah came off the ark. (Gen 9:3-4)

    Promiscuity can be defined as sexual misconduct; e.g. adultery, incest, shacking up, one night stands, sleeping around, etc.

    2) Rom 6:11 . . Count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

    "dead to sin" doesn't mean the Lord's sheep don't sin (cf. 1John 1:8-10). It means they're no longer in grave peril of sin's ultimate consequences. (John 5:24, Rom 4:25, Rom 5:6-11, Rom 6:3-11, Rom 8:33, 2Cor 5:19)

    I've had lots of unbelievers protest that if it were true that the Lord's sheep are in no peril of sin's ultimate consequences; then they would have a license to steal. The answer to that is both YES and NO

    The big difference is that when the Lord's sheep sin, it's a family matter; but when outsiders sin; it's a criminal matter. While outsiders face justice for their sins, the family only faces discipline because their justice was satisfied at Calvary. (cf. Isa 53:1-12 and Rom 6:3-11)

    For example; when my youngest brother and I were kids; we pelted my dad's old Hudson Hornet with eggs and made a big mess of it. My dad not only blistered our bottoms but also made us wash it all off. But if somebody else's kids had pelted my dad's Hudson, he would have called the police. You see, for my brother and I, the egging was a family matter; but had an outsider egged my dad's car it would have been a criminal matter and something to be settled in court rather than in my dad's wood shed; if you know what I mean.

    3) Rom 6:12 . . Do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.

    Cain was given pretty much the same instructions. (Gen 4:7)

    4) Rom 6:13 . . Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness.

    5) Rom 12:1 . . Present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

    The above indicates that sacrifices don't have to be deceased in order to qualify as valid offerings. (cf. Gen 22:12, Jgs 11:30-40,1Sam 1:1-28)

    6) Rom 12:2 . . And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    I heard a story about some students in a seminary who prayed about an upcoming exam instead of cracking the books and burning the midnight oil. Apparently they were somehow under the impression that the information they needed for the exam would somehow drift up out of the duck feathers where God had it stored in their pillows and be miraculously absorbed by the gray cells in their brains-- and this while they were fast asleep.

    Long story short; they all got an F on their exams; and not because the professor despised their laziness; no, because they simply didn't know the answers. Moral of the story is: in order to "renew your mind" and to "prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God" one must take the initiative to knuckle down and learn the Lord's wishes; viz: study the Bible via either reading, sermons, Sunday school classes, seminars, lectures, and/or radio programs like Thru The Bible and Back To The Bible, et al. This stipulation is not optional by the way, no; it's one of the Lord's many commandments; and I'm pretty sure he expects it to be obeyed.

    7) Rom 12:3 . . Be honest in your estimate of yourselves, measuring your value by how much faith God has given you.

    Christians of little faith have little value; while Christians of great faith have great value; but should be careful not to let their great value go to their heads; if you know what I mean.

    8) Rom 12:6 . . If God has given you the ability to prophesy, speak out when you have faith that God is speaking through you.

    The koiné Greek word for "prophesy" in that verse is from propheteia (prof ay-ti'-ah) which encompasses predictions. Predictors were common in the early church; for example Agabus' predictions at Acts 11:27-28 and Acts 21:10-11. Hunches don't count as God speaking through you. You have to really know it. Don't ask me how to really know it because I don't have the gift.

    9) Rom 12:7a . . If your gift is that of serving others, serve them well.

    "serving well" implies serving conscientiously and whole-heartedly rather than half-baked and/or hit and miss.

    One of my brothers has been a construction foreman for decades and one of his perpetual complaints is that he never knows from one day to the next whether some of the men he hires on jobs will show up. In other words: they aren't reliable-- he can't count on them. What I'm saying is: if you're thinking about becoming helpful in some way, don't do it unless you're willing to commit to the long haul because people need to know that they can depend on you to stay the course.

    10) Rom 12:7b . . If you are a teacher, do a good job of teaching.

    I had a Sunday school teacher once who worked as a maintenance man in a public swimming facility. One Saturday he had to work very late repairing some equipment at the pool and had no time to prepare his lesson plan for Sunday morning so he just threw something together. It stunk; and my wife and I got nothing out of it. In contrast, I once knew a pastor who took all week long to prepare his Sunday morning sermons; rather than just Saturday night. Now there was a guy who knew what it means to "do a good job of teaching".

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    11) Rom 12:8a . . If your gift is to encourage others, do it!

    You know who really benefits from encouragement in a big way? Little kids. Thoughtless grown-ups can break a growing child's fragile spirit by criticizing them all the time and never once giving them an "atta boy" or a single vote of confidence. A fitting word spoken at just the right moment can really beef up somebody's resolve to meet life head on. If you're good at that sort of thing, then watch for opportunities among your fellow Christians to do so.


    NOTE: The kind of encouragement about which that passage speaks, is just as much a spiritual gift as tongues, the interpretation of tongues, miracles, teaching, healing, faith, evangelism, and prophecy etc.

    12) Rom 12:8b . . If you have money, share it generously.

    There are some people barely making ends meet who nevertheless make an effort to include charities in their budgets, while others loaded with dough are misers in that they only give what they have to and nothing more. The "extra mile" is foreign to their concept of what it means to be generous.

    13) Rom 12:8c . . If God has given you leadership ability, take the responsibility seriously.

    A natural aptitude for church management doesn't count. It has to be God-given; that is: a legitimate Spirit-endowed ability. (cf. Rom 12:3-8, 1Cor 12:4-11, 1Cor 12:27-30). There are far too many people sitting on church boards merely because they're a success in business. Well; if your church is a business; then maybe you should think about finding another one.

    14) Rom 12:8d . . If you have a gift for showing kindness to others, do it gladly.

    That would probably correspond to incidents like the one depicted in the parable of the man attacked by road agents in Luke 10:30-36. In that instance, a passerby had the skills and the wherewithal to provide care for a total stranger in need. Personally, I'm not much at first aid and/or emergency medical services. But what we're getting at here is that should you find yourself in circumstances where you can be of genuine, effective assistance; don't lend a hand grudging. It ought to make Christians happy to be of assistance instead of getting irritated and grumpy about an unexpected inconvenience.

