The units of Specified Complexity

[juvenissun]

Clearly that unit is inappropriate. If someone devises a measurement, e.g. specified complexity, the burden is on them to explain how it is done, in what units it is measured, and what those units mean. Without meaningful units it is not a measure of anything.

It has been explained long time ago. Even I, who don't care about ID much, know the explanation. Yet the question in the OP showed up a few days ago. What does that say?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It has been explained long time ago. Even I, who don't care about ID much, know the explanation. Yet the question in the OP showed up a few days ago. What does that say?

It says it's odd that you, or someone else who saw this explanation, didn't help answer the OP's question.

If you know the answer, why not help, even if it's just a link to the explanation?

 

[juvenissun]

It says it's odd that you, or someone else who saw this explanation, didn't help answer the OP's question.

If you know the answer, why not help, even if it's just a link to the explanation?

I explained it in #44 and #46. I learned that in #12.
So, if the specific complexity is a mouse trap, then the unit is: pieces (of mouse).

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I explained it in #44 and #46. I learned that in #12.
So, if the specific complexity is a mouse trap, then the unit is: pieces (of mouse).

If those numbers refer to posts in this thread, none of them are, or even approach, an answer to the OP's question.

 

[DogmaHunter]

You point out the complex system and identify its main function, then you can quantify it with a unit.

What unit would that be and what is the method for doing that?
Use an example, to make it extra clear.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Why do you want to know the unit if you do not want to do measurement?

Because cdesign proponentsists keep talking about "specified complexity" as if they can objectively quantify it.

@Larnievc 's question is basically a challenge to ID supporters to demonstrate that.

 

[juvenissun]

Because cdesign proponentsists keep talking about "specified complexity" as if they can objectively quantify it.

@Larnievc 's question is basically a challenge to ID supporters to demonstrate that.

I don't see anybody is trying to do that.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I don't see anybody is trying to do that.

trying to do what?

Meet the challenge? I'll agree with that. cdesign proponentsists are all bark and no bite.

 

[Larniavc]

I don't see anybody is trying to do that.

That’s exactly what I’m trying to do: get anyone to quantify specified complexity.

 

[Larniavc]

Nobody else asked the question in the OP but you. If no answer could be fit into the question, then what is the meaning of that illogical question at the beginning?

It means that specified complexity cannot be quantified.

If it cannot be quantified then there is no possible way of defining irreducibly complexity. Consequently we have no reliable method based on complexity to conclude design.

I put that as simply as I could.

 

[juvenissun]

It means that specified complexity cannot be quantified.

That is because the question is not completed. It is your fault.
If the function of specified complexity was described, then it CAN be quantified.

 

[Larniavc]

That is because the question is not completed. It is your fault.
If the function of specified complexity was described, then it CAN be quantified.

If you can’t answer the question posed do feel free to go away.

 

[juvenissun]

If you can’t answer the question posed do feel free to go away.

Don't follow me.

 

[bhsmte]

LOL

 

[2PhiloVoid]

What unit would that be and what is the method for doing that?
Use an example, to make it extra clear.

I already posted a link that answers this, but no one seems to have bothered to look at the details. I suppose I'm expected to do all the work? And I'm not even a proponent of I.D., but rather of BioLogos.