    A solo Pacific Crest Trail hiker named Cheryl Strayed, in her book WILD, recounts an evening wherein she was very low on funds and having no luck locating a suitable place in the woods to set up her tent before it got really dark. Cheryl found her way into a fee campground and set up at the extreme end of the facility where she thought no one would mind; but later that night the caretakers came by and, in a not-so-friendly tone, insisted that she either pay the $12 fee or break camp and leave. The Christian thing to do would have been to pay the fee for her instead of forcing a woman to wander out into the pitch black forest all alone at night.

    15) Rom 12:9a . . Don't just pretend that you love others.

    Webster's defines "pretense" as fiction, make-believe, and/or simulation. Ironically, pretense is foundational to ordinary civility and common courtesy. But when it comes to love; Christians should never put on a front. In other words: don't lead someone on to believe you care for them when in reality you don't. That's not only dishonest; it's cruel.

    16) Rom 12:9b . . Hate what is wrong.

    Hating evil is second nature to God-fearing people.

    Ps 97:10 . .You who love Yhvh: hate evil!

    Job 1:1 . . In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil.

    Prv 8:13 . .The fear of The Lord is to hate evil. Pride and arrogance and the evil way, and the perverted mouth, I hate.

    Matt 5:6 . . Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness.

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  4. WebersHome

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    17) Rom 12:9c . . Stand on the side of the good.

    Christian CEOs on the boards of multi-national corporations have my sympathy. Good luck complying with item #17.

    I recently watched a very interesting documentary on NetFlix that analyzed corporations; and they found that corporations, as a personality, typically exhibit all five of the psychopathic behaviors listed below.

    • Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.

    • Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships.

    • Reckless disregard for the safety of others.

    • Deceit and dissembling; viz: repeated lying, suppressing information, stretching the truth, and conning others for profit.

    • Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors.

    One of corporate America's more shameful management practices is the exploitation of foreign poverty, cheap labor, defenseless employees, minimal safety requirements, and hardly any environmental regulations in order to keep costs down and the bottom lines of quarterly reports up. It's all about profits with corporations; while the human suffering exploited to obtain them is collateral damage, so to speak; and nowhere has that been more prevalent than the manufacture of textiles and garments.

    Another of corporations' rather annoying behaviors is their lack of patriotism. They have a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders which supersedes any wish they may have to pay their fair share of the tax burden imposed on their fellow citizens. Thus they contribute relatively little towards the Federal Government's ability to pay its bills in comparison to regular people.

    A popular corporate tax-saving dodge, which is perfectly legal, is the moving of their corporate headquarters offshore to countries where tax rates on profits are much lower than here in the USA; where they have a permanent haven just so long as they don't bring those profits into the country; which is really a shame because those profits could otherwise be invested here at home to create more jobs for Americans and thus strengthen the economy.

    18) Rom 12:10a . . Love each other with genuine affection

    Real affection is easy to imitate, but not so easy to duplicate. Going through the motions, is just not the same as feeling the feelings.

    19) Rom 12:10b . . Honor others over yourselves.

    Most alpha achievers would have trouble with that one. I mean. why be a winner if not to feel superior to everyone else and accumulate bragging rights and accolades? The alpha achiever's motto is: It's not enough to succeed: everyone else must fail.

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    20) Rom 12:11 . . Never be halfhearted in your work, but serve the Lord enthusiastically.

    Webster's defines 'halfhearted" as feeling or showing a lack of interest. The koinë Greek word for "work" is spoude (spoo-day') which refers to movement in regards to speed; viz: velocity. In other words; item #20 is talking about dragging one's feet rather than getting with the program and expediting whatever it is you're assigned to do.

    21) Rom 12:12a . . Be glad for all God is planning for you.

    Christians unsure of their afterlife destination cannot, in all honesty and a good conscience, comply with item #21.

    22) Rom 12:12b . . Be patient in trouble, and always be prayerful.

    Patience is something every so-called mature adult is supposed to have but relatively few seem able to produce. What we're talking about here is "composure" which Webster's defines as calmness: especially of mind, manner, or appearance.

    Composure is pretty easy to maintain when nothing is bothering us; but not so easy when we're upset, frightened, worried, nervous, angry, irritated, annoyed, over-worked, dead tired, under pressure, stressed, chafed, interrupted, ignored, cut off in traffic, in deep credit card debt, a sudden death in the family, behind in your mortgage, your car payments and/or your student loan; injured, life changing news like your job outsourced to China or you've got cancer, involved in a school shooting, and/or your spouse announces they've met someone and wants a divorce. People tend to come unglued at times like that.

    1Pet 4:12 . . Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you.

    A "painful trial" can be likened to a process to which assayers subject samples of gold to evaluate its worth as a precious metal. If somebody can maintain their composure under the conditions I listed above, I'd have to say that they are a high-value gold. As for the rest of us; we would no doubt benefit from a dose of the fruit of the Spirit; hence the enjoinder to "always be prayerful".

    Gal 5:22 . .The fruit of the Spirit is patience; et al.

    23) Rom 12:13a . . Share with God's people who are in need.

    "God's people" is a bit vague. I'm guessing it pertains to Jews. See Matt 25:31-46.

    24) Rom 12:13b . . Practice hospitality.

    Webster's defines hospitable as: (1) given to generous and cordial reception of guests, (2) promising or suggesting generous and cordial welcome, (3) offering a pleasant or sustaining environment.

    In other words; a hospitable person is civil, courteous, thoughtful, easy on one's nerves, helpful, approachable, accommodating, and relaxing to be with.

    25) Rom 12:14 . . Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

    The koiné Greek word for "persecute" is dioko (dee-o'-ko) which means to pursue; viz: to hound. In other words; a persecuting personality is one whose mission in life is to ruin somebody's day at every opportunity; and they are pretty good at finding ways to do it. Christians are under orders to remain calm with people like that, and continue to be hospitable too.

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    26) Rom 12:15 . .When others are happy, be happy with them. If they are sad, share their sorrow.

    When you're blue about something, the last thing you need is for somebody to come along and tell you: Don't be that way; snap out of it! Well; it's not too hard to figure out where their loyalties lie is it? If you know what a party pooper is, then you know what a funeral pooper is-- they try to brighten up a sad situation when what they really should do is bite their tongues and let people grieve through their loss.

    27) Rom 12:16a . . Live in harmony with each other.

    It isn't necessary to be in 100% agreement with others on everything in order to comply with that command. But it is necessary to make every effort to avoid quarrels. For some people, every disagreement is an act of war to be won at any cost. That's not harmony, that's hostility. It's far and away better for Christians to be diplomatic that to be defensive.

    2Cor 12:19-20 . . For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.

    28) Rom 12:16b . . Don't be elitist, but willing to associate with people below you.

    One morning the owner of a boatyard where I was employed just happened to be going east at the same time as me on a freeway in San Diego. I saw him coming up on the left in my side mirror. I and my VW beetle were in the middle lane and he and his Chevy pickup were in the fast lane. As the boatyard owner came up alongside me, he kept his head turned to the left as if he was intently looking at something alongside the highway as he went past.

    You know what was over there on the left side of the freeway? Nothing. It was a 30-foot embankment of bare earth; an impenetrable wall of China. He was deliberately averting his gaze so he wouldn't have to wave to me. And guess what? Mr. Boatyard was on the board of a large Wesleyan church in Spring Valley that he and I both attended on Sunday mornings.

    In another incident, I went to a Church singles' group meeting in a private home where everyone was seated on the floor chatting when I arrived. All the really cool singles had gravitated together and left this rather geeky fellow sitting all by himself with no one to talk to. Well; I wasn't all that cool myself so I sat with the geek and as we conversed, I began to realize that in spite of his appearance, he was actually a pretty bright guy; but he and I were marginalized because the others didn't want to be seen with us

    29) Rom 12:16c . . Don't be wise in your own conceit.

    Webster's defines "conceit" as excessive self-appreciation of one's own worth or virtue.

    Conceit is uncivil, untrainable, and intolerable. It truly believes nobody beneath its dignity could possibly have anything to tell that it doesn't already know, and if it doesn't already know, then that's because the information possessed by those beneath its dignity isn't worth knowing.

    Those kinds of people will interrupt you right in the middle of your sentence and begin talking about their own perspective as if your voice is nowhere to be heard in the whole room. You know why they do that? Because they sincerely believe that nothing you are in the midst of saying is nearly as important as what they have to say. In other words: you, and your thoughts, are both superfluous.

    Conceited folk are generally very picky about their influences too; in other words, even if somebody is a Spirit-gifted Bible teacher, but are neither published, accredited, or properly educated, then forget it. That Spirit-gifted somebody is eo ipso undeserving of conceit's intellectual attention right out of the box.

    Conceit is not only stuck on itself; but very critical of others too. I've seen it to happen time and again that when a Spirit-gifted Bible teacher comes across with a personality like Elijah's or John the Baptist's that conceit summarily brushes them off as "unloving" no matter even if they speak as the very voice of God. In other words; conceit disdains to be taught; rather, conceit seeks to be accommodated.

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  7. WebersHome

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    30) Rom 12:17a . . Never reciprocate evil with evil to anyone.

    I've participated on nearly thirty Christian internet forums beginning in 1997, and one of the things I've noticed is that too many people wearing the Christian label have forgotten all about turning the other cheek. Oh m' gosh you wouldn't believe how ugly, spiteful, and vindictive Christians can be when they put their minds to it!

    31) Rom 12:17b . . Respect what is right in the sight of all men.

    The koiné Greek word for "right" is a bit ambiguous. It can mean: honorable, decent, sensible, mature, conforming to social norms of decency and propriety, beautiful, virtuous, honest, having worth, fitting, and/or appropriate. Those are all good qualities and should be practiced not only inside church, but outside church too.

    32) Rom 12:18 . . If possible, so far as it in your power, be at peace with all men.

    Assertive, defensive, fault-finding, imperious, judgmental, confrontational, bossy, hard-nosed, implacable, moody, thin skinned, vindictive, spiteful people are not going to heaven. Why? Because heaven is a place of peace (Matt 5:9). Disagreeable people who fight at the drop of a hat simply don't fit in heaven and besides, not only would they be a fish out of water; but it wouldn't be fair to the others to let difficult people in to heaven where they would surely turn it into the same kind of hell to live in that they've made the earth.

    33) Rom 12:19 . . Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written : Vengeance is mine, I will repay; testifies the Lord.

    The focus is upon one's "own" revenge; in other words: if the matter can't be settled legally; let it go rather than take it upon yourself to be prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. Those who seek justice outside the justice system are no less criminals than the people they seek to punish.

    34) Rom 12:20 . . If your personal enemy is hungry, feed him, and if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.

    Way back when
    SURVIVOR was in its second or third season on television, two of the women fell out of sorts and one vowed that even if the other were lying in the street near death from thirst, she'd walk right past and not give her so much as a drop of water. Bad form. Christians have to remain civil and not permit detestable people to dictate the way they treat their fellow men. It is far better for the Lord's people to exemplify humanitarian principles rather than nurse a grudge.

    35) Rom 12:21 . . Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

    They say "fight fire with fire". Well, that might work in some circumstances; but Christians should never permit themselves to fight evil with evil. Two wrongs never make a right.

    I just have to wonder-- in a land that prides itself in the principle of the accused being assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law --why Osama Bin Laden wasn't captured alive and given a fair trial before the Obama administration executed him. I mean; after all; several of Germany's big name war criminals were given fair trials; and so was Saddam Hussein, wasn't he? Far from being "brought to justice" Mr. Bin Laden was assassinated lynch-mob style. Thus, America overcame evil with evil; which is a clear violation of the Lord's wishes as per Rom 12:21 and to think some Americans actually pride themselves in being a so-called Christian nation.

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    36) Rom 13:1-5 . . Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

    . . . For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

    According to that passage, non Christians have the God-given right to govern Christians by means of civil criminal justice systems. This has its roots clear on back to the days of Noah.

    Gen 9:4-6 . . And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man. Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

    Rom 13:1-5 is a fair warning to Christians that should they break the law; to expect neither favoritism nor immunity. So then, if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime. And especially if a Christian should commit a capital crime, to expect their head to roll just like any other capital criminal's head.

    God has given mankind the right to play God in matters pertaining to criminal justice; and any Christian who opposes mankind's right to play God, is playing the Devil. God forbid!

    Rom 13:1-5 covers petty crimes too like J-walking, illegal U-turns, feeding parking meters, drifting through stop signs without coming to a complete halt, exceeding the speed limit, unsafe lane changes, road rage, disturbing the peace, et al. Christians really ought to be the most law-abiding people on earth; but unfortunately, many are shamefully guilty of conduct unbecoming.

    37) Rom 13:6 . . Pay your taxes

    While it's true that tax dollars often get wasted on fraud, graft, pork, bail outs, ear marks, and such things; by and large taxes are essential if we're to expect services like schools, parks, national defense, law enforcement, fire protection, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, foster care, endowments, reparations, flood control, TANF, and the maintenance of infrastructure, etc.

    38) Rom 13:7 . . Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

    I don't particularly admire Barack Hussein Obama; but seeing as how God requires Christians to address people in his position appropriately; then were I to meet him, I would not address him as Barry, but as Mr. President.

    39) Rom 13:8 . . Owe no man anything.

    Some have construed item #39 to mean that it's a sin to have a mortgage, a car payment, and/or a credit card balance. However, the koiné Greek word for "owe" is opheilo (of-i'-lo) an ambiguous word with a number of meanings, one of which is to fail in duty; viz: fail to meet your obligations. In today's world; debt is pert near impossible to avoid; but debt is okay for Christians just so long as they pay their bills on time. Christ is neither pleased nor honored when his followers are known as deadbeats.

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    This guy has an entire thread to...himself...lol.

    Seems you are trapped trying to keep all the LAWS. Do you know Christ PERSONALLY?
     
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    The laws of the covenant that Yhvh's people agreed upon with God contain a large number of curses for non-compliance. (e.g. Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:1-69)

    The laws of the covenant that Christians agreed upon with God contain zero curses for non compliance.

    In other words: obedience to the laws of Judaism's covenant is mandatory, whereas obedience to the laws of Christianity's covenant is voluntary.

    The motivation for compliance with Judaism's laws is fear, whereas the motivation for compliance with Christianity's laws is friendship.

    John 14:15 . . If you love me, you will obey what I command.

    John 14:21 . .Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me.

    John 14:23 . . If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching

    John 14:24 . . He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

    John 15:14 . .You are my friends if you do what I command.

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    40) Rom 13:12 . . Put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.

    Among the first things that God created for the cosmos was light (Gen 1:3). He didn't have to create darkness because darkness as per Gen 1:2 was just simply the default condition in the absence of light.

    At that time, God made a distinct difference between light and darkness (Gen 1:4). I think it is very notable that God labeled the light "good" but He didn't label the darkness good.

    I believe Gen 1:4 set the stage; in other words: from that point on in the Bible darkness typically represents something harmful and/or distasteful; while light always represents something tasteful and/or beneficial. So then we could label the deeds of darkness as deeds unbecoming Christ's followers, and we could label the armor of light as deeds befitting his followers. In other words: deeds befitting Christ's followers are their first line of defense in a world gone mad with evil.

    41) Rom 13:13 . . Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and envy.

    In the beginning, God labeled the light "day" and the darkness He labeled "night" (Gen 1:5). He then proceeded to describe day as "good" but He didn't say that night is good, i.e. I think we can safely assume that night is bad. So then; things done in the day are good things, while things done in the night are, by default, bad things. Day and Night, and Darkness and Light, are interesting figures of speech and can be seen in use at quite a few locations in the Bible; for example:

    John 3:19-21 . .This is the judgment; that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.

    Envy can be a good dog or a bad dog, and when it's a bad dog, it's the combined meanness of a Pit Bull Terrier and a Rottweiler because envy fuels some very bitter rivalries. Wanting to be equal with others is one thing, but striving to be better than others is a horse of another color. Christians have got to be careful of that. This isn't optional by the way; no: it's required.

    What I find interesting about Christ's commandments is that his followers have to be told how to "properly conduct" themselves; viz: it's never assumed they can be trusted to instinctively and/or intuitively know how.

    42) Rom 13:14 . . .Clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ

    Clothing one's self with a personage was a colloquialism many years ago which would correspond in our day to "emulation" which Webster's defines as trying to be like someone or something you admire. They say that imitation is the highest flattery. Well; if you'd like to flatter the Lord; adopt his principles and put them into practice. In other words: become Christ's understudy. You can do no better for a role model.

    Q: How does one go about measuring up to Christ?

    A: Well, up to this point, I've listed 42 ways. In other words; complying with Christ's commandments is really the best and only practical way to go about it.

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    43) Rom 14:1 . . Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

    A strong faith consists of the elements of knowledge, confidence, assurance, and conviction. A weak faith can be defined as vacillating; viz: one that's not all that sure whether something is wrong for a Christian; or even that something is right; in other words, a weak faith lacks the elements of knowledge, confidence, assurance, and conviction.

    The koiné Greek word for "doubtful" is dialogismos (dee-al-og-is-mos') which means: discussion; viz: debate.

    The word for "disputations" is diakrisis (dee-ak'-ree-sis) which means: judicious estimation; viz: opinions.

    When somebody begins a statement with the words "in my opinion" and/or "well; I think" they are getting ready to give you their judicious estimation; and since opinions are often subjective, biased, and arbitrary, rather than objective, unbiased, and by-the-book; then opinions inevitably invite debate; which, in matters of spiritual significance is strictly forbidden within the context of the 14th chapter of Romans; because debatable matters are not matters of doctrine; but rather; matters of conscience.

    We're not talking about black and white doctrines and principles here. Those are not open to debate. We're talking about gray areas.

    "Thou shalt not commit adultery" is black and white; while issues like video games, music, fashions, foods, cosmetics, movies, self defense, gambling, swim suits, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, fasting, religious art, crucifixes, couture, and holy days of obligation are debatable. In regards to those areas; let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind rather than somebody else's mind.

    Those are things about which each has to decide for themselves according to the dictates of their own conscience; and God forbid they should impose their personal dictates upon others and thus become dictatorial because that's playing God and usurping the Lord's sovereign prerogative to make the rules for his own church.

    44) Rom 14:2-4 . . One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him.

    If you sincerely believe that fast food, GMO, high fructose corn syrup, non organic produce, processed foods, grain-fed beef, raw oysters, sushi, and/or anything fried in lard is sinful; well; more power to you; but God forbid you should condemn others who disagree because to my knowledge the Lord has issued no hard and fast rules regulating Christian nourishment other than those listed at Acts 15:19-20.

    So then; whether or not to eat grass-fed beef or grain-fed beef is your call; although in my judicious estimation; you run a much higher risk of contracting E.coli 0157-H7 by eating grain-fed beef. But the choice to run that risk is yours alone; not mine. The important point to note is that either way, God will accept one's diet just so long as they are convinced in their own mind it's not a sinful diet.

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    45) Rom 14:5 . . One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

    Common Christian holy days are the Lord's Day (Sunday), Solemnity of Mary the Mother of God, the Epiphany, Solemnity of Saint Joseph Husband of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Ascension Trinity Sunday, Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul, Good Friday, the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, All Saints, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ (Christmas), and the Sabbath. Some would probably include Easter and Ash Wednesday.

    If your denomination, or your church of choice, rules that days like the above are sacred, then for you they are. Whether God himself really and truly rules them as sacred is irrelevant. What matters is whether you are convinced He does.

    46) Rom 14:13a . .Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another.

    Within the context of the 14th of Romans, "passing judgment" pertains to condemning others for refusal to accept and/or comply with your gray-area beliefs and practices.

    47) Rom 14:13b . . Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.

    The koiné Greek word translated "stumbling block" means a stub. For example: one year I cut down a troublesome bush in my front yard and left a bit of a stump sticking up out of the ground that later damaged my lawn mower when I accidentally ran over it while cutting the grass; which had grown tall enough to conceal the stump. In that respect, stumbling blocks are hazards not easily detected.

    Within the context of the 14th of Romans, I would equate stumbling blocks to the clever sophistry that silver-tongued orators employ to persuade people to do things contrary to their convictions and their conscience. In other words; there are people out there with the skills to make a lie sound like the God's truth. (cf. Eph 4:11-14)

    48) Rom 14:14-16 . . I know and am perfectly sure on the authority of the Lord Jesus that no food, in and of itself, is wrong to eat. But if someone believes it is wrong, then for that person it is wrong. And if another Christian is distressed by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you eat it. Don't let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. Then you will not be condemned for doing something you know is alright.

    You may believe that there is nothing wrong with eating non-Kosher foods; but your dinner companion might feel very strongly about it. Well; sure, you can get by with eating non-Kosher foods; but Rom 14:14-16 is saying don't. In other words; it is Christ's wishes that you restrain yourself from eating non-Kosher foods in front of your companion out of respect for their feelings about it.

    I would go so far as to say that rule applies to alcohol. If your dinner companion is a recovering alcoholic, then for God's sake don't order drinks at your table. It's not only thoughtless and offensive; but you might inadvertently succeed in bumping your friend off the wagon.

    49) Rom 14:19 . . Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.

    The koiné Greek word for "edification" is oikodome (oy-kod-om-ay') which is a word related to the building trades; and in this instance would be related to structural improvements like a new wing, or a bedroom, or another floor; and in many instances adds square footage to an already-existing structure and/or improves its appearance, its value, and it's utility. Edification then, builds up instead of tearing down.

    Webster's defines "peace" as a state in which there is no war or fighting; viz: harmony and mutual concord.

    2Cor 12:19-20 . . For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.

    50) Rom 14:20-21 . . Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

    The critters that God lists in Israel's covenanted law as unsuitable for food aren't intrinsically unsuitable. They're only unsuitable for Israel because that's how God wants it for His people. But outside the covenant; and for everybody else: everything is suitable for food; all flora and all fauna.

    Gen 9:3 . . Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

    51) Rom 15:1-2 . . We may know that certain things make no difference, but we cannot just go ahead and do them to please ourselves. We must be considerate of the doubts and fears of those who believe certain things are wrong.

    God forbid that any of Christ's followers should talk their fellow Christians into doing something that bothers their conscience because then both they and the talker will be in the wrong even if he's right.

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    52) Rom 14:22a . . So whatever you personally believe in debatable areas keep between yourself and God.

    53) Rom 14:22b-23 . . Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

    In other words, it's possible to be wrong even when you're right because it's a sin to forge ahead when one's conscience is not sure it's okay to do so.

    I once knew a Christian who felt guilty just setting foot inside a Block Buster video store. Was he silly for feeling that way? Not in his mind; and it's your own personal moral compass that counts in gray areas. Some Christians can't permit themselves to dine in a restaurant that serves alcohol; while others see nothing wrong with it. If those two kinds of Christians should perchance dine out together, it's the more sensitive conscience that determines where to eat.

    In other words; it makes good spiritual sense to avoid insisting upon your freedoms and rights sometimes in order to prevent dragging your fellow Christians into something that makes them feel guilty and/or uncomfortable.

    54) Rom 15:1-2 . . We may know that certain things make no difference, but we cannot just go ahead and do them to please ourselves. We must be considerate of the doubts and fears of those who believe certain things are wrong.

    I think this would be a good place to interject a note pertaining to the statement below:

    John 13:35 . . By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.

    For many of us who grew up in dysfunctional families, broken homes, foster systems and/or orphanages et al; the concept of love doesn't resonate in our thinking; viz: it just goes in one ear and right out the other because we quite literally have no points of reference in our minds to aid comprehending what the Lord means by love; and this is what makes his commandments interspersed throughout the epistles so valuable-- many of them not only show us how to recognize love when we encounter it; but also how to exemplify it in our own lives so that those of us who were deprived of love growing up are not left to figure it out on our own.

    55) Rom 15:7 . . Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.

    That's a bit tricky but I think it just means believers should acknowledge one another as Christians, and treat one another as Christians, though they may differ in opinion about what constitutes a true Christian.

    For example: it's not unusual to hear a Christian pontificate that real Christians would never watch R-rated movies, gamble, wear a speedo or a string bikini on the beach, use cosmetics, smoke marijuana, expose cleavage or wear tight fitting yoga pants in public, stop for a beer on the way home from work, have a glass of wine before bedtime, listen to RAP music, ditch church and Sunday school for years at a time, or go in a bar or a nightclub where there's topless female dancers up on a stage twining themselves around a pole while leering men stuff money in the hems of their skimpy little costumes.

    Too many Christians have the opinion that unless others believe and behave the very same way they believe and behave, then those others are not Christians. Well; the easiest way to settle this is to follow Webster's definition that a Christian is simply someone who professes a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. That's it: no more, no less, and no qualifiers. They don't even have to practice the Lord's teachings; they only have to profess to believe in them.

    An internet forum I was on in the past made it even easier. In order to qualify as a Christian on that forum; one only had to believe they were a Christian; viz: they didn't have to prove they were a Christian; no, they only had to be convinced in their own minds that they were a Christian. If we all followed that rule it would put a stop to a lot of unnecessary quarreling and bad feelings.

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    56) Rom 15:27 . . For if the Gentiles have shared in the Israelite's spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Israelites to share with them their material blessings.

    Within the context of Rom 15:25-27, the Israelites to whom Paul refers are not those who believe and practice Judaism; but those who believe and practice Christianity. It is unbecoming for Christians to support religions that undermine their Master.

    57) Rom 16:17-18 . . I urge you, brothers, beware of those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naïve people.

    One of Christ's sneakiest opponents isn't a person; rather, it's a persuasive teaching method called sophistry; which Webster's defines as a reason or an argument that sounds correct but is actually false; viz: subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation. Sophistry is typically rational and sensible; but the thing to keep in mind is that faith believes what's revealed to it rather than only what makes sense to it.

    According to Eph 4:11-14 the very reason that Christ endows some of his followers to speak for him is so that the rest of his followers may have access to true premises upon which to build their faith.

    It ain't what you know that gets you into trouble.
    It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

    (Mark Twain)

    58) 1Cor 1:10 . . I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought.

    I think it would be interesting to analyze the incident that prompted Paul to issue that order.

    1Cor 1:11-12 . . My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this; one of you says "I follow Paul" and another says "I follow Apollos" and another says "I follow Cephas" and still another says "I follow Christ".

    The "divisions" that Paul addressed were apparently related to the sins of rivalry and elitism-- some even going so far as to allege that their baptism was superior to the "second-rate" baptisms experienced by others.

    Modern examples of that kind of elitism today might go like this: one might brag "I was saved at a Louis Palau crusade" while, not to be outdone, another might retort "That's nothing; I was saved at a Billy Graham crusade" or "My pastor got his degree at Dallas Theological Seminary" while another may counter by saying "So? My pastor got his doctorate at Yale Divinity School" or "I listen to Thru The Bible with J.Vernon McGee every day on the radio" while another may retort by saying "He's okay for some people; but Back To The Bible with Woodrow Kroll is where it's really at." or "I use nothing but the King James version of the Bible" while another may scoff with "People serious about Bible study use a Scofield Reference Bible in the NIV." or "I can read and write Greek" while another might retort: "You should try learning Hebrew sometime. Now there's a challenge." And then there's the hermeneutics know-it-alls who insist that the truth of a passage can only be seen in context and no other way

    Those kinds of petty rivalries generate unnecessary bad feelings amongst Christians, and should be avoided.

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    59) 1Cor 1:26-31 . . For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to naught things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: that, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

    When people aren't boasting about themselves; they're often boasting about the accomplishments of their heroes; e.g. athletes, movie stars, celebrities, scientists, financial moguls, politicians, news anchors, military personnel, journalists, authors, and others like that. Well; though those people's accomplishments are certainly admirable and fully deserve recognition; bottom line is: they don't impress God one whit because their accomplishments, and yours too, are nothing in comparison to His. In point of fact, their accomplishments, and yours too, are less than nothing in comparison to God's.

    One of God's accomplishments that causes me to greatly admire Him is the scheme He came up with to clear the books of my sins in a way that satisfies justice without causing me harm and/or compromising His integrity.

    God's intuitive sense of justice imposes some serious limitations upon both me and Him; and one of those limitations is that His intuitive sense of justice does not permit sweeping sins under the rug. No; God's intuitive sense of justice demands that sins be brought to justice. Ergo: were God to sweep sins under the rug, He would violate the dictates of His own conscience; which, according to the principles we only just recently looked at in the 14th of Romans, is a pretty bad sin itself.

    Another of God's many accomplishments that causes me to greatly admire Him is the scheme He came up with to knock down a wall separating Him and me that is far more impenetrable than that of either Berlin's or China's; which reads like this:

    Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change [the color of] his skin; or the leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.

    In other words: it is impossible for a man to break human nature's tendency to do evil. Just as people born with black skin are stuck with black skin, and just as leopards born with spotted fur are stuck with spotted fur; so a man accustomed to doing evil is stuck with continuing to do evil.

    God solved that problem by somehow transferring me from the human race patterned after Adam the sinful man, to a human race patterned after Christ the sinless man. In other words: though I cannot see the results now, there is a day coming when I will never, ever again commit a sin of any kind in either thought, word, or deed because in him, there is no sin (1John 3:5). You gotta admit; that's quite an accomplishment. Nobody can top that one.

    The next commandment I wish to discuss is embedded in the following scripture. It's indicated by underlined text.

    60) 1Cor 3:5-15 . .What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe. As the Lord has assigned to each his task: I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building. According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But let each man be careful how he builds upon it.

    . . . For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man builds upon the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it, because it is to be revealed with fire; and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work. If any man's work which he has built upon it remains, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be spared, yet so as through fire.

    Sorry for that big gob of scripture, but in order to explain what is meant by the underlined text it's essential that I retain it's context.

    In context, "each man" refers to God's fellow workers as opposed to God's field and/or God's building, i.e. John Q and Jane Doe pew warmer.

    The works in question are those pertaining specifically to Christians like Paul and Apollos; viz: God's fellow workers involved in ministerial capacities e.g. apostles, missionaries, evangelists, pastors, deacons, Sunday school teachers, church administrators, home Bible study leaders, et al. Though the average rank and file pew warmer's works will some day be evaluated too; they are not the ones whose works will be evaluated as per 1Cor 3:5-15.

    It's extremely important to note that only the Christian worker's works are tested with fire; not the worker himself. Compare this to the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 where the dead's works are not tested; but rather, their works are introduced as evidence in the prosecution's case against them. The Christian worker's works aren't evaluated as evidence against them, but as potential credit to justify giving them a performance award.

    Another extremely important thing to note is that the Christian worker's substandard works are burned up rather than burned off; as if the worker has to spend some time in a purgatory or something like that.

    The phrase "he himself will be spared, but only as through fire" is rendered by some translators as "like someone escaping through a wall of flames" and/or "as one escaping through the flames". It's a depiction of people who waken inside a burning home with barely enough time to get out; taking nothing with them but whatever they wore to bed. Their home is destroyed, and all their valuables and all their mementoes; but at least the occupants themselves are safe, and suffer no harm from the fire.

    "let each man be careful how he builds upon it" indicates that Christian workers need to keep in mind that what they produce will be thoroughly scrutinized; and projects that don't measure up will be summarily culled; resulting of course in reduced compensation for their service. How sad it would be to see workers like Mother Teresa who, after devoting decades of their lives to a Christian service capacity, only to be stripped of everything and come away with nothing to show for it; not even so much as a Boy Scout merit badge.


    NOTE: According to 1Cor 4:5 the motives of Christian workers will be evaluated too in order to determine whether they were in it for the Lord, or just in it for themselves.

    FYI: The koiné Greek words for "purify" and "purge" are nowhere to be found in 1Cor 3:5-15; and a note in the current official Catholic Bible-- the 2011 New American Bible --says: "The text of 1Cor 3:15 has sometimes been used to support the notion of a purgatory, though it does not envisage this."

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    61) 1Cor 3:18 . . If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a fool so that he may become wise.

    Webster's defines a fool as a person lacking in judgment or prudence and/or someone lacking common sense.

    Well, as most everyone knows; someone need not have a low IQ to qualify as a fool. It isn't uncommon for otherwise bright people with above average intelligence to think, act, and speak like they've taken leave of their senses.

    How do you go about convincing somebody with an IQ of 110 that they're foolish? Well; of course they're not really half-witted; they're smart in their own sphere, but alas; challenged in things that have value to God.

    Take for example people like Nancy Pelosi, Hilary Clinton, Barbara Walters, Oprah Winfrey, Donald Trump, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, Jimmy Fallon, Paul McCartney, et al. Those people are geniuses at what they're good at; but when it comes to things that mean something to God: they're incompetent dunces because they have focused all their intellectual energy upon things that have value to themselves; and zero intellectual energy contemplating things that have value to God.

    1Cor 3:20 . .The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise; that they are worthless.

    Maybe the thoughts of the wise are worth something to the world; but not to God. They bore Him to tears.

    62) 1Cor 3:21-23 . . So don't take pride in following a particular leader. Everything belongs to you-- Paul and Apollos and Peter --the whole world and life and death; the present and the future. Everything belongs to you, and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.

    I've noticed that avid sports fans are afflicted with chronic identity syndromes. When their favorite team wins; they say "we" won; as if they were on the team playing the game instead of up in the bleachers or on the couch at home watching the action on TV. Christians who worship the ground that their favorite pastors and/or Sunday school teachers walk on are just as avid. They want to be identified with those kinds of church luminaries because it makes them look really smart and elite; when in reality it just makes them look star-crossed.

    63) 1Cor 4:1 . . So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ, and as those entrusted with the mysteries of God.

    Christians are so prone to hero worship. They idolize the pastors of their churches; and celebrities of the Christian world like Mother Teresa and Billy Graham are practically sacred cows-- when they should recognize that those celebrities are only human rather than divine. (cf. 1Cor 3:5-15)

    64) 1Cor 4:5 . . Judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till The Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and expose the motives of men's hearts.

    The "judging" with respect to 1Cor 4:5 regards human nature's propensity to idolize religious celebrities without having all the facts. For example; we now know from Mother Teresa's private letters-- made public by Father Brian Kolodiejchuk's book "Mother Teresa / Come Be My Light" --that Ms. Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu was a nun with so little personal belief in God as to be an agnostic; and yet for decades everyone the world over thought she was the cat's meow and the bee's knees: a veritable poster child of piety in thought, word, and deed. It turns out Teresa was a remarkable actor. Her public image bore no resemblance whatsoever to the secret life of her inner being.

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    65) 1Cor 5:1-5 . . It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father's wife. And you have become arrogant, and have not mourned instead, in order that the one who had done this deed might be removed from your midst.

    . . . For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present. In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

    Delivering someone to Satan for the destruction of the flesh just simply means to ostracize them-- no associating with them whatsoever, and especially no spiritual support, not even prayers. This may seem an extreme measure but that man's conduct was extremely detrimental; it was dragging the whole church down.

    66) 1Cor 5:6b-8 . . Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough? Clean out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

    . . . I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters; for then you would have to go out of the world. But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he should be an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler-- not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

    Paul's comparison to leavening indicates that the shameful conduct of just one member of the congregation is the whole congregation's shame. This isn't a proprietary Christian principle. It first shows up in the 7th chapter of Joshua. The insubordination of one insignificant Jewish man-- just one --caused God to stop assisting Joshua's army in battle. As a result, 36 men were needlessly killed in action; and ultimately capital punishment was inflicted upon not only the insubordinate man himself, but also his sons and his daughters. What did God say? Achan has sinned? No: Israel has sinned. (Josh 7:11)

    This is one of the best arguments against church expansion. The bigger a congregation gets, the more difficult it is to keep an eye on everyone's conduct.

    Q: What about saved and born-again LGBT? Do they have to be judged and ostracized too?

    A: There was a time in the not-so-distant past when there would have been no need to ask that question. But the question is very pertinent nowadays what with so many State, local, and Federal laws practically giving LGBT the status of protected species. It's got to the point when accusing them of sexual sin is considered hate speech.

    Before ostracizing LGBT they have to be sexually active; just as that man in the Corinthian church was sexually active with his stepmother..

    And please; let's not level all the heavy guns at LGBT because the list includes swindling and greed too; which were responsible for the Wall Street crash back in 2008 that led to thousands of people everywhere losing their jobs, their retirements, and their homes. LGBT are of no consequence at all in comparison to the power of greed and swindling to ruin people's lives, collapse entire economies, and create fear, panic, and havoc on a titanic scale.

    67) 1Cor 5:6a . .Your boasting is not good.

    The Corinthian church was liberal in its attitudes about sex. That's no surprise considering the city's culture in that day and age. Then, as now, liberals tend to think of themselves as sophisticated and progressive. and vastly superior to the stodgy, old-fashioned ways of conservatives.

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    68) 1Cor 6:1-6 . . If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

    . . .Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother goes to law against another-and this in front of unbelievers!

    Apparently some of the Christians in the church at Corinth let the Sermon On The Mount go in one ear and out the other.

    Matt 5:39-40 . . But I say unto you: That ye resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

    Luke 12:57-59 . .Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled to him on the way, or he may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.

    The Lord began his teaching in Luke with the words "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right?" In other words; if someone threatens to take you to court over a tort matter, and you know darn good and well he's in the right; don't force him to go to law. Instead, admit to your wrong and settle out of court. According to the Lord, it’s unrighteous to tie up the courts when you know your own self that you are the one who's in the wrong. There's just simply no righteous reason why Christian defendants and plaintiffs can't be their own judge and jury in tort matters.

    1Cor 6:7-8 . . Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

    The koiné Greek word for "defraud" is apostereo (ap-os-ter-eh'-o) which is an ambiguous word with more than one meaning, and more than one application. The meaning that seems appropriate in this instance is "deprive".

    It works like this: Were I to trip and fall because of a crack in the walk leading up to the front door of the home of one of my kin; I wouldn't haul them into court over it because we're related; viz: any injury I might incur by tripping and falling because of a crack in their walk would be a family matter rather than a legal matter; and they have a right to be treated by me as family rather than as enemies in a lawsuit because we're related. Were I to sue them for tripping and falling because of a crack in their walk; I would be depriving them of the love that kin have a right to expect from one another.

    Well; Christians are supposed to be brethren; in the highest possible sense of the word.

    1John 3:14-16 . .We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. . . We know love by this, that He laid down His life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

    I think it's safe to say that if somebody is comfortable taking a fellow Christian to court; then they certainly are not prepared to lay down their life for the brethren.

    It's really sad to see relatives suing each other in court; but it happens all the time. When the world does it; well, that's to be expected; but when Christians sue each other; that's dysfunctional.

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    69) 1Cor 6:18 . . Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commits fornication sins against his own body.

    The koiné Greek word for "fornication" is porneia (por-ni'-ah) which doesn't mean pornography; it means harlotry; a term that Webster's defines as sexual profligacy. Porneia would include things like prostitution, adultery, promiscuity, date sex, free love, shacking up, one-night stands, swingers, wife swapping, and that sort of thing.

    The command is not to walk away from fornication; but to run away from it as if your very life depends upon putting distance between you and it. The same Greek word is used at Matt 2:13 where an angel instructed Joseph to flee into Egypt in order to save his little boy's life.

    Fleeing is different than shunning. I think what we're talking about here are the times when a golden opportunity comes along to mess around with somebody who is absolutely irresistible. Some people would call that getting lucky; but in God's estimation, it's getting stupid if you play along and see what happens.

    Young Christian couples often want to know how far they can go with their dates before they're into forbidden territory. Well, we all instinctively know the upper limits, but since the lower limits aren't chipped in stone then I would have to say let your own conscience be your guide in accordance with the Lord's principles stipulated in the 14th chapter of Romans regulating gray areas. The key principles are:

    "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." (Rom 14:5)

    "Happy is he that feels no guilt in that thing which he allows." (Rom 14:22)

    He that doubts is guilty if he eats, because he eats not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin." (Rom 14:23)

    However, as an old senior guy of 73 who's been around the block a time or two: I must forewarn youngsters that the human conscience is trainable. What I mean is, if you manage to suppress your first-time pangs of guilt, the second time will be easier; and each succeeding suppression of your conscience gets easier and easier till the day comes when you feel no guilt at all. In other words: you will eventually succeed in cauterizing your conscience. (cf. 1Tim 4:1-2)

    The phrase "sins against his own body" is sort of the same wording as at 1Cor 11:27 where it's said "whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord."

    Some Christians construe 1Cor 11:27 as murder. Well if so, then sinning against one's own body would be suicide. But actually, what we're talking about here is gross contempt and disrespect. In other words; Christian fornicators are treating their body like a chamber pot instead of a holy vessel; and all the while dragging God's Spirit into situations that He finds extremely unbecoming.

    1Cor 6:19 . . Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?

    Eph 4:30 . . Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

    They're also dragging Christ into shame and disgrace too.

    1Cor 6:14-16 . . Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with an harlot? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with an harlot is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."

    It's sad but true: a number of Christians have spent so little time in the book of Genesis that they haven't a clue what 1Cor 6:14-16 is talking about.

    1Cor 15:34 . . Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

